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mp_en_viaje: happens to also be more or less the mainstream theory, but anyways.
mp_en_viaje: the whole "bald guy with glasses used to give girls a taste of life, gave stalin some rat poison, thought he'd make phriends among some really weary people who just perceived him as a lunatic" washes with me.
asciilifeform: i was not there, with time machine.
asciilifeform: re poison, the legend goes that stalin fell on floor after drinking from cup, no medical man was admitted into his chamber until well cold an' stiff, and when finally admitted -- cup gone. or some such.
mp_en_viaje: was beria i nfact the proponent of much more de-stalinisation than politburo was willing to take ?
mp_en_viaje: this position whereby "i discard all record for $cause" and then "what indicia do you have" is just obscurantism.
mp_en_viaje: and then you want me to tell you "what indicia". well wtf, answer some q's. the above, or "was stalin given rat poison" or "was beria popular or impopular in 1952" or SOMETHING
asciilifeform: admittedly this leaves very little written record to work with, the usurpers knew what they were doing, burned ~errything
mp_en_viaje: well, yes/no the above ?
asciilifeform: dun tell me it is on same hrusch.'evidence' as his cannibalism etc
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:33 trinque: but I guess it was permavacation to the outside, 80s partying
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1920651 << it was born because all the latino chicks want to go there ; and from some observation of mine re the implicit capitol of a spanish empire that still exists in the minds if not on the map and so on. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:27 asciilifeform: ended up. but -- and oddly to the uninitiated ear.. man was -- soft. he had a month or so to behead hrusch et al, didn't behead.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1920642 << this theory has some problems ; one among many being that stalin was actually preparing to behead beria. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: in other coincidentals : for many years now the agarwood's been exhausted in the wild ; by now this is the most valuable agricultural resource. >100mn dubaloos / ton.
mp_en_viaje: being a heir is such a kiss of death... they almost never fucking make it, terrible thing to be, an heir.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:26 trinque: why didn't he end up in the chair?
mp_en_viaje: it is actually a much better play to tell them it's not a big deal at all and let nature take its course. deal with the teenaged mothers and whatever else, cheaper than trying to recuperate 30yo "religious" mind.
mp_en_viaje: anwyay, to briefly revisit the "you found your cock, congrats" theme : people keep telling kids sex is a big deal, esp in the us. this unites it with freud-era vienna, where similarily. it's a losing move, getting kids convinced sex is a big deal ends up with too much garbage downstream, and especially very expensive garbage.
mp_en_viaje: which is fucking beautiful, cuz it's precisely why i even made a blog in the first place, save my fucking time.
mp_en_viaje: very quick answer to all sorta questions, i can get through like 5-6 normal people "dates" in all of three minutes.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-29#1920560 << incidentally, it's also very useful. "does your phone have interent ?" "yes" "give it here". then "what do you think this is ?" "looks like your slaves naked in the hotel" "ikr". ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: just look what happened, will you ? 20 lines produced 500 and i'm barely into the next day.
mp_en_viaje: nuts logs tonight.
mp_en_viaje: so at noon i was gonna feed this cute burlesque performer the girls picked up yest (long story), and i was hoping to get the nsa thing done in the meanwhile, but here i sit TWO HOURS LATER still going through the logs.
asciilifeform: 'and in fell his horse, and the whole army, and our three sons, who went to save'em...'
mp_en_viaje: it's time.
asciilifeform: in the end turns out she dropped bucket. and then imagined all sortsa...
asciilifeform: 'who?' 'kikos. my future husband' and tells whole tale
asciilifeform: little girl is sent to fetch water in the well, and comes back, 'mother , father , kikos , great man, has drowned!'
mp_en_viaje: (amusingly, socialism not only requires belicose fantasies to maintain themselves -- but also dies by them. miami-ism is fundamentally the mindeater of wartime, cowardice)
mp_en_viaje: there's lots of 'em, seeing how this is the principal eater of minds in peacetime
asciilifeform: famous armenian folk tale re subj
mp_en_viaje: neurosis is always this "what if" with an unsatisfied major premise. "what if my house burns down ?!" "do you have a house ?" "not yet..."
asciilifeform: harem is far from necessary moving part in this gedankenexperiment.
mp_en_viaje: especially if there's no harem, even.
asciilifeform: the fella who sends away his harem and calmly swallows pistol is imho not thereby a neurotic. the neurotic is the one who dwells, and loses his mind long before loses body, on acct of dwelling
mp_en_viaje: what, you think my slaves are enslaved by my fucking PENIS !?
mp_en_viaje: and THIS is the neurosis, substantially, "that if she asks and i say no might as well tell her to find another one".
mp_en_viaje: your erection ratio is definitionally <1 while their cuntdrooling ratio is definitionally >1.
asciilifeform: it is inevitable to grow old, unless fortunate enuff to be killed. but it is not inevitable to go into neurotic arse-mouth linkage
mp_en_viaje: consider the facts : 1. a permanent erection is a medical emergency. 2. every single female can, in fact, fuck permanently. 3. there's more than one of them as per the definition of the harem.
asciilifeform: next i guess we can play the scenario where friends invite me to go but cannot go, 'eh, arthritis'
mp_en_viaje: if harems ended when the male couldn't keep up with the hussies they'd be in the periodic table, with the late actinids. lifespan measured in picoseconds.
asciilifeform: if not so, then why must answer 'no' to the gurl
mp_en_viaje: he has the problems i ~could~ have, because i don't. see ? makes perfect sense, i ride the highs, he suffers the lows. like labour division.
asciilifeform: i suppose it'd have to be 'i am old and studying for the grave, find new master' in this scenario
mp_en_viaje: in fact, for best results she shouldn't be there, the physical slavegirl may prove distracting to the neurosis.
mp_en_viaje: is NOT NEEDED for this nightmare to be a nightmare. you can be worried that if you say x she may say y whether she;s there or not.
mp_en_viaje: see, the actual girl
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, indulge me. suppose you sit enthroned in your harem, and girly comes cuddling at your feet, like a cat. "master, please fuck me ?" now, your answer is gonna be no. this is a given, you simply can't keep up. and since it's a rational harem you're running there, she might inquire "but why not ?" and you say...
asciilifeform: all serious sufferers of 'acute christianosis of the cns' are flagellants. ride the highs, suffer the lows, like cocainists.
mp_en_viaje: "well, it's not the right moon phase" may be cheaper than "cuz i can't fucking get it up holy shit, how much is enough!"
asciilifeform: i suspect it aint the one he has, fwiw, but rather the one in that jewish tale where rabbi tells man 'bring into your house the cow, goat, sheep, then chase'em out sometimes and rejoice in their absence'
mp_en_viaje: but every married man eventually discovers this simple fact, that there she is, why aren't i fucking her.
mp_en_viaje: why the hell are you asking me, not like i train people to have these.
asciilifeform: why not also fixate on 'how to know when to take shit' 'problem'
mp_en_viaje: there's of course no why, hence the problem.
mp_en_viaje: why now ? why not then ? how could i know in advance when ?
mp_en_viaje: not at all the problem. he wants to know WHY.
asciilifeform: i dun recall any hint of dpb suffering the... problem described here , i.e. 'awash in cunt, how do i schedule it'
mp_en_viaje: they're different inasmuch newton had the fucking sense to discover higher math first. but otherwise, men painted in corners are men painted in corners.
mp_en_viaje: people can, and since can therefore often do, paint themselves in corners, intellectually (which "intellectually" means totally. because what more is there). newton is fixing alchemy and dpb is fixing the erection-timeline-discontinuity.
mp_en_viaje: the problem he's approach is simply that... the erect penis is the only element of limited supply. there's an erection function, and it's discontinuous throughout the perception-of-time. wut do ? how to resolve this ? when yes and when no, how do you mesh the discontinous erection timeline with the (apparently continuous, wtf is sleep etc) consciousness timeline ?
mp_en_viaje: to understand why not, gotta understand the problem he's approaching. then it's obvious.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:16 trinque: danielpbarron: ftr your fixation when fucking is allowed and when it's the naughty is the saddest thing I've ever seen.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1920632 << you're eliding the problem though. lookit : my solution of "cunt's always on, fucking's whenever blablabla" isn't substantively better. it's different, yes, it's a helluva more fun, sure, it's overwhelmingly more productive, of course, but it is still not much of a solution, and certainly not any better. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: by then it's too late.
mp_en_viaje: olutionaries, and for bonus points it oft happens (eventually) in the head of one of the small children there present.
mp_en_viaje: the problem with revolutionaries is that they're driven by want, not by possibility. leaving aside how what they want isn't generally what they need (as they manage to somehow discover what they need or else don't get mentioned by name, the set remembered by history is thereby selected for this trait), by the time someone figures out what the fuck it was they were doing... it generally happens at the orchestra&gunsalute funeral of one of them rev
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:23 trinque: asciilifeform: why is it that revolutionaries must break the cycle of succession, rather than simply replace the wheel?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1920635 << if they're worth the name, they break ~the structure of meaning~. then they don't manage to fix the breakage in time. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:08 asciilifeform: incidentally i agree with their pov where 'do you think anything stands 4evah, idiot? all must die, men, kingdoms, worlds'.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1920627 << the permanence bullshit was uninteresting at all points. the important part is to make it fucking good while it lasts, which is why hitler, napoleon etc are way the fuck better candidates for "won at life" than whatever tedious episcopalian, boring cripple, wanna-be black man or w/e the shit the us keeps pulling out of its asshole. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 21:29 asciilifeform recalls burial of grandfather, with orchestra, rifle salute, etc. and vague notion that various 'changes' all about are indeed connected with the disappearance of that gen
mp_en_viaje: (you know the joke, with "we tied him on balcony" ?)
mp_en_viaje: sovok didn't get cancer from the people trying to resuscitate it somehow, so at least it lives long enough the pension comes one more time
asciilifeform: sovok in the 'rockets & supercomps' sense was born, lived, and died with ~one~ particular physical generation of men
mp_en_viaje: has entirely nothing to do with the broken old people scattered about.
asciilifeform: this model applies moar closely than, i suspect, mp_en_viaje suspects :
mp_en_viaje: you wanna tell me the doctors; derpy "citostatics" are to blame ? they're just doing their job, tryna earn enough bread to follow the bird.
mp_en_viaje: it used to. but not anymore.
mp_en_viaje: the bird sings in the tree there as everywhere. but there, well... there it;s not calling anyone to anything.
mp_en_viaje: let's walk together into the oncology ward and sit ourselves down for a god damned minute and think.
asciilifeform: when Official decree became 'copy from w. reich', all downhill. consider e.g. buran. or the sad pdp clones.
mp_en_viaje: all empires are empires of the mind ; and the problem with them is that one day comes, eventually, when feeling good's no longer easy at all.
mp_en_viaje: there's a succession of steps, in sovok. and one step's the peak. the difference between the step before the peak and the step that is the peak is precisely this : object went from "feeling good was easy whne stalin sang the blues" to "i'd trade all my tomorrows for one of yesterday"
asciilifeform: 'feel like a trader'(tm)(tlp)
mp_en_viaje: you know, just like the gay song says. "feeling good was easy Lord, when he sang the blues hey, feeling good was good enough for me, hmm hmm"
mp_en_viaje: there's also a general choking of the future valve. but yes.
asciilifeform: plenty of idjicy to consider. e.g. there was a fixation at the time on solid-powder propellants ( for obv. icbm pluses, keeps better in storage, no need to fuel ) with repeated shoddy workmanship, pressed schedules, messy fails
mp_en_viaje: fwiw i do not believe the morons who ended up on suburbs acted purposefully. they ~ended up~ there, as the just desserts of a life spent being derpy. they didn't derpy deliberately, they just derpy.
mp_en_viaje: so there has to be this directed class of malfeasants and all that. i don't necessarily see it (i'm not saying you're provedly wrong, just, seems not needed extra premise).
mp_en_viaje: in the end our two explanation differ chiefly in the cognitive infrastructure you have to bolt on so it's not a case of russki idiocy
mp_en_viaje: i don't dispute they could've done a better job of it. i am saying they weren't.
asciilifeform: fwiw very similar vehicles are the bulk of today's profit fleet.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'n1' was built at peak of sovok aeronautics, and on proven tech.
mp_en_viaje: or put in other terms : soviet ship blew for exact same reason us ship blew, they just didn't have a feynman to chase politburo around with a beaker of iced seal rubber
mp_en_viaje: in case of space program, chair tallness > 99, can blow inexplicably for 5-6k times before need for further explanation than this simple one.
mp_en_viaje: perhaps. it seems entirely unlikely it blew up through foreign agency. it seems perfectly likely it blew up through accumulation of failure. if a) you have an official error tolerance of 1% and b) your dying empire is calling 3.7% '1%" and c) you start stacking chairs more than 3 layers tall, well... it'll blow up x% of the time "inexplicably" every time, and the x is a function of the chair tallness.