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benkay: i would put the
a.c. outside for the night if that hit my radar unsolicited.
benkay: it's not
a subcommittee, it only reports to me.
mike_c: it's one of those arguments that when you hear it, your ears start to bleed
a little.
benkay: i think the implication is that it's
a currency by consensus
benkay: meaning in the absence of
a functional commodity-backed cc?
benkay: but occasionally i find myself confronted by
a wall insufficiently arted
benkay: nubbins`: when
a thing strikes me as being of high quality, i generally submit it to the aesthetics comittee for discussion and then instruct said aesthetes to purchase the thing
nubbins`: you do it like you'd shop for pants or
a new shower curtain or whatever?
benkay: on an entirely different topic, i fly to argentina tomorrow. i'd be glad to act as
a proxy in buenos aires for, you know, not *anyone*, but people in this channel with btc-related inquiries
benkay: very definitely
a delegable task.
nubbins`: so you pay someone to buy art to put in your home or office or w/e in order to not appear like the sort of person who would be perfectly content inside
a grey cube
bitcoin349: If the rat is on their computer from when I sent it without hiding my ip then I uninstall it before wiretransfering funds through bitcoin on
a virtual machine with different settings and hiding ip on 3 layers would I be traced or would their not be
a log in the ISP of the info about the rat.
nubbins`: made it
a couple of paragraphs in before realizing that i already knew how the conversation would go
mircea_popescu: lol no, you can't "Discuss" nonsense. to discuss
a topic you have to renounce nonsense.
nubbins`: regardless of
a self-appointed lord's opinion
nubbins`: or whether or not X or Y is
a criteria for defining it?
mircea_popescu: if the shipwreck survivor found is
a noble or
a peasant, not if he owns
a lot of farms and what havd you
mircea_popescu: audience has nothing to do with it. this is wholly
a medieval-inspired problem of probatory.
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "i found
a 500 year old kinda cool painting"
mircea_popescu: think of an old painting being discovered in
a stahs. what is the question first and foremost asked ? is it something as to the paionting itself or is it as to the pedigree of the owner ?
nubbins`: so it's art if it reaches an audience of
a certain size
nubbins`: you wanna paint something or write
a song, you're limited only by your own level of ambition
nubbins`: you wanna air
a tv show, you need the permission of your master
nubbins`: after all, what's
a bigger beat-off than "i'm the guy who sez what's art and what's not"?
nubbins`: well, obviously, if you take my view, all art is
a bit of
a beat-off
nubbins`: of course, absurdity is
a spectrum
mircea_popescu: but this has little to do. you were discussing
a particular application of the theory, with what i took as
a view to reduce it to absurd.
nubbins`: so you pop into someone's house, point to
a painting, and say "actually that's not art at all", and thus it was never art
nubbins`: ^ this implies that there's
a ladder we're both on and you're above me on it
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> surely there must be something that makes mp
a good judge and nubbins
a poor one? << this implies that perhaps nubbins could move upwards in society, and contains implicit an equivalency of substance between the two. this isn't an accepted point between us.
nubbins`: surely there must be something that makes mp
a good judge and nubbins
a poor one?
nubbins`: as
a facile counterpoint, why not?
mircea_popescu: there is no because in the correct statement. in fact, we can judge how good
a nubbins you are by how adequately you weep when art is presented
nubbins`: you changed your example
a bit there
mircea_popescu: it's quite
a case of "you're cured if and when i say you're cured".
mircea_popescu: you don't discuss surgery in terms of the subjective impressions of patients.
a similar discussion of any other craft is similarly out of place.
nubbins`: someone says
a piss pot "is art to me". i don't care, because whether it's art to them has no bearing on whether it's art to me
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the miscasting as art as "that which yields emotional response" is roughly the reason trolling has become such
a big deal culturally.
nubbins`: and there are those who would argue that such
a kidnapping is "performance art"
nubbins`: but the very fact that she weeps implies that she is having
a strong emotional response to it
nubbins`: the natural extrapolation of your argument is that you can walk up to
a woman weeping at the beauty of
a painting, or of
a spoken word, and politely inform her that what she has observed is, in fact, not art
dexX7: fringe is
a us tv series
nubbins`: but the difference here is that all can agree on whether or not
a cat is dead
mircea_popescu: nah, see, the equivocation at work here is that the requirements for being an observer in the foresrt with
a falling tree are very low
nubbins`: but as
a matter of determining whether it's art, yes
mircea_popescu: the eiffel tower on yoru commode is not
a piece of eiffel towers.
nubbins`: it's not THE art on my walls, it's
A piece of art
mircea_popescu: for that matter, you may perhaps in time come to own
a miniature of the eiffel tower, which you may emplace on your commode,
mircea_popescu: "unequivocally and inarguably
a work of art" only in the republic of one constructed by your own living room, of which you are president.
nubbins`: unequivocally and inarguably
a work of art
nubbins`: about five years ago, i moved into an apartment and found
a large piece of wall panelling with
a picture painted on the back side of it. it's currently gracing the wall of my living room.
nubbins`: and i find such
a stance so bizarre that i'm not even sure where to begin picking it apart
nubbins`: i dunno, man. maybe i'm applying too much of my interpretation of your "system" into your words, but it seems like you're flat-out stating that it's not art unless someone in
a position of power or influence over the artist decrees it to be so
mircea_popescu: but there's
a difference between calling
a dude
a nigger for convenience, as the shortest word available,
mircea_popescu: that aside, there aren't really enough points given explicitly to make much of
a call.
nubbins`: you can't claim to know
a man's mind and not expect him to ask you to elaborate
nubbins`:
a reasonable enough representation
mircea_popescu: in all situations where
a set of representations appears equivalent but one excludes all others, that's also the correct one, and the others are degenerate.
pankkake: also stuff has
a tendency to disappear at the border
nubbins`: i sold some poor EU guy
a rare casascius coin
a while back. he insisted on insuring it for its full value, and was very sad when he had to pay hundreds of dollars before they released his package
mod6: nice chart. someone has
a pretty good bid in @ 195 on bitstamp.
nubbins`: received
a large order of paper on friday, can't wait to start testing it out
truffles: is nerd
a negative word to nerds ?
nubbins`: there was
a guy selling pregnancy tests on the forum
truffles: "
a bitcoin condom machine.." that was
a good one
Jere_Jones: We've got
a ton of banks and they all suck.
nubbins`: we've got what, five or six banks? and
a bunch of credit unions
Jere_Jones: I'm not *happy* about needing BoA to not fail. But I would be in
a bad spot if it did.
nubbins`: take
a moment to examine the parallels
nubbins`: same bad idea with
a different pretty bow on it
nubbins`: priced suspiciously like 3 blades in
a box, too
Jere_Jones: I'm not even sure those are new. Sounds suspiciously like 3 blades in
a box to me.
nubbins`: AM1 made it all the way to 0.88 earlier, i guess people are really expecting
a lot of suckers to buy those new box erupters or whatever they're called
nubbins`: and as
a further response, i'd sooner put my eyes out than work in IT again
mod6: i agree, there has to be
a better way.
mod6: ahh i see your comment and reply in that article: I believe that efficiency in computer design is
a false god. Give me an “inefficient” but responsive and “Seven-Laws Compliant” computer any day of the week in place of the monstrous PC, that race car which regards steering wheel input as mere advice and so eagerly speeds off cliffs and into embankments. << hahaha
mod6: but we wouldn't have
a map in what to do, only what not to do.
mod6: we'd simply only have
a lesson in what not to do.
mod6: so what if we got to
a point where we needed to throw everything existing away (now), how we would we proceed?
mod6: muscle memory is
a bitch
mod6: hahaha. yah but people are creatures of habit. but thats only because it's been allowed to persist. if people were only given type
A new keyboard (dvorak) then that'd be used. kinda like only left hockey sticks in soivet union.
mod6: i mean, the idea of
a 'successor of unix' is appleaing to me, eventhough I <3 *nix (in general compared to whatever, windows). it would be amazing to have something abstracted to the level where it can handle physical systems and be virtualized too and be next gen