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phf: well,
too late precisely because obligations
jurov: asciilifeform: wiring
the all
the rest of C code
to shiva would have
to be redone if replacing with some other cheme, no?
phf: they did
transform
themselves into sun, ivory machines and macivory boards specifically
mircea_popescu: better managed symbolics could have done much better
than it ended up doing.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 21:04 phf: asciilifeform: not at all 100% usg,
that's why
there was
the west coast symbolics media lab, also government didn't stop buying,
the contracts were bringing revenue well into
the endof90s (i mean still do, but now it's life support peanuts)
mircea_popescu: phf real estate is
the
traditional siren song
that sinks a certain
type of empire builder head.
mircea_popescu: anyway, usage suggestion : fill whiskey glass with good raisins, add rum
to
the
top, leave for an hour.
then
take
the raisins for apple pie, drink
the remainder while chatting on irc.
mircea_popescu: so
the actually very competent ron havana club anejo 7yo has been reviewed by
the producer, who decided it has flavours of vanilla, chocolate, cocoa, dried fruits and "spices".
phf: BingoBoingo: it's one of
those
the wire style areas
phf: baltimore st actually stays rough pretty much all
the way downtown (which is club area), but it's ok
to walk after dark around E/W switch
phf: north of patterson park is likely
to be exactly
that cheap because you definitely don't want
to go
there
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well part scam sometimes because derps will want "back property
tax"
shinohai: But I liked
the
temple of doom. I could get behind religions like
that.
phf: they had a different spelling of it (i vaguely suspect on account of indiana jones movie), "kala, divine mother
temple" it
took me a while
to get it
phf: i drove past a mother kali
temple somewhere in laurel, md yesterday
shinohai: No but I see
the benefits of having rpc commands use it, as I would love
to see
those commands separated from daemon
shinohai: No, shiva
the
trb addition. >.>
phf: asciilifeform: you brought
this on yourself :D
phf: fwiw we're saying same
thing, but a paper doesn't need
to reveal some major secrets
to be worthwhile, ~this~ particular paper
takes a
tired and ideologically aligned "it's
them eggheads and
their lisp
that did it"
☟︎ phf: asciilifeform: not at all 100% usg,
that's why
there was
the west coast symbolics media lab, also government didn't stop buying,
the contracts were bringing revenue well into
the endof90s (i mean still do, but now it's life support peanuts)
☟︎ phf: to bubbling debt, etc. not saying
that either of us could do it in a few sentences, but
that's what i would expect from proper paper on
the subject. real estate is not even mentioned in
the above hack job
phf: well,
that's an opinion. a proper exploration of
this subject would answer questions like what was revenue sources, what were
the expenses, and
then go backwards from
there, figuring out where and how
those were compromised or failed
to correct. smbx burned
through something like 10mil 80s cash in 2 years. and
they burned
through
them by being locked into real estate,
that lost value post crash. so can explore how
the internal culture contributed
mircea_popescu: because
the people of
the 50s "wanted
their kids
to live a better life"
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 20:29 asciilifeform: from phf's link, commentz: '...it's nice
that run down neighborhoods get a face lift, and I love craft beer and good food and coffee as much as
the next guy (er, gal)-but what happened
to
the factories and
the people
that used
to work in
them?
Their lives were largely destroyed by "free
trade" and deindustrialization. We were once a producer society, and we were an economically and culturally healthier countr
a111: Logged on 2016-01-17 02:25 asciilifeform: right now best we have was 'symbolics,
the failure of heterogeneous engineering' (by some chick?)
phf: the whole Robocop, japanese are
taking over american industry and economy
time
phf: asciilifeform: last industries closed in fishtown in 88 or so, or right around
the financial market crash
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 18:32 mircea_popescu: (note
the importance of
the gay army in
taking land from savages -
today as 3000 years ago)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 18:17 phf: you get a balmore workshop not because it's a conan
thing
to do, but because you're insane and need
to paint astral vaginas whether or not
there's market for it, and you can afford
to pay $90/mo (sometimes late) for your apartment and $100/mo (mostly late) for your studio
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 18:16 phf: once landlords or developers are involved
the area has long been considered "interesting" by suburban
types and "done" by
the gentrification avant guard
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 17:43 mircea_popescu: ironically, you'd be in a dark cone of immunity because
the derps can't quite argue
that YOU are responsible by putting kids in harm's way, because
they can't say black people are
the harm.
shinohai: asciilifeform is such a wonderfully easy person
to make snore. I'll bet he never needs Ambien.
mircea_popescu takes some solace in
the notion
that his sad personal history is not his alone.
phf: out 5 years ago. now i can't go
there without getting
the anger shakes, it's a fucking millenial central. i got into a fight at johnny brenda's (mentioned in
the article) a year ago, and everybody backed down, which made me even madder. fuck
that place
mircea_popescu: (note
the importance of
the gay army in
taking land from savages -
today as 3000 years ago)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: one of
the better known example being 1950s greenwich village
phf: the insane borderline chick
that was my radar for
these
things wanted
to move
to williamsburg in 2002 or so cause
that's where here friends were, by 2005
they had awesome parties
there, by 2008 everybody knew
they had awesome parties
there, by 2012
the rent started
to climb, by 2014 yuppies moving in, 2015 it's a joke
that everyone's in on
phf: yeah,
the non space eventually actualizes into a named
thing, and it can be "hipsters" like what happened
to brooklyn or "gays" like what happened
to dupont circle
phf: you get a balmore workshop not because it's a conan
thing
to do, but because you're insane and need
to paint astral vaginas whether or not
there's market for it, and you can afford
to pay $90/mo (sometimes late) for your apartment and $100/mo (mostly late) for your studio
☟︎☟︎ phf: once landlords or developers are involved
the area has long been considered "interesting" by suburban
types and "done" by
the gentrification avant guard
☟︎ phf: so i've lived on
the gentrification line before and it's never "white kids",
they move in when after
the whole
thing is named "gentrification" and by
then
there's already a whole foods in
the works. gentrification is brought about by utter misfit john waters crowd, and
they prime
the area for couple of years by
throwing parties and making
things happen, large portion of
them is gay and otherwise insane.
mircea_popescu: well, slumlord phf buy
the place for
them,
then charges
them 100 a month for a dildo
to sit on
thestringpuller: that's why
they move back home with mommy and daddy rent free
thestringpuller: oh. i don't even know if
those white kids could even AFFORD
to live in
the hood.
mircea_popescu: nah, not
to gentrify.
they're not gentry. just,
to scumiffy in a different direction.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: uh. white kids who move
to
the hood
tend
to "gentrify" it...