asciilifeform: trinque: i ran own postfix etc for yrs, and the box still alive, but i've found that actual ~delivery~ of mail ~from~ it into heathendom, is a crap shoot naodays

asciilifeform: ( slime for instance routinely wedges it on some of my boxes )

asciilifeform: theoretically i'd rather have 1 pedal instead of 2, but emacs aint stable/uncrashable enuff for me to comfortably move in

asciilifeform: ( or '02 or i dun even recall when )

asciilifeform: using it since '01 and intend to continue (at least while on 'c machine'..)

asciilifeform: trinque: i would easily be, but i like 'ratpoison'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1869015 << x86 process isolation is a perma-joke, been clear for ages ☝︎

asciilifeform: hm trinque , deedbot down ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1869016 << this is prolly a neato item but (to the possible surprise of some people) asciilifeform doesn't 'live in emacs' in the sense of using it for things that ain't files-on-disk editing ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: but of course it dungo with sslism crapola

asciilifeform nostalgic aficionado

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1869014 << y'mean pine ☝︎

asciilifeform still occasionally uses email, does not have a stable of meatbots that'd allow him to pretend not to

asciilifeform: ( on 30x faster comp, no less )

asciilifeform: meanwhile in heathen lulz, 'gmail' ( now 'upgraded' ) nao takes longer to load than winblowz email client asciilifeform used in mid-1990s did

asciilifeform: ohai BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: [ insert the mandatory ' if asciilifeform knew useful trades ' thread here ]

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's actually a return to 'vhs era' barbarism, prior to at&t breakup they also leased pnoje , could not buy )

asciilifeform: ( i fughet how often they can break and get 'at no cost!111' new )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: laugh, but it's nearly come; most of the users already have the 'subscription', they break'em regularly and get mailed new

asciilifeform: diana_coman: moar like plasti-car, quasi-mandatory 'installment plan' chump-artifact

asciilifeform: so it is being phased out

asciilifeform: ( current crapple doctrine, is that the mac is too much like an actual comp, too easily massaged into at least installing non-crappla apps )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed. the other day was entry of i-nintendo into 'pro' market, as i understand. new turn of frog boiler knob.

asciilifeform: ( they even got various trad desktop shitware ported to it, e.g. photoshop, positioning as 'you dun need computer no moar' )

asciilifeform: 'ipad pro'

asciilifeform: might have some connection with the lul

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for extra lulz, they released yet another $1-2k 'no headphone port, and here buy new power cord' box the other day

asciilifeform: bagpipe

asciilifeform: '"I do not focus on the sales in the next quarter or the next year," he said in August. "I focus on the ... hundreds, hundreds, hundreds millions of people who practically live their lives by it [iPhone]." He also called the iPhone "enormously underpriced," saying that it's worth far more than the $1,000 Apple charges for its latest models.'

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lulz, 'Buffett Loses Nearly $4 Billion as Apple Stock Tanks'

asciilifeform: erry so often, i see spamola that cannot be explained any other way (e.g. for some vacuum-moulding shop in milwaukee etc )

asciilifeform: gottabe

asciilifeform: ( maths d00d, of a sort. why spams? i do not know )

asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the spam lint traps, https://www.johndcook.com/blog

asciilifeform: and iirc BingoBoingo has bank , can transmute paper bag into what dc eats.

asciilifeform: copa a+++

asciilifeform: ( it still aint clear to me why 'otc' is such parched desert )

asciilifeform: possibly could pump some life into btc<->orc traders, neh

asciilifeform: nuts

asciilifeform: june i think

asciilifeform: max i've observed so far is 4day

asciilifeform: of the '5 weeks' , i mean

asciilifeform: (1st time i hear of such a thing)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you were moving it from in usa ?

asciilifeform: new york plumbers!11

asciilifeform: then would expect would be cheaper ( supposing errybody concurs )

asciilifeform: Mocky: lol, is theirs sideways or wat

asciilifeform: seems like 'price for rube', but then again i am not subjexpert

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho notbad practice at other times also.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/B4xaa/?raw=true

asciilifeform: eternal 2016 there, or wat

asciilifeform: lol!!

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: vs how many on typical day ?

asciilifeform: ha maybe it was the '16 beard patch

asciilifeform: ( took the printout to bed )

asciilifeform: and yes it took asciilifeform coupla passes for it to click.

asciilifeform: sorta whole result.

asciilifeform: ( if you change one, you ipso facto have a new output )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: they aint; recall that the square-bracketed items on right hand side are constants

asciilifeform: *they

asciilifeform: hey it's how the end up 'hare'ing krishna an' such. 'words do things'

asciilifeform: when i saw it, i was immediately convinced that it must've hung on an actual bordello, as cheap camouflage

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: 'i will not be common!'(tm)(r)(some film quoted in mircea_popescu's www)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i once saw a vintage door sign, 'this is a cobbler shop, there are no prostitutes at this address, thank you'

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: the proggy can be used in fyootoor to similarly examine whatever recurrent function.

asciilifeform: scheduler would've been a lulzy place to hide the boojum.

asciilifeform: hey, if never dig, never find.

asciilifeform: mod6: recall when i went on similarly fruitless expedition into kock.gpg guts, heh

asciilifeform: then, went to step on erry possible nail in erry plank, lol

asciilifeform: at the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-29#1866995 point, strictly ☝︎

asciilifeform: q's/nitpicks re the proof, welcome

asciilifeform: it's what i originally expected to find.

asciilifeform: ( and it is prolly possible to fit the 'storm' into a yet-smaller 'teacup', even )

asciilifeform: lol hey at least nao mircea_popescu knows that i feed'em to him as i get'em, instead of sitting on'em

asciilifeform: and if anyone can think of a shorter one that still 'fits in head', plox to post, and i'ma link to it.

asciilifeform: lemme know if the proof makes sense, once you get to it.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i would not use phrase 'very fine' but it ~isn't~ elementarily botched, is all. there's 2^256 outs, 1 per in.

asciilifeform: ( we're roughly where we were 1wk ago, if with a coupla new grey hairs ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: hopefully nobody's disappointed.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: yw

asciilifeform bbl,tea

asciilifeform: ^ diana_coman , mircea_popescu -- conclusion of series.

asciilifeform: ( there's prolly enuff of them that one could even squeeze a meager living from it ! like e.g. rat catchers in 18th c london )

asciilifeform: hey that's a godly work

asciilifeform: diana_coman: unlike, e.g., haskellists, we only do things if they make sense : as you pointed out, 'bit-vectorized' keccak aint constant time, no matter what, so no particular reason to bother with the massage

asciilifeform: morning shinohai

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: cuz no gnat, lol

asciilifeform: it's slated for inclusion in cuntoo, so at some point will come standard on rk, but that day not yet come

asciilifeform: billymg: you can't 'emerge' gnat on the rk, the only known arm64 gnat is ave1's, and presently gotta be hand-emplaced

asciilifeform bbl,meat

asciilifeform: ( but yes it's a proper ending, not a 'more studies needed'(tm)(r) )

asciilifeform: hm, loox like he went to sleep, i suppose i'ma spoil it tomorrow...

asciilifeform: shall i spoil it or not ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: soo asciilifeform had a bit of sleep and wakes up and turns out the serpent thing has a twist ending

asciilifeform: whatcha up to these days, shinohai

asciilifeform: i suspect it takes some serious effort to get stabbed in BingoBoingostan