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asciilifeform: i'd prefer something that isn't a turd.
asciilifeform: a 'from scratch' OS on top of the world's 2nd biggest steaming turd is a bad thing, regardless of how close it can be brought to an approximation of working, through brute sweat.
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as an 'impedance mismatch.'
mod6: one of these guys has a hardon for implemeting xrp with it directly instead of btc, can't shake him.
asciilifeform: that building on c/unix is a mistake
mod6: Each Lamport public key can only be used to sign one single message, which means many keys have to be published if many messages are to be signed. But a hash tree can be used on those public keys, publishing the top hash of the hash tree instead. This increases the size of the resulting signature, since parts of the hash tree have to be included in the signature, but it makes it possible to publish a single hash that then can be used to verify an
asciilifeform: that is, players agree on what constitutes a 'go' signal, and arrive at a set of split secrets that can be added up to said signal, verifiably - without a dealer.
mod6: does this matter in the case where the dealer is a shithead?
asciilifeform: that is, for all pubkeys, for each - can prove that it is a share. and that no others exist.
asciilifeform: exercise for the (very) alert reader: come up with a scheme where you can prove the actual number of distinct shareholders, given their pubkeys (allowed to assume they aren't all sockpuppets)
asciilifeform: if the shares are distinguishable from noise, they contain information which pertains to the key. (obvious.) hence said information must be a 'one way' ticket.
asciilifeform: mod6: that's true of any signature algo that uses a nonce
mod6: ahh, as far as leaking key part: Obviously should you reuse the same key to sign a different message you’ll be leaking key bits and eventually your key can be brokenii. << noted.
asciilifeform: normally in a secret-splitter, the individual shares are indistinguishable from noise.
asciilifeform: there's probably a thousand ways to do it.
mod6: read it for the first time about a week ago. now, re-reading after some thought.
skinnkavaj: But tbh sounds stupid to buy into LTC when it's already high pankkake, that sounds like a really stupid plan.
skinnkavaj: Daytrading is a fool's game pankkake.
kakobrekla: pankkake hes just a trolliar
pankkake: there was a lot of hype about solidcoin IIRC. actually, it put me off bitcoin at that time. where is it now?
skinnkavaj: pankkake: There was like 5-6 altcoins launched before LTC, but none of them were really good. One was premined, one was scrypt but not premined, LTC was the one that won. Now I am only waiting for the third coin, but that will take a lot of time to be decided.
pankkake: open source is already a protection against developers being corrupt. you don't have to have a fork of every open source software to keep the developers in check. that would be insane
benkay: all wrapped in a lovely strawman
skinnkavaj: It's not like LTC is going away anytime soon. LTC is here to stay as long as BTC is here to stay. Then we might have another competing coin that take over in the future, but that will take a lot of time even if its better than BTC/LTC.
skinnkavaj: The secret is not that I am launching a litecoin service
skinnkavaj: pankkake: Next friday I will launch a Litecoin service which will be kept secrete until it's live
benkay: always got my ears out for a new hustle
pankkake: I mean it looks like there isn't even a web wallet
skinnkavaj: Sent a mail to bitcoinity.org
pankkake: I have plenty of time to buy back if there ever is a reason. and here you're just bragging about daily little changes
benkay: -ass has a points/karma thing now?
kakobrekla: thats a thought mp.
kakobrekla: bash just been flushed, i nuked the current points stats cause some idiot decided to write a bot to fuck with that, so i changed the system a bit and well, truncated teh table.
KRS1: what did you program nubbins? IT can be hard to get back into if you are out for a while ☟︎
nubbins`: and i haven't even had to skip a meal yet
nubbins`: i walked away from a stable, high-paying programmer/analyst job this past february to print full-time
_mjoiii: Pretty sure I just had a flashback with that second one.
_mjoiii: If you watch him on mute it looks like a guy describing pooping in a bucket
nubbins`: ^ this guy is almost completely, perfectly fucked in the head, but i had a moment of epiphany while watching this interview
benkay: put a big enough engine on a brick and *presto* i guess you have an orbital insertion vehicle too
mircea_popescu: that's a dildo.
mircea_popescu: benkay okay, but something has to be something or not be something at some point. otherwise we can't have a conversation at all, outside of ∀ = ∀
benkay: everything exists on a spectrum.
benkay: can't have a reasonable conversation in black and white, mp.
mircea_popescu: or is it a product manufactured for dutch people cca 1700 ? or italians cca 1600 ?
benkay: my point is that rap isn't art. it's a product manufactured for americans.
mircea_popescu: to a degree even people like andy warhol seem little babies.
mircea_popescu: lol. ok, the point here is that while it'd be hard to argue dali wasn't an artist, it's well established he was a capitalist whore
mircea_popescu: but you said artists/capitalists! was is strictly a rap phenomena ?
benkay: i've yet to meet the artist who's a better capitalist than the jiggaman.
KRS1: he has had a few really good hits other than that...meh.
Vp7771: wasn't there supposed to be an announcement of a big customer besides mpesa?
nubbins`: because it's happened countless times, and nobody ever gave a fuck
ozbot: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com
nubbins`: i do tend to sweat a lot during dick surgery
nubbins`: i wonder at what point leaving earth becomes a bad thing?
nubbins`: <kakobrekla> and everyone wants to hear your opinion <skinnkavaj> I get asked a lot.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, I can't wait till skinnkavaj skins his dick and wears it like a sock for LTC
nubbins`: it is always a possibility that i will head down to my basement, grab a claw hammer, and smash my dick with it
nubbins`: failing to realize that "it is always a possibility" is just a polite way of saying no
nubbins`: <skinnkavaj> (15:18:15) (cryptocyprus) It is always a possibility, litecoin is the only alt I have ever bought and sold, if/when Gox integrates litecoin then there will be more liquidity to make it a more suitable hedge
kakobrekla: skinnkavaj i havent seen a single person asking you for anything
skinnkavaj: I get asked a lot.
skinnkavaj: kakobrekla: Please no one gives a fuck what you think anymore
skinnkavaj: So LTC/USD up 30% in a week
pankkake: why would he ask a thief?
skinnkavaj: Neobee is probably the biggest thing to happen to Bitcoin in a while
skinnkavaj: (15:18:15) (cryptocyprus) It is always a possibility, litecoin is the only alt I have ever bought and sold, if/when Gox integrates litecoin then there will be more liquidity to make it a more suitable hedge
skinnkavaj: (15:15:57) (skinnkavaj) Will you use Litecoin as a hedge against a falling Bitcoin in the future?
kakobrekla: There is a myth about how you should never use soap on cast iron. Details on that below. The reality is that you can use soap on cast iron, but it is better if you didn't.
nubbins`: i first got into cast iron after learning that the guy who owns javaranch.com is a huge fan: http://www.richsoil.com/cast-iron.jsp
nubbins`: cleanup is as easy as scrubbing some coarse salt around the pan with a paper towel
ozbot: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate with a bank. This is HUGE
kakobrekla: i did try it out for a day
b0n1: is there a chart?
kakobrekla: well, you gotta realize that he has a billion penny investors
b0n1: kakobrekla, what do you mean? only because he is a trusted member?
nubbins`: so hahs browns are browned potatoes that you'd add to a hash
nubbins`: well, that type smells a lot better
nubbins`: there's a certain vulnerability involved in getting someone else to wipe your ass
kakobrekla: a noble men like me dont poo
nubbins`: this sentence starts with a lower-case letter.
pankkake: well they have to find a way to prevent you from signing bitcoin transactions
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zacm: there was a shooting at a california airport? what a sick loser coward.
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Vexual: i hope kakos asleep or a counrty fan
Vexual: must need coffee and a fried jam bun
benkay: i would very much like a cardano into which i can put my own keys. and also to sleep with all of your sisters.
Vexual: if only bitbet was a bit more bubblegum :)
Vexual: id bitbet theyll joke about the tsa agent getting shot at lax, those writers dont give a fuck
Vexual: ironic in contrast with clinton repealing cryptography laws and smoking cigars like a pimp
Vexual: http://www.vulture.com/2013/10/taran-killam-on-12-years-a-slave-sketch.html
Vexual: last week had an interesting piece on how obama is disallowed from being a free thinking individual
Vexual: yes, that is a truer thruth
Vexual: with a howto on trilema as soon as the check clears
Vexual: you would take 1 million to put a socketed backdoor chip on your stick
Vexual: that mining bug is a motherfucker
Vexual: or diversify in a profitable direction?!?!!