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ozbot: Labcoin outed as a scam : BitcoinStocks
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1ncdf1/labcoin_outed_as_a_scam/
kakobrekla: o hey mp i used contents of your blogpost to populate bash a little, thats because im such a leeching prick
joecool: ie. use a proxy™
dexX7: mircea_popescu: how do you map your blogread-credits to a user?
Namworld: I already pitched him a capped bankroll such that it could be slowly lowered so as people leave, no new investment can come in.
Apocalyptic: what's the point of having a computationally expensive signature scheme ?
Diablo-D3: he refuses to answer a simple question
Diablo-D3: gmaxwell is on a roll
Diablo-D3: just find a new insurance company
nubbins`: so there's a legit chance that if she says "listen, this keeps happening because we don't take CCs", someone will listen
nubbins`: it's a small insurance company
pankkake: in France a guy wrote a cheque on toilet paper
dexX7: http://dcm6srpdb0rbc.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Guz8r.png https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/73003_157276070976549_1882617_n.jpg would you say they are the same?
nubbins`: no doubt this came about because some asshole tried to buy a car with pennies
nubbins`: so i couldn't pay for a case of beer with a couple of those $20 coins
nubbins`: and apparently if the coin has a face value greater than $10, the other party can refuse to accept more than one coin
nubbins`: "(2.1) In the case of coins of a denomination greater than ten dollars, a payment referred to in subsection (1) may consist of not more than one coin, and the payment is a legal tender for no more than the value of a single coin of that denomination."
ozbot: Lessons Learned From the BDT Fiasco - Coding In My Sleep - A Bitcoin Blog
Namworld: With a serious vehicle for instituational investors to put money in Bitcoins.
dexX7: so ... a former glbse scammer is befriended with those who run labcoin?
dexX7: http://btckan.com/price wtf BTC100 has allegedly a trading volume of 107941.02 BTC within the last 24 hours (btctalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304235.0)
dexX7: less than a week
dexX7: oh only a few days
deizel: dexX7: i threw together a transcript, http://pastebin.com/6tSK3DGJ
thestringpuller: I think a bitcoin bank in detroit would be perfect, the feds wouldn't care
Kleeck__: He said no, in a round-about way. "There are too many other parties involved, but if we push back our ship date we'll compensate with more hashing power per late ship"
Kleeck__: Someone asked if they'd be willing to place a bitbet guarentee on their mining ship date. :)
nubbins`: anyway i have tenants moving in tomorrow, gotta clean up a bit
truffles: not a big deal for us, some of us wont make it that far i guess
Diablo-D3: a 1 oz US eagle is like $25 face value
nubbins`: seems like a terrible way to scam money
Diablo-D3: since silver is such a soft metal
nubbins`: have you ever seen a hand-poured coin?
Diablo-D3: in canada its probably not a legal requirement
nubbins`: well, "must" is a funny word
nubbins`: a private citizen would be crazy to accept one of these coins as legal tender
Diablo-D3: to a coin collector? nope
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: at a local grocer? yes
nubbins`: you're trying to tell me you can hand-pour silver into a 3d printed mould
Diablo-D3: Im already on a government watch list and they're reading what Im writing anyhow
nubbins`: free money machine. buy a 3d printer
Diablo-D3: I dont own a 3D printer
nubbins`: free money machine. buy a plane ticket
nubbins`: essentially, the mint is saying "hey, trade your shitty paper money for sweet coins with a tiny bit of silver"
Diablo-D3: melt down existing silver, pour it into a 3D printed mold of a $100 coin
nubbins`: they'd keep them, or sell them to coin collectors at a profit, or spend them at the grocery store
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: you can from a coin collector whos selling them for weight
Diablo-D3: Ive never seen a coin where the face value isnt a tiny fraction of the actual value
Diablo-D3: you made a profit
Namworld: It definitly should be. You can't put a fixed fiat value on a precious metal coin.
Diablo-D3: oz of precious metal IS the face value, its a unit of currency
nubbins`: usually with bullion coins, nobody gives a fuck about the face value because it's more valuable as bullion
Namworld: They only make a bunch of models each year and make a few 10000s of each coin
Diablo-D3: because I'd totally show up with a ton
pigeons: they used to would make you a $1 coin
Diablo-D3: and asked them to make me a $100 coin
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: but now, millionares are a dime a dozen
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: if I build a time machine, shovel a million dollars into it, go back in time to the day the Fed was opened
pigeons: what is the face value of a silver maple leaf?
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: a unit of currency is supposed to be a stable representation of purchasing power
nubbins`: give me a situation where $1USD != $1USD
pankkake: so this coin is interesting only for a canadian anyway
Namworld: That's what's odd about canadian mint coins. You could have a 100 face value coin with 20 dollars worth of silver or a 5 dollar face value coin with 1000 dollars worth of gold in it.
truffles: find a mine?
nubbins`: pankkake: they might have to call a manager over
nubbins`: or walk into a bank and deposit it to your account
Diablo-D3: Namworld: if a $100 gets ripped up, its easy to replace with a brand new bill
nubbins`: walk into a store and hand it to the cashier
Diablo-D3: Namworld: its a representational currency
nubbins`: but i can walk into a store and purchase $20 worth of goods with it
Diablo-D3: now, if it was a SILVER quarter, yes, it'd be nonsensical to write 25 cents on it
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: is not a precious metal
Diablo-D3: that'd be like writing $1USD (90 CDN cents) on a dollar bill
nubbins`: so, say, a US quarter
Diablo-D3: for anything but oz to be inscribed on a coin or bar is nonsensical
Diablo-D3: 1 oz silver or gold IS a denomination
Diablo-D3: although a bitcoin denominated one would be
nubbins`: find me a coin with a face value equal to its silver content
nubbins`: the 1oz silver rounds have a face value of $5
pankkake: oh, so there's a face value that is actually higher than the silver value?
nubbins`: it's a poor price for the amount of silver
nubbins`: i have a few of these too: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/20-for-20-fine-silver-coin-iceberg-and-whale-2013-prod1690016?o_action=crossSell
nubbins`: not to split hairs, but "later" obv is a valid command
gribble: Error: "later" is not a valid command.
pigeons: is there a new url for mpex or still coming soon?
Namworld: That's a lot of shares.
Namworld: No, just visiting family. Caught a flu, didn't feel like going on the computer afterward.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i would say prepare for a freeze in finance. winter's coming.
Namworld: ugh, so many requests to cash out BTC-BOND. Anyone wants to get them or should I start liquidating a bit of stuff?
mircea_popescu: basically after the stunningly cold ownage putin delivered in the ny times, everyone wants to get a finger in the honey jar located in obama's recently decerebrated skull.
[\]: further, it doesn't give a timezone
[\]: there's a difference between A trade and ALL trades on a given day
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's a weak bet, i wouldn't risk too much dust on it.
mircea_popescu: i am guessing nobody actually got a device ? or ?
mod6: i just need it to interact, get a response and display. once that's done. code cleanup + testing on my actual device instead of the emu.
mod6: i'll take a deeper look this coming week.
mircea_popescu: time to get a shittier job paying nothing at all for a TON of work.
mircea_popescu: now that you got out of a shitty job paying not enough for a lot of work
mod6: maybe gnupg needs a patch where this is translated to C and DSA/ElGamal are removed