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mod6: haha, chump-a-tron
asciilifeform: (using a Chumpatron reactor.)
mircea_popescu: the process is that an extra proton eats a low electron to create an energetic neutron and spits it out as a neutrino
mircea_popescu: a, but you need the rarer mercury.
asciilifeform: and considering that much of the cost of operating a reactor is bureaucratic in origin, the question may not have a satisfactory answer.
asciilifeform: might want to ask a domain expert. i've run across estimates from 1-10k/g
asciilifeform: cost will vary by manyfold depending on whether you assume a purpose-built reactor (expensive) or a tack-on to an existing civilian reactor (much cheaper.)
asciilifeform: and, you'll know when it starts happening, if you're a bullion aficionado and own a pocket geiger.
mircea_popescu: iirc it was ~1mn a gram as a degree of magnitude ?
mod6: yeah, they're gonna get a rude awakining on the fraking in a few years for sure.
mircea_popescu: ima put this in a n article just to have what to link later.
mircea_popescu: either get 1kg in a bag or you have no merchandise.
asciilifeform: given that: it isn't simply a mass of wire, but step-down stations as well.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it could be. at a signficiant cost.
asciilifeform: one of the inescapable problems is that the electric grid isn't really designed as a two-way machine
asciilifeform: varies by state. in most places you buy the unit proper, and get a tax break later.
mod6: yeah, i have to believe thats part of the deal. they're seen as "sticking it to the man"... but really its probably a good thing over all. and creates independant households.
mod6: the heat knocks out the power lots in the summer. I guess thats a function of cooling... but getting it back on line is hard as it gets overloaded on the draw. you'd think that having more people on solar would reduce the over all load.
mircea_popescu: takes a point of pride out of resisting beatings.
mod6: i had a neighbor when i first moved out there that had 2 kids in his apt and no power like 70% of the time. his apt was like well over 120 deg. F. during the day.
mod6: but, *shrug*. its certainly a royal pita if you're on the shit end of the stick.
mod6: (20:46) < mircea_popescu> well no, the deadbeat is a pain in the ass << this is true. they have a lot of drifters in az who come in and setup power and other utils and then flee before they have to pay.
mircea_popescu: i guess it's been moving that way for a decade or two already. not everyone is going to sit and whine with horseface-whatshername that men are "impossible to find"
mircea_popescu: mod6 the adsites for such weirdos are already awash in women that identify as "slaves" and will "do anything" but are looking for a monogamous, husbandy relationship.
Diablo-D3: everyone should strive for a low credit score
Diablo-D3: credit is a scam
asciilifeform: 'it's a Privilege to pee!' ☟︎
mod6: yah, its gonna be a whole different ball game for people. i have no idea what they're gonna do.
mircea_popescu: it's already a case of no wot, fu, you're not human.
mod6: seriously, it sucks a major dong down there if you have poor or no credit. its like financial apartheid
asciilifeform: where they pay $1 a minute
Diablo-D3: it should just have a standard magstripe
asciilifeform: in the u.s., every service that lets you 'eat' even a little before mailing a bill, is thought of as 'credit'
mircea_popescu: well no, the deadbeat is a pain in the ass
mod6: its such a pain the the royal ass though.
mod6: so they give you this meter thing that plugs into the wall, and from there you have to load dollars onto a simcard in an ATM and then put that into the meter.
mod6: let alone, that arizona has like horrid power company polices and rules. there are a lot of drifters who come through there, so it makes it actually hard to get power if you don't have good credit.
mircea_popescu: arizona would probably end up in the future as a whole state's worth of solar farms + datacenters here and there.
asciilifeform: see, when you boil frogs, trick is to use a nice temperature-controlled hob, and not a chinese unit with 'low/high/incinerate' settings on the dial.
asciilifeform: in a market economy, a place like Az would be inhabited by Indians only
mircea_popescu: the us is so far from a naturally regulating market economy it's scary.
mircea_popescu: so why are they so pissed that there's a ~ 0.1 cent fee per kwh ?
asciilifeform: i'm paying a tenth of that
mod6: what a bunch of assholes
mod6: just fyi: made a new biotter shell script (for air gapped hosts) https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_ag
deadweasel: I'm a Representative of the International Bitcoin Assc.
kakobrekla: apparently its near impossible to get a german make a phone call for you
truffles: why didnt u put the rice in a nice pile
pankkake: is there a difference?
Bunnyh: do all the payouts come as a single transaction too for each output address? so if i bet 1 BTC + 0.01 BTC and win, i won't get 1.something and a dust transaction back?
kakobrekla: but it will make it a lot easier to follow your own bets if you use same one
thestringpuller: is there a bet about whether or not they will make ulricht disclose his wallet passphrase?
Bunnyh: i'll try with a small amount, sounds like a useful feature at least
jurov: i have done it and remember kako sayin it's a feature
Bunnyh: can i send multiple transactions to a bitbet betting address so that they'll all be counted as valid bets (with different weights)?
mircea_popescu: ahahaha! kakobrekla get a load of this one :
mircea_popescu: "I am an executive assistant by profession, but I have worked as a stripper and escort in the US." ☟︎
freeroute: Ukto: hi, I have a question about Bitfunder. I still have some funds on there, but it says that minimum withdraw amount is 0.1 BTC. So will the amount I have on my account get credited to my public address?
mircea_popescu: "People who think there is a difference between wikipedia and erepublic/conquiztador are pretty lel"
nubbins`: and letting you play the older games with a new character, unlocking all these previously off-limits areas
nubbins`: and then released a "sonic & knuckles" cartridge that you could insert sonic 2/3 into
nubbins`: y'know, sega really pulled a nice one with the sonic the hedgehog series
asciilifeform: but a chum of mine confessed to writing 'classic nintendo' stuff.
asciilifeform: funny thing is, with basic rom-diddling equipment being a dime a dozen now, classic consoles are a great place to learn to program a 'real computer'
mircea_popescu: isn't that a shocker.
asciilifeform: i remember, as a kid, finding out about consoles and that other boys had... countably small! collections of games
mircea_popescu: console = spend > 500, upgrade it in > 500 at a time increments, games cost more than the unit
asciilifeform: the one that cost what a high-end pc of the time did?
mircea_popescu: and mind, 3do was in fact a console maker
nubbins`: well, again, you could never pull off the incredible machine on a console
mircea_popescu: esp if you're not a girl./
nubbins`: the fuck you gonna do with a joystick
mircea_popescu: i'd have tried it if it had a kbd. but joystick ?
mircea_popescu: (and the z80 before the pc, which i suppose could be argued to be a gaming console,
mircea_popescu: not even a game boy
mircea_popescu: i never bought a video game either.
asciilifeform: actually, that's a lie. bought a 'virtual boy' once - to cannibalize for the optics.
nubbins`: people acting like they never bought a video game console
nubbins`: this "walled garden" thing is a real yawn, too
mircea_popescu: what's a primary laptop
nubbins`: anyone who doesn't use a macbook as their primary laptop is a fucking idiot
mircea_popescu: yuou kidding ? most of the early ones went great, you could destroy a chan for ten days with one.
nubbins`: objective-c is a piece of shit language, mind you
mircea_popescu: you gotta be fucking old to have forgotten that you can make a kid replacement in half an hour and it'll be fun, so who the fuck cares.
mircea_popescu: what 19 yo ever gives a shit that a bunch of other 20 yos are off to gaol
nubbins`: runs pretty much any *NIX program without a hiccup
nubbins`: anyway, people lel at os x because it's shiny, but it's a great os
nubbins`: probably a bunch of shiny plastic, huh :(
nubbins`: my laptop is machined from a solid block of aluminum, what's yours?
nubbins`: ah, no, i pay a premium for superb build quality and a rock solid hybrid BSD/Mach kernel
nubbins`: you can tell because he is putty'd into a few linux boxes
mike_c: yes, i have to pay 2 btc about once a week to keep this thing running
nubbins`: mark all coins that touch a windows client
mike_c: um, i have a virtualbox running with ubuntu. i am putty'd into a few linux boxes. (but i'm running windoze)
mike_c: i did, for a few years out of college
nubbins`: it's a 22 year old's own fault if they don't know the score
nubbins`: a new graduate is what, 22 years old minimum
mike_c: right, but, like you don't punish underage kids for stupidity.. maybe a new graduate could be forgiven working at ms for a few years, if they then quit.
mircea_popescu: so if you're a girl in a nsa shirt, pls to send me your pic.
mircea_popescu: ideally ms should be able to obtain < 10% of the financial cost of running a windows system