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asciilifeform: eventually gabriel_laddel will see the light.
gabriel_laddel: Even unpacking and then repackaging it causes this - so must be that I have two versions of cpio installed or some nonsense..
gabriel_laddel: I can unpack the thing, inspect & modify the tree, but when repacking it and writing it to the USB == kernel panic
gabriel_laddel: I looked into it previously, and it seemed that simply modifying the working initramfs I have now would be much faster - but no such luck yet.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i suggest taking my buildroot configs as example
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: terrible atm - cannot generate a initial ram filesystem that works correctly :/
asciilifeform: how goes the lispificated gentoo gabriel_laddel ?
yangwao: and I might found another in JOSE, in X25519.. but looks its still in rfc draft thing
yangwao: NaCl is ok (hope), I think, there just problems in libsodium, ehm this one https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium
shinohai: Also in the run moar SSL department: https://www.computest.nl/blog/startencrypt-considered-harmful-today/
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/YQe
thestringpuller: jihan wu, bout to lose a lot of money.
mircea_popescu: but smoking hot, at that.
mircea_popescu: she was hot in the late 40s / 50s, and competent thereafter.
phf: oh she played in death in venice, and weirdly enough in Dune (as the reverend mother)
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/e/e4/Mondine-Pontogliesi-e-meridionali-anni-50.jpg << realist picture (the other one's idealist, in that it's silvia mangano.
mircea_popescu: women only, day farm labourers, doing ~nothing in the muds of rice paddies.
mircea_popescu: basically, every culture has a "women on sale" marketplace. the egyptians stick them in shops, if you got money to buy goods maybe you got money for an extra cowsy ? the italians of the pre-roosevelt era stuck them in this bizarre field job.
asciilifeform: wat's this
trinque: I'm going to have to watch this
mircea_popescu: mazel tov!
asciilifeform: so gossipd is posed to be the first live-fire open air rape of this usg directorate.
asciilifeform: (luby himself opened up a troll shop, it seems)
asciilifeform: if anyone wondered why fountain (e.g., luby's) algo is not widely used, answer is... mega-unsurprise... patent trollage
asciilifeform: to briefly pick up yesterday's thread,
trinque: yes, but at least he'll have a new hoverboard with fans that never spin down
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 16:45 ben_vulpes: in other OTHER OTHER news, i upgraded this laptop to 10.11 and now the second mini hdmi port doesn't work
shinohai: "A William P. Tatem Elementary School teacher called police on June 16 after a third-grader said a fellow student made a racist comment about brownies" Good to know we are safe.
mircea_popescu: "argentina has a night life", "romantic comedies", whatever the fuck, all of it belongs on imgur.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i specifically disclaim any relation to the crap. either part of it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l what happened to 'dun post it on usgur!111'
ben_vulpes: most expensive x11 terminal i ever seen.
phf: ben_vulpes: you knew what you were doing and you suffered the consequences
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 16:12 mircea_popescu: "did you as much as re-read this shit ?" "ain't nobody got time for that ??"
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493506 << oh god. this is my life. maybe I should ask asciilifeform how long until I succumb to radiation poisoning ☝︎
ben_vulpes: in other OTHER OTHER news, i upgraded this laptop to 10.11 and now the second mini hdmi port doesn't work ☟︎
ben_vulpes: "i heard that if people bop you on your head, gold coins come out of your butt" ok i died
mircea_popescu: $google "these bitches are disrespectin' an' that ain't right!"
phf: ninja warrior with tits sort of thing
mircea_popescu: the point was not the pun!
ben_vulpes: miserable puns are made better with excessive setup. 'better' in the sense that your audience suffers more.
mircea_popescu: yes, that's my point :D
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that was a /lot/ of setup.
mircea_popescu: you know, i'm mildly surprised webcam companies haven't built the arcade scroller irl yet. you could have this special obstacle course built, have the camhos try and complete it, people could pay to watch, bet on whether they manage or not...
ben_vulpes: you should give swift a try
mod6: just putting that out there
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'what three know, the pig knows'
asciilifeform: flooded with TBs of nonstandard tx.
asciilifeform: interesting method tho
asciilifeform: would be the logical time, anyway
mircea_popescu: all sorts of things were supposed.
asciilifeform: i thought it was supposed to coincide with the halfocalypse
mircea_popescu: anyway. summer of forks proceeding without much gas, one confused byzantine general moving chaotically around the field.
mircea_popescu: "it's not clear how bitcoin will react ?" fuck you. a) there's nothing to react to ; b) it's fucking clear how people react to nothing.
mircea_popescu: everything is twisted around. "ecosystem" ? ie, what, five derps with 200 socks each ? that's the ecosystem ?
asciilifeform: 'i didn't shoot him in the head to kill, just gave his brains CHOICE OF WHERE TO GO!111'
mircea_popescu: ie, "miner cartel got beaten to shit, withdrew temporarily, wants to have control over bitcoin! IT WAS PROMISED!!!!".
mircea_popescu: check that out, it's golden : "It is not clear how developers will now react. To not give the ecosystem choice opens Bitcoin Core developers to criticism of centralized power where developers decide even political matters of increased capacity, increasing the risk of legal liability and threatening an open war with miners which, having the full support of almost all prominent bitcoin businesses, are likely to come out much st
mircea_popescu: this, needless to say, i hope, ISN'T HOW YOU FUCKING WRITE. code or anything else.
mircea_popescu: and in the rare cases when they re-read, they re-read like they re-stroke the penis. to recognize, not to understand.
mircea_popescu: "did you as much as re-read this shit ?" "ain't nobody got time for that ??" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they write like their disciples code, which is to say, breathless, first pass, never read.
mircea_popescu: but they didn't then bother to go back, and check the terms, and check the relations, and cross-examine their production.
mircea_popescu: it's like a cow mewing or like a kitten braying, you can readily see going through their productions that they... felt, something, there.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 15:32 trinque: there are so many false political assumptions embedded in them it's hard to pick a starting place
mircea_popescu: phf for the record, a large part of the problem (seen in http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493382 say) is the very unreflexive manner of these derps writing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which one is that ?
asciilifeform: sorta like the indian in mircea_popescu' skyscraper essay
mircea_popescu: basically, the american indian mentality.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 16:00 asciilifeform: rms is tragicomic precisely ~because~ he won't let go of fundamentally usgistic thinking
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493483 << this is true. the thief who is terribly terribly sorry he got caught and not even a bit aware he was stealing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: like that.
asciilifeform: 'kinetics proposes, thermodynamics disposes' (tm) (r) (uncle al)
mircea_popescu: (when pursuing evidence, there's two kinds : indicative and dispositive. the latter is the sort that ends the inquiry ; the former is the sort that points to the way towards the latter.)
asciilifeform: perhaps better analogy here is the astronomical epicycle.
mircea_popescu: sure, may have all sorts of other relevancies ; but not dispositive or even indicative re the theory of everything, or computing for that matter.
asciilifeform: rms is tragicomic precisely ~because~ he won't let go of fundamentally usgistic thinking ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i disagree - they are excellent examples - along with, e.g., mr mold - of failed autoappendectomies
mircea_popescu: yes, indisputably a mole happens on the skin ; yes indisputably aunt molly's mole did in fact occur. nevertheless, irrelevant anecdote of no further import.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to phf 's thing : i frankly dun think rms/frf/etc are relevant here, not anymore than aunt molly's mole is relevant in a discussion of dermatology.
a111: Logged on 2014-10-21 01:30 asciilifeform: 'As progressively dumber programmers build progressively more complex systems we will see more of this kind of attempt to paper over coding mistakes with lawyers, sanctions, policies, and laws. Hollywood and the RIAA are usually the most successful at getting the government to do their bidding. Thus I predict that one day Disney will have a Web site where you can buy access to any of their movies. Because
mircea_popescu: the gall of these shitheads. how DARE THEY use fucking words other than "fdsjkhgwreifgiwiotghfegbvhwerg" to denote their vomit.
mircea_popescu: Times have changed, women are now worthless, but computers aren't, and these same dead hand fictions propose anew : that they own all computers, that if you own a computer it's only a sublease from them, subject to furthering their regulations and so on and so forth. Specifically excluded from all this - what the code actually says and does. Particularly "criminal" - using a computer in the manner it itself allows to be used."
mircea_popescu: nce of the regulation they emitted as to how women may be used and may not be used and so on and so forth. Specifically excluded from all this - the woman in question. Particularly "criminal" at the time - using a woman in the manner she herself wishes to be used.
mircea_popescu: the book sez : "A parallel with human sexuality is not unwarranted here. At a past time when the ownership of female humans was the principal method to control capital formation and the political process, the same sort of dead hand fictions proposed that they in fact control the usage of women, that anyone owning a woman does so only as a sublicense from their sovereign ownership of all women, and may proceed only in furthera
mircea_popescu: yes! ty!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't find the one with "buy computing" like old dudes/church wanted to "buy women". darn.
mircea_popescu: wasn't my intention to discuss the former, really.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there's a difference between secrecy AS A STATE and code sharing AS A PROCESS.
mircea_popescu: so in general, i expect the notion of "code secrecy" to be as nonsensical today as when stallman was a wee tyke getting started on other people's emacs.
asciilifeform: it isn't simply about 'he's my chum, i will lend him my pistol, and i trust that he will only shoot coke cans'
trinque: and not generally with the jewish grandmothers
trinque: it's a personal matter which would be evaluated in the context of our friendship
mircea_popescu: what specific measures should he take in his relations with his gf, other than the current precautions so wife doesn't find out, to satisfy your needs ?
mircea_popescu: trinque what if say his gf splits, steals his hdds, now it's online (because she accidentally publishes it through running open webserver os). now you negrate him ?
trinque: and I have 0% doubt that he will do that
trinque: I gave ben_vulpes an OS image a while back, asked that he use it internally only
mircea_popescu: it's why nsa fails so badly. all their budget goes to filling the barn, ~none to guarding the barn. ☟︎
trinque: but I don't want to sign onto a talmudic interpretation of WoT-o-tronics, either generally or in this instance
asciilifeform: trinque: and that it is not a reasonable thing to ask others to do without a good reason