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mircea_popescu: well, i imagine half their patrons are riggers.
asciilifeform: folks buy to celebrate something, remember old civilized times
asciilifeform: phf: i found it interesting that EVERY ru store in dc area stocks it
asciilifeform: from sturgeon caviar to cars made of actual iron
asciilifeform: from mircea_popescu's felt top hat to the bmore brick house.
asciilifeform: as result of the march to ant-civilization.
asciilifeform: my point was that much of what was ordinary or even commonplace then, is scarce and precious now
mircea_popescu: well, kids taste
asciilifeform: and that in usa it is roughly same, by mass, as eating pentium-iv's.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re persian carpets, recall that we also had sturgeon caviar.
ben_vulpes: i get the ~40 yo ones, only ~1k
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if memory serves, they cost ~2-3k a pop, which is to say about the same as a hundred vinyls or so.
ben_vulpes has several of these
mircea_popescu: did we live through ww3 and nobody noticed ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform irani imports, "persian carpets" in romania. the shit that was common middle class in my parents' house and is now untold luxury omfg.
ben_vulpes: never vacuum the kilim
mircea_popescu: parquet, area carpets, women with carpet beaters a few times a year.
ben_vulpes: $newbox has one too
ben_vulpes had that while attending uni. 8th floor, poured concrete building, enough ac to make nipples pop, gas fireplace but *electric range*
phf: it seems like they can't quite get it right here
phf: but have that at the expense of builtin "carpet" in bedroom
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 16:07 mircea_popescu: bitch, i grew up in a land where the window is an entire wall and it opens out all the way
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495657 << i have that one, it's available here, but premium feature. the kind of stuff you see on those "rich people in new york apartments" photos ☝︎
asciilifeform: they are built by the thousands as a straight scam of the banks on themselves.
asciilifeform: just like the ones near where i live.
asciilifeform: though, interestingly, i did see a freshly-built block of cardboard condos right in the middle of the red zone. empty.
asciilifeform: nobody's squeezing those folk out.
mircea_popescu: which they infested in the 60s/70s.
asciilifeform: they are used to keep it out of the white cardboard.
asciilifeform: i saw 0 tanks in black bmore.
mircea_popescu: (yes, the deep reason amored truck is "needed" is exactly this : moving the injuns around will require some caterpillaring.)
mircea_popescu: apparently, they want them back so bad, it's even worth destroying the police over it.
mircea_popescu: people want the houses of the grandfathers back, can't built them anymore.
asciilifeform: built in 1920s at the latest.
mircea_popescu: yep. kinda what's driving the entire resettling of the injuns.
asciilifeform: and actually made of things like brick and lath-n-plaster
asciilifeform: and one of the appealing things re the bmore structures was that they were from a previous age
asciilifeform: i was speaking from the pov of the gosplan folk who designed this crapolade
mircea_popescu: it's a war, after all. i count their "innocent victims" even as they count mine.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the usg counts "corruption" against me. i don't.
mircea_popescu: "nobody". the usg doesn't. i do.
asciilifeform: i brought a miner's head lamp with me, and scarcely had to use it, except in the cellar.
mircea_popescu: so let's hear it, brick and termopan window vs vinyl siding and shit on a stick.
asciilifeform: incidentally the bmore house had massive skylights.
mircea_popescu: since we're doing externalities, let's do the whole shebang, not like i'm a fucking redskin and the oh-so-clever ustard is going to get to count MY externalities and just mine.
asciilifeform: what do you think.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter the disadvantage of porthole + neon light "for energy efficiency" ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform anyone bothered to run the "fire hazard cost" "amortized over lifetime of house" for the shitty wood-glass napalm mix ?
mircea_popescu: such, such were the joys.
asciilifeform: ergo tiny portholes instead of windows. and the other joys.
asciilifeform: 'white man was not meant to live here'
asciilifeform: how does that help in the summertime ?
asciilifeform: it has hollow wooden thing with fiberglass.
mircea_popescu: this window insulates better than anything full brick or below.
mircea_popescu: lower than concrete wall.
asciilifeform: amortized over the life of the house.
asciilifeform: the thermal cost.
mircea_popescu just did the calc, ~800 bucks for 3.55 x 2.0 meter window, 24mm float glass x2 with argon filling.
asciilifeform: older american dwellings have titanic windows.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same for the ones i linked. of course.
asciilifeform: the glass is double-layered and there is typically inert gas inside.
mircea_popescu: we'll fuck in the park.
mircea_popescu: yes, and it makes me want to put the drink down and leave.
asciilifeform: ^ these are sop pretty much everywhere there is a window.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to http://www.crl-arch.com/Images/systems/us_alum/hurricane_resistant/iw8000/iw8000_hurricane_window_1.png inept bullshit.
asciilifeform: quite typical in posh flats in usa.
mircea_popescu: it's a 20sqft slab whose main purpose is to allow the master bedroom to have proper windows.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usually this is done for the 2 rooms (of 4) that have "a balcony"
asciilifeform: in usa this also exists, typically doubles as the back door of a house.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, they were wood rather than plastic frame then
mircea_popescu: obviously not the historical window in question.
mircea_popescu: bitch, i grew up in a land where the window is an entire wall and it opens out all the way ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they have these tiny shits, more insult than window. and then IT ONLY OPENS HALFWAY.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i dunno that i loathe anything us as much as THE MOTHERFUCKING WINDOWS.
asciilifeform: yes window. the only usable opening.
asciilifeform: ruinously inefficient on account of their proximity.
asciilifeform: hence window boxes, where the hot end hangs out and cold end blows in.
mircea_popescu: but also done for condos here and there.
mircea_popescu: usually done for warehouses (originally, a thing from positive pressure clean rooms)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, central air is when you have a huge tube and the conditioning happens entirely outside.
mircea_popescu: unlike central air, you move freon gas around rather than air. so no huge tubage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that ~is~ called central air, where i live.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a split unit is this thing where the compressor and hot phase sit outside, for instance on roof, and cold head inside.
mircea_popescu: just thinking about "window ac", wtf is this "feel good" nonsense. it clearly doesn't solve the problem, it just what, gives you the impression of a cool breeze ?
asciilifeform: incidentally an ac buildout needs a licensed freonist in usa to be street-legal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is an improvement for the trees!
asciilifeform: eh, the american variant (where sc4mz0rz stow imaginary printolade in faux 'havens', where their accounts get promptly zeroed out upon discovery) is scarcely an improvement
mircea_popescu: now you know where Guo Boxiong's truckful comes from. it's a dropplet of the rain falling on all things from the comrade xi's fountain.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 15:01 asciilifeform: where they ran out of where to put the dough
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495567 << regarding this from a purely engineering perspective, what better proof that government fucked up with the printer, than when there's more dough THAN WHERE TO PUT IT ☝︎
gribble: Framedragger was last seen in #trilema 4 days, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Framedragger> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492083 << out of loop; soo, many awesome bitcoin nodes actually run on the same host? kinda hilarious / sad
mircea_popescu: i suppose mormon smith imagined europe needs "a new kind of mormon bible". you know, the one they've had for about 2k years.
mircea_popescu: get a load of these schmucks. step 1 : pretend inept, boring shit like "star trek" and "the assvengers" is fiction. step 2 : pretend even more inept, boring shit like "star trek 8" and "assvengers 7.3" is ALL THE POSSIBLE FICTION. step 3. pretend like the ~everyone who never gave a shit about the little island of crazy "needs a new something or the other".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1495562 << and the literary genre in question is "the us is so assburgerdly fucktarded it is its own, if marginal, genre fiction." ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'm about to ~hrerf~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu must be using a 'postel's law' - 'attempt to transform barf into html' browser.
asciilifeform: phf: the goal is to not also have an albatross.
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/cXrc0 << somehow clickable there.
phf: i thought goal was zero rent, rather then resale value?
asciilifeform: this may or may not also apply to plumbing in that city.