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asciilifeform: decreeing that buildings shall have water pipes but no drains would make the lives of construction crews easier, but for some odd reason isn't a popular idea.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: You have a Knight facing b4?
nubbins`: randomcloud: after a fashion
asciilifeform: and reality has a nasty habit of violating your priors. because a physical machine is not a mathematical object.
asciilifeform: the whole 'immutability' thing is an outcome of a decades-long acid trip by 'mathematical cs' wankers
nubbins`: i can recall trading cad:usd at like 1.4:1 before going on vacation as a kid
gribble: Error: "flip" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: this is a sadder site
benkay: the20year1: what on earth do you mean by 'tie a new altcoin to btc addresses'?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Well You can spec a Turing complete language on a napkin in the bar. What takes time is building an implementation that runs on something. For most applications now, the various *nix's are going to be the best things available. If you want to write a new future of computing though instead of inventing Urbit someone could have just as well made a *nix that only offered as a Userland GNU Guile. It seems to me the Closest thi
BingoBoingo: benkay: There is a distinct difference between badness and sadness as a question of being different kinds of properties.
the20year1: Is it possible to tie a new altcoin to btc addresses?
benkay: i think it's a stunt to drive business for http://www.designinghypermediaapis.com/ butttttt i may be wrong
frb: a coin whose only redeeming feature is that it is named after an internet meme
mircea_popescu: basically, the longer a block interval, the lower the reward
diametric: its a hilarious satirical coin
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, It's a scrypt altcoin, roughly 100 billion coins if I counted the zeros right glancing at it.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No doubt, but embarassement is a force of education
pankkake: I wget -r trilema but besides a few old blog headers nothing much interesting
mircea_popescu: i guess now i know what i'll be doing when i'll be a dried up geezer.
mircea_popescu: apparently google imaging "site:trilema.com tits" and other dirty words yields a bevy of cool stuff.
kakobrekla: "get me some sushi and some raw usagi! And bring a spoon, cant put my eyes out with these sticks even if i wanted"
nubbins`: i think the first thing i sold was a btc logo t-shirt
nubbins`: well, the alternative (that he's buying btc with fiat via PMs) makes a lot more sense
nubbins`: not a ton
mircea_popescu: a
mircea_popescu: like a lot ?
mircea_popescu: dub definitely sockies, 2 days after he negged a scammer.
nubbins`: cutting my teeth on a related project right now
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i still have plans to make a nice print of it some day
mircea_popescu: i don't really see a better way tbh.
mircea_popescu: i suppose a decent solution for this is for an interested 3rd party to make dubble, which looks from dub's perspective
mircea_popescu: well it used to be a 0 total, apparently nanotube improved it so it's 0 to him
asciilifeform: any user must be viewed through the lens of a selected other.
nubbins`: who gives a fuck
dub: stamit is weird and has entitlement issues in that he thinks being a bag of air breathing meat entitles him to some basic rights
asciilifeform: the other way to avoid 'imperium in imperio' in a wot is: a tyrant.
dub: key is that nanotube has a Trust Cabal effect
asciilifeform: since this is important, i'll repeat it: you can have a cryptowidget that nukes itself when disassembled, circuits potted in unobtainium, etc. or you can have one whose function you can personally verify. can't have both. 'fried ice.'
dub: so he rants a little bit, makes a nuisance of himself in a couple of channels
dub: 't get over one person (gmaxwell) being a fuckwit
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: you could pre-sign push commands for 1 satoshi a few billion times (or withdraw commands, or whatever)
dub: so, we need a new wot btw
Vexual: nintendo has that exopy that will cunt up a chip if you try to get it off
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so suppose i want to extract the key so i can make a mpex acct and sell it ands then later steal the guy's shit. how do i do it ?
jurov: Vexual: asciilifeform posted a paper exactly about that yest
jurov: hmmmmmmm.... so a bunch of smaller then
asciilifeform: cardano key extraction is not physically impossible (that'd be a lie) - just non-trivial.
mircea_popescu: say yiou have a push for X and you meanwhile sold Y
jurov: pizzaman1337: if you used a cardano for mpex trade, then it would be feasible to sell the acct
Vexual: the mention of suitcases in this channel will propagate to a web article on bitcoin>bin ladens
pizzaman1337: looks like someone placed a buy order?
mircea_popescu: overall s.dice broke even on price and made bank on dividends, s.mpoe paid a little dividends and went up about 30x or so since listing
fiat500: "on average the MPEx investor buying discontinued assets exclusively made a net loss of about two percent over the course of a little more than a year and a half"
jurov: pizzaman1337: only if you can find a provable way to forget your gpg key
mircea_popescu: this isn't a price, it's a barrier.
fiat500: thats a nice way to look at it
mircea_popescu: 30 btc will still be 0.00000003% of btc in circulation. it's not a high barrier by any means.
fiat500: mircea_popescu: curious, say btcusd is at $40k, just to pluck a number out of thin air
Duffer1: they might as well be a scam
Duffer1: even if they aren't a scam just look at the track record of their offerings
sundun_: mircea thinks havelock is a scam
pankkake: if you can get 10% if it works, but it has a 50% chance to work, it's way too risky
sundun_: i understand its' a risk
twizt: everything is a risk sundun_
sundun_: i didn't think it would be a big deal to invest in neo&bee
fiat500: (also lets not consider cases where they are forced to because they've reached a threshold of stakeholders)
mircea_popescu: <Duffer1> btc is almost certainly a better investment then X << ESPECIALLY if you don't really read/know what X does.
Duffer1: btc is almost certainly a better investment then X
sundun_: sigh i just sent half a bitcoin to havelock
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 has a point, and so does jurov. don't rush it.
sundun_: it's a scam for them too?
sundun_: azoo sure. they reorganised as a entity run by "no one", recently. after which they allowed their largest company (virtex) to simply walk away from the investors 12:57:29mircea_popescu:collected >4k btc this year, paid no dividends, is now gone.
sundun_: can i get a tldr version
sundun_: had a couple of questions
sundun_: o i guess that's a yes >_<
pizzaman1337: MP comes with a briefcase full of cash to my door?
pankkake: can something with "cloud" in its name not be a scam?
pankkake: I thought their browser already existed, and that it was a tor bundle fork
pankkake: it works in the sense that you can register a name, update it, etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is the first time a dns server has to handle 10gb of cruft to resolve a query.
asciilifeform: (or gigantic tx. doesn't matter, since the coin is going in a closed loop.)
asciilifeform: store a few bytes as small tx.
pankkake: there is a thepiratebay.bit… but it's domain squatted
KRS|Gotyawallet: dig that first comment, reserved for a certain team-
asciilifeform: re: asics: anyone crazy enough to build a discrete-TTL logic miner yet?
KRS|Gotyawallet: This hw offering is from China, land of the asics. It must not be a scam. I heard the chips grow in the wild there. It must be wonderful. http://www.cybtc.com/thread-3396-1-1.html
asciilifeform: the barometer example is just one of a poorly-specified problem
mircea_popescu: "otherwise you need to use the 'code-cracking' part of your brain to try and infer a meaning from an unknown syntax."
mircea_popescu: incidentally, there is a good objection there : the example given seems very tilted toward people with experience in a C-like language.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch their problem is a relation to the self rather than to the world, the only way to have them relent is to change them
mircea_popescu: check out this guy. he's a teacher who feels able to help people fake the test,
mircea_popescu: e to blame the students and not the teachers. Now if a student is *unwilling* to learn the material then that is another question.
mircea_popescu: "The interpretation of the results of the above assignment test make me feel angry. I am not a teacher but I am confident that I can teach (in less than 15 minutes) any person smart enough to be admitted to a computer science class how to pass the above test. The results speak volumes about the utter ignorance of educators regarding the nature of human knowledge and how to acquire it. It is a tremendous act of injustic
pankkake: there was a community named "horseporn junction" that I was not part of, but it might be a hoax
asciilifeform: pankkake: are you a member of any that have 1970s soviet trinary mainframe manuals, rather than peculiar and rare fetish porn?
pankkake: what is it, a program for hairy gay swingers?
mircea_popescu: nah it was a coupla days before that i think
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nubbins`: the bitcoin "community" in general is a cesspool of stupidity and frottage