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mircea_popescu: money was meaningless throughout the socialist empire, sure.
mircea_popescu: no but that was explicit, paycheck withholding.
asciilifeform: it just gets rolled into tax
mircea_popescu: ftr : communist romania had "bachelor tax".
asciilifeform: because the other thing about being a slave is that it doesn't come with any guarantee of slavin' by yesterday's rules
mircea_popescu: and "marriage" means "living toghether" already anyway, which can mean anything the fuck anyone pleases anyway, so...
asciilifeform: and for all i know this is already in the works, in anglo world
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found it especially entertaining how reddit folk (at least used to) believe the 'if only male birth control pill' thing would make any difference (if such thing existed, 'paternity' would simply get redefined, french style, to accomodate cuckoldry) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's ~no way for slave to avoid slavetax. that's the point of having a) slave and b) slavetax.
BingoBoingo: "A 34-year-old woman seduces a 15-year-old boy and becomes pregnant. She gives birth to a daughter and thereafter applies for Aid to Families with Dependent Children. Is the child's father obligated to pay child support even though he is a victim of statutory rape? (Pen. Code, ? 261.5, subd. (d).) We conclude he is liable for child support."
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra | http://www.ofnumbers.com/2015/02/06/what-is-the-blockchain-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << What is the blockchain hard fork “missile crisis?” | Great Wall of ... | https://medium.com/@bramcohen/bitcoin-s-ironic-crisis-32226a85e39f << Bitcoin's Ironic Crisis — Medium
BingoBoingo: Without calling GAW jizz moppers in October 2014 who would think to take Qntra seriously on...
BingoBoingo: Sure. The greatest accomplishment of early Qntra was doing lots while making it look like we weren't doing anything at all. Everything from the site's theme to the tone of that first indictment against GAW was done with this in mind.
mircea_popescu: is that good for qnt-ra ?
BingoBoingo: Much booze was had in these discussions of actual internet marketing and SEO.
BingoBoingo: Working the longlines and seeing what bites.
BingoBoingo: No, not trolling in that sense. Trolling as in fishing, as in doing the actual work of SEO.
mircea_popescu: it's only trolling if you're not backed by the righteous word of teh lord.
BingoBoingo: Cazalla's trolling was Qntra's original and most important SEO campaign
mircea_popescu: he hounded that shit like a champ
mircea_popescu: this is true yeah
BingoBoingo: And GAW was the story that cazalla used to hammer Qntra into being a thing that made our asperzoring competitors feel shame
BingoBoingo: Because 2014 was the year of our lord cazalla
BingoBoingo: Updated with gloating dialed up to 11 http://qntra.net/2016/06/garza-stuart-fraser-of-cantor-fitzgerald-and-gaw-face-class-action-suit-in-us-court/
mircea_popescu: iirc it was mentioned in logs mr fraser won't be able to disentangle himself last year
asciilifeform: (we had this thread re jet fighters)
mircea_popescu: in the sense a luxury car is "100k" or a cellphone "1500". yeah, right, read the maintenance contracts. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: dutch roll ? 3-4 times ? god bless embraer.
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/4msmh7/gps_interference_notam_for_southwest_us/d3y63li << lulz re earlier thread
mircea_popescu: you want waifs go to the will-o-wisp parade.
mircea_popescu: in fairness marine creatures are supposed to be portly.
shinohai: Supposedly this is supposed to be "mermaid parade" looks more "whale pride parade" https://sli.mg/WgVNER
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/VbL
BingoBoingo: These are the mysteries of the Los Angeles desert
BingoBoingo: Or mebbe weather is just right for cigarette butts to light the brush today?
BingoBoingo: Mebbe some ISIS kid in California decided if he went firebug he could get a higher score than if he went an hero?
Bugpowder: Hmm… Now 4 fires started in the last 3 hours in LA… Arson?
Bugpowder: Wind blowing it up mountains not down tho so OK for now…
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder this is bad for fiatcoin.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, romanian redditards found out that mp was also born there, think that "hey, wtf, i don;'t think it can be him. if it were he would be starting a revolution"
Bugpowder: Not sure about streaming to to wherever you are, but the HD video is pretty amazing.
mircea_popescu: oh wait this is in the logs. darn.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lulziest thing is the VERY expensive "business jet" (embraer phenom) that was made by javascript engineers (won't work at all without gps signal).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, they "didn't know" which is how romania went from an agrarian economy in 1935 to the world's petroengineering superpwoer in 1965.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485822 << the missile problem. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and the hosts were somehow 'not to know this'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i read it, the anglo crews on ~100% of the gear at the time doubled as saboteurs.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485818 << and maiden planned to hold thighs tightly closed in case of ravishment. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: phf does BSDbsdm too!!!
mircea_popescu: the false etymology to roman lat vir is particularly endearing.
mircea_popescu: very different (in the sense of being opposite) to pragmatism as a current in anglosaxon thought. which is more like, "keep all doors and windows shut and only open something once you're sure there's nothing there".
mircea_popescu: well, it seems to me to be a very apt summary of the type of pragmatism prevalent here. a sort of "keep horizon maximally open" flavour of pragmatism
phf: right, i mean i'm being dense as far as how that maps to the mini rant
mircea_popescu: ie, how to split real estate budget.
mircea_popescu: phf "a house enough to sit in and land as far as your eye can see"
phf: mircea_popescu: hmm, i'm not groking that "casa ..." thing
mircea_popescu: yeah, discussion may well continue, but it does altogether not seem likely there's going to be a "chosen respirator"
asciilifeform: witness mircea_popescu's reaction to gentoo, for instance
phf: i honestly though thestringpuller was just being tongue-in-cheek :o
asciilifeform: but fwiw i am against a canonical life support effort for crud that is long past expiration date.
trinque will not fall back to abacus until tmsr-fpga exists
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:55 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: in ru prison, this position, once detected, gets you assigned to pederasty immediately.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485814 << because the russians a) don't understand how the world works and b) are antijwzemitic. ☝︎
asciilifeform: recall the specificity-of-diddling threads.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:49 phf: Framedragger: despite the rhetoric people here are extremely pragmatic. but when you think about these things there's no reason to allow sloppy thinking. the question is "how much of a dick up your ass is too much dick", and the healthy answer is "none at all". llvm is good technology (it gives you same kind of layering that a decent common lisp compiler does, but for languages that are not used to that kind of richnes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485802 << "casa quantu stai e tirrinu quantu viri". it's a thing. ☝︎
trinque: asciilifeform: does ppc have the mysterymeat cores?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try and find one to burn!11
asciilifeform: and the number of rack servers you can lease without them is ~0.
asciilifeform: likewise the intel and amd boobytrap cores dun go away when we close eyes.
asciilifeform: unfortunately that isn't remotely the end of it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. i just meant the vidcard gnarl could maybe be excised in a politically defensible manner. historically it was ~60 to 70% of all the mess.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:49 asciilifeform: i'm personally riding two dozen untanks.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485800 << that's unthinkable! ☝︎
asciilifeform: (e.g., which NIC? and what's to guarantee that it will be available)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:42 asciilifeform: for so long as 'you can't buy this video board any moar' is a thing, at ALL, there neither is nor can be such a thing as sane driver set.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485787 << well, at least in theory this problem could be resolved by saying "we only do servers" at least at first. ☝︎
asciilifeform: does it matter to the stonecutters?
asciilifeform: whether it is kim jong up, to build statue of himself out of them, or apple - dun matter.
asciilifeform: for so long as ~somebody~ buys those 100,000 - you can make the next batch.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, this is not terribly related. "whether it's a collie or a terrier it still bit me"
asciilifeform: but the shit tower doesn't need the drones to have 'free choice', in order to work
mircea_popescu: so the drones "make the decision" to "buy" one with "their" "money" aka corp scrip on loan from the corp.
mircea_popescu: take modems. who buys them ? telcos. take say smartphones. who buys them ? corporations. literally, not just because they "issue" the drones one, but because they decide which is the "in" one to have.
asciilifeform: and anything and everything else where you have to sell 10,000+ pieces to break even.
mircea_popescu: i have doubts, as an anthropologist i mean, that this was EVER actually the case. it seems altogether plausible that the ~idea~ of turdmarket driving things was perceived as "likely to occur" in general and perhaps circumstantially occuring in some spots, but the trends are separating not joining
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems altogether improbable that as of today the turdmarket is the driver of anything.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:35 Framedragger: these abstract rebuttals always confuse me
asciilifeform: for so long as mass turdmarket is ~the~ driver of manufacture, there will be only the equivalent of 'winmodems' to choose from iron-wise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ocean WILL dry out.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:34 asciilifeform: Framedragger: freebsd fell to rot long ago
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485744 << this is an argument contra de maintainers, not necessarily contra de item. but still. ☝︎
asciilifeform: this is like waiting for ocean to dry out.
asciilifeform: you need something to select FROM.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we have the power to standardize the iron, maybe, through the process of selection.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485741 << BingoBoingo keeps the bsd flame alive, and others maybe (mod6 ?) but... it's really a murky point yet. ☝︎
asciilifeform: you get two options, standardizing the iron, or abstracting over the babelade
asciilifeform: the interesting bit re dos is that it was felled precisely by the same hardware tower of babel which gave us a multi-MB linux turdkernel
mircea_popescu: if it is linux, it probably is more like debian sarge or gentoo whatever from 2003 than anything visible in the wild. fuck, it probably should be more like ibm-dos really.
mircea_popescu: the path to bitcoinfs intersects a tmsr-os/loper-os/whatever-we-end-up-calling-it-os, just...