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thestringpuller: Aha. "peace" is the part I didn't understand. "the prequisite" is a treaty, not a war proclamation.
mircea_popescu: necessarily, in order for such an agreement to be had, "everyone" must deploy "the prerequisite".
mircea_popescu: item B is a discussion of peace, ie, what's the absolute minimal required basis for an agreement.
mircea_popescu: item A is a discussion of what at the time was a possible outcome, something of the kind of "if we don't fortify these walls and enemy army comes over, we're fucked". this has been muchly degraded meanwhile, principally by "well, every march lord on their path has harried the fuck out of them, and so not much of an army left".
mircea_popescu: these two are not specifically related, they're separate items.
mircea_popescu: o noes, guyse, why is eth dropping ? i thought they fixed it!
mircea_popescu: you're confusing things. everyone but us deploys a fork.
thestringpuller: I don't see a good scenario where TRB could deploy a fork i.e. "the prequisite".
a111: Logged on 2016-03-05 15:15 mircea_popescu: i suppose IF the july many-fork time comes and trb has nothing to offer then it might as well close.
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422535 << this thread. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: what're you on about thestringpuller ?
asciilifeform: anything other than unconditional capitulation to trb, == prb.
thestringpuller: worst case* yay for doing 5mn things at once
thestringpuller: i imagine though best case scenario, power rangers takes mod6's patches and merges it into prb
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:55 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what specifically did you have in mind ?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492068 << No specifics just a solution to push "The Prequisite" through. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and obviously enough, jewish groups trying to boycott german goods in the 1930s us is tghe exact equivalent of obscure rapper dude saying things about trump to an audience of obscure wanna-be rapper, wanna-be gay, wanna-be mit etc dudes.
mircea_popescu: from the two kids in schoolyard ("ce ma, te crezi smecher ???") to the empire falling apart or uk/argentina going to war notwithstanding the disaster it is for both, crisis of representativity -> conflict.
mircea_popescu: and, in classical theory, crisis of representativity is always resolved through open warfare.
mircea_popescu: crisis of representativity, this is it. when people are so confused about what they stand for and whom they stand before, they end up achieving counter-intentional results.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure this'll lose trump some votes in the 12% black + 4% lgbtdskfhkejrhdfg community, and gain him some in the 78% white and pissed group.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo check it out, the top hit is about how he wore a don't trump america jacket.
thestringpuller: one day Bieber will run off with your wife, but then again I guess that's the point you were making with shitty American girls.
mircea_popescu: (where revolutionary means what it in fact means - what the earth does around the sun is a revolution)
mircea_popescu: ahahahah check it out, black community came full circle! from usher to usher! one century of revolutionary progress.
BingoBoingo: Usher's a sort of Tyrone who sings
mircea_popescu: no, as in the 11 or 95 yo that lets people in cinema hall
mircea_popescu: now not only you don't have to put up with her, but it's POOR YOU!!11
mircea_popescu: what, there's no bullying so nobody's gonna fuck your shit up for being a loser and admitting it.
mircea_popescu: sit around, write bad poetry while torturing a guitar, do a lot of pot, be all you know, "sad" an' whatnot.
mircea_popescu: oh. but wait, this is good, because victim ticket.
thestringpuller: The only cure for Chronic Bitch Dependency is learning how to control the bitch and make her behave- hit the bitch if she doesn't do what you say until you achieved desired results.
thestringpuller: A disease that leaves a person addicted and dependent to a bitch. If that bitch decides to leave him/her, that person becomes an emotional train wreck and does nothing but lay around and mope. In worst cases, that said person would think he/she is in an R&B music video- something worse than self-mutilation.
mircea_popescu: lol ok ok! so alchie takes a bad fall while drunk, gets huge bruise on forehead.
mircea_popescu: (meanwhile back at the party house, A : http://67.media.tumblr.com/d73cd8b9c93c23df097d4183fe3463a7/tumblr_mu0mciNBEN1qg7xwvo2_400.gif B : http://66.media.tumblr.com/a7ba4153b4f7dd56c8c6272f7074819b/tumblr_mu0mciNBEN1qg7xwvo3_400.gif )
mircea_popescu: this reminds me of the joke with the alchie. you know it ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You forget today's American girl happiy makes a sandwich, but can't hold itself together enough to make it to the next room with out eating the sandwich (repeat x5 times)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw, thorough walk of my nodes' traffic suggested 95%+ prb (until i put in malleus)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yea, i'm sure they do, until "real guys" say "bitch, get in there and make sandwiches" at which point "real guys are too hard and redditards are too soft and i'ma spend five hours on the phone with my "friend" ie exactly equivalent part."
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:21 mats: as i understand it, the heterogeneity of clients in the wild naturally prefers the status quo
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:14 thestringpuller: mats: well from a financial perspective, not a political perspective. at the very least bribe miners to vote one way or the other...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492032 << the problem with this approach is that bribing is for losers. i for instance never bribed anyone, THEY BRIBED ME! because what the fuck is this, i'm going to pay derpy mayor/judge/whatever ? how about he buys his wife from me each year for the love of fuck! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492031 << there is this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: take any girl, stick her in the "modern democracy" box, she becomes fat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and it's not even fucking inborn, it's TRAINED! whip "lazy" girl that got to 20 and never achieved anything, she becomes in a year or two as self-driven and capable as you'd like it.
asciilifeform: where is this temptation
thestringpuller: trinque: no. most of my female friends prefer "actual guys" you know the ones who don't live at home in their mom's basement jerking off to girls on reddit all day.
asciilifeform: ^ i utterly fail to grasp
mircea_popescu: the temptation to vegetate is great. absent a driver, plants will plant.
mircea_popescu: and the shit they netflix isn't even fit for in-flight entertainment, admittedly a low bar.
thestringpuller: exactly. but unattractive in the way of "get the fuck away from me I wouldn't fuck you if you were the last man on earth"
mircea_popescu: you should see the local herps. "i like staying home and netflix".
trinque: his female friends must suck then.
mircea_popescu: trinque no, they're saying "i got all the food i could possibly need and this clicker thing. wut ?"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller has little to do with redditor per se, they find everything creepy for the reason and in the way pig finds everything too tall.
thestringpuller: everytime I hang out wiht my female friends and ask them about guys, its usually how creepy they are.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:39 mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence.
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492039 << interestingly. most millennial girls find guys creepy. cuz honestly, what sane female would be attracted to a redditor? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in short : salvation can not come from the mass of people. the mass of people is here for one thing only, and that is to supply holocaust fuel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point being, idiots are idiots, and if their favourite idiocy is denied in bitcoin, they reddit desperately until they find a doge/ripple/ether replacement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this exists, obv. as much as a backup chain store is "dark node" after all.
asciilifeform: they HAD the option
asciilifeform: but this could be same as your example above
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not certain that anyone PRESENTLY has the real option to 'be varied in hardware'
mircea_popescu: oh, "the state attacks the family" no dude. the state moves in a vacuum you made.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:39 mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence.
asciilifeform: i.e. plugged in solely to each other via ssh tunnels etc
mircea_popescu: they have the option to spurn bullshit. they don't, they seek bullshit.
asciilifeform: the other interesting spice in the mix is that some unknown number of nodez are 'dark'
mircea_popescu: so : they have the option to be varied in hardware. not only they don't take it : they AMPLY eschew it.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the existential, fundamental, first and foremost threat to bitcoin is emerging to be, the essentially centralizing nature of the modern human. slave's born to live in empire, so if there's a lot of slaves, there'll be an empire. once nero died it wasn't a case of "ah fucking finally, now we can go back to republic". no, it was "WE MUST HAS EMPEROR! EVEN GALBA!"
asciilifeform: that wouldn't create chorus of 'all these 5,000 nominally distinct nodes down for 20 minutes'
mircea_popescu: that sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: but, factually, there COULD be other reasons behind it. such as you know, hosts offer centos 7 prestamped on dedicated boxes, and so therefore, everyone runs centos 7
mircea_popescu: it didn't look terribly good. for bitcoin.
asciilifeform: but not hard to guess what it looked like.
asciilifeform: care to share output ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 12:49 a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 11:31 thestringpuller: https://forum.bitcoin.com/pools/a-bitcoin-com-mining-pool-t8999.html << why did our pool never get off the ground?
mircea_popescu: the fact remains it's trivial to run gluster/galera on 5000 boxes and have what appears 5000 independent nodes that neverthelss have all the solidity of a puppet install.
mircea_popescu: after the shocking revelations earlier this year, that really many things which seemed actually hosted properly (ie, own box etc) and on this basis assumed independent were really THE SAME ONE ITEM, i think even the 50 figure is generous. ☟︎
asciilifeform: for all i know, mine are the only working ones presently
mircea_popescu: best thing you can have about a large UNSPECIFIED construct is a guess.
asciilifeform: (there is ~no mechanical way to count)
asciilifeform: R2 "yeah, like less than 50." << it bothers me that i actually have NO IDEA how many
mircea_popescu: well ? sad but tru!
mircea_popescu: what is and what is not ; what can or can not be done ; how things should be done etc experimentally benefits little from importing reasonable_expectations.h
mircea_popescu: 96." | L4 : "there's no rsa collisions in the wild" ; R4 : "if you don't count the 300 or so phuctor found" and on and on and on it goes in this vein. at this point i do not expect any "common sense" held truth about any network to be any closer to reality than what miss america thinks on the subject.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what i'm more and more discovering is that the legends about the internet and the facts about the network (not just the internet, network in general) are very much at odds. consider a few examples : L1 : "many eyes means better code" ; R1 : "many eyes means bikeshed effect" | L2 : "Bitcoin has many nodes" ; R2 "yeah, like less than 50." | L3 : "there's many weak consumer grade boxes out there" ; R3 : "maybe in 19 ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:41 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no patience to read, but by now, "at MIT" is damning.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492041 << linked mainly for the last line: 'settled out of court' ☝︎
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: if you call punching someone in the dick when they get out of control a bribe...sure
Framedragger: http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/ suggests there's more of fridge on the internet than there should be
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:14 thestringpuller: mats: well from a financial perspective, not a political perspective. at the very least bribe miners to vote one way or the other...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492032 << let's also bribe the cockroaches in the kitchen to 'vote' to leave ? ☝︎
Framedragger: i would like to scan the whole /0 0:65535 range some time though, i'm sure there'd be quite a few ssh servers lurking behind strange ports, and quite a lot of them could be old embedded gadgets. just speculation tho
mircea_popescu: so then your q has pretty good answers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most units of recent vintage have the port closed
mircea_popescu: i suppose isps filter incoming for the domestic space (not out of any safety concern, just, to not sell a useful service, which is anathema in usian style economy)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, i just tried to ssh to a few known home routers. no answer. try it yourself.
asciilifeform: is a financial crash (which was inevitable in any case; see “Ponzi scheme” above) then that is blamed on their bad choices at the polls.'