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mircea_popescu: i guess
they call
the words "int" and
the bytes "char"
mircea_popescu: and ftr,
the c notion of "char" is exactly equal
to
the notion of byte.
the
thing uses words and chars.
ben_vulpes: galls me on some level
to
think about a hash, which i concieve of as an integer, as a byte array or a set of chars.
ben_vulpes: without having
to cast said
to a NUMERIC
ben_vulpes: but it lends
the benefit of "oh, derps asked about 1b1tc01n34t3r"
ben_vulpes: CHAR[] didn't make much sense
to me, because a hash isn't instrinsically a set of characters, except insofar as a byte array can be seen as a set of characters, but which characters...
ben_vulpes: phf: i know, i meant 'integer' in
the abstract, with numeric as
the concrete implementation
that i'd use.
ben_vulpes: "why
the everloving fuck would i install 500 mb of webkit for shit
that should have been packaged with
the source?"
ben_vulpes: "where are
the docs installed with ancient djangos in virtualenvs?"
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly hoooooly shit
the retardation on display in #django
Joshua-I: Maybe someone will shoot him in
the face
Joshua-I: Pretty much
the same intensity it has been
this whole
time
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu:
the mastermind behind 14 seasons of 'the apprentice' always provideth
the lulz
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 01:33 phf: well, now kat.cr is down
too..
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 14:28 asciilifeform:
the only proggy i've ever encountered which did.
phf: well, now kat.cr is down
too..
☟︎ phf: ben_vulpes: well, fwiw
that question doesn't quite make sense from postgresql perspective either :) since your actual choice is
to store decoded byte array in a BYTEA, decoded number in NUMERIC or original hash in CHAR. integer won't fit an entire hash, since it's 4 bytes.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: aha! we've had
those for a coon's age. 15yo import laws baby. suck it.
gribble: Error: We broke
The Google!
gribble: Error: We broke
The Google!
pete_dushenski: "culture ? what culture ? imma wear my cowboy boots
to
the opera goshdarnit!"
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: semi-relatedly,
the delicas are migrating south
pete_dushenski: "redneck bikes!" << rich rednecks
too. og 'fat bikes' were >$5k until
the last year or
two when clunkier steel $2k models starting hitting stores.
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha ahahaha omfg
that "o noes snow" vid is priceless
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: will have
to send me a bottle of whatever he's enjoying
tonight
mircea_popescu: you can always
tell an anthropologist by
that womenz and bikers are in a confederacy against him!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'could' doesn't explain why whole cities stood still on
the plain for slaughter and rape by
the mongols
mircea_popescu: hanbot it's an anthopological fact. if woman could outran man
the species would not be here.
ben_vulpes: hence
the question of 'integer vs. byte array'
ben_vulpes: phf: i'd like
to stick
these values into postgres, not hold
them in memory in a lisp process.
mircea_popescu: hanbot nah, human female is built
to not be fast enough.
ben_vulpes: that stroll we
took in ba never cracked
ten
ben_vulpes: ftr i do an average 24.6 km/h for
thirty five minutes.
mircea_popescu: phf his question is not really formulated. "best" what, "least likely
to be fucked up by
the c compiler" ?
phf: ben_vulpes: well, binary
types are unrelated
to
the issue
though. binary
types you declare your struct, you still want
to decide yourself what goes in
the struct.
treating hashes as numbers makes sense if you're going full lisp, i.e. you're actually going
to do math with
those numbers (which is at
the end of
the day
their whole purpose), unless it's not actually a hash but a bit mask or a xor'd something or other
phf: ben_vulpes: if you're
talking lisp,
there's no reason not
to store
those values as numbers
ben_vulpes: that's not nearly southern women as it is "women who live in suburbia in
the south of usgistan"
ben_vulpes: anyways, very interested on notions about
tradeoffs of byte arrays vs. massive integers
ben_vulpes: my question is about data in
the blockchain. eg merkle roots, block/txn hashes.
ben_vulpes: well
the mr is a hash of hashes, no? doesn't have much structure
to it.
ben_vulpes: tooootally
tangentially and not at all related
to anything else, would
there be any reason
to store merkleroots, block/txn hashes as integers vs byte arrays?
mircea_popescu still recalls
the utter "holy shit" face of chick when shown
this magic
ben_vulpes: and put
that motherfuckin browser down, kid
mircea_popescu: alternatively, phpmyadmin is also just a script you can get standalone.
tho in generall it's a case of "people haven't actually ever
tried
to cli mysql because nobody ever
told
them
they could"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: the entire point i apparently failed
to make.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 22:28 ben_vulpes: looks like you 'just want
to' server stats from here.
pete_dushenski: kudos
to B. Zorina Khan for
the enlightened perspective. hey, maybe (s)he's even a log reader.
mircea_popescu: they have a point. when i cant get a bottle of nitric acid
to carelessly spill on
table,
there's not going
to be any inventions.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 22:20 pete_dushenski: less important
than incentives for creativity, flexibility, and
the ability
to make incremental adjustments
that can
transform existing
technologies into inventions
that are appropriate for prevailing domestic conditions." << basically get
the govn't out of
the way and que sera sera,
the meat will be what it'll be.
pete_dushenski: "specifically
the one who
though Mark Karpelès did it." <<
thought.
phf: pretty sure most 90s script kiddies at some point cracked latin dictionary and went "waitaminute" followed immediately by "well, what
the hell,
that's kind of cool on its own"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 16:24 shinohai: Kind of imagined you meant plural of viruses
there.
phf: z
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-20#1507246 << it's a
term of art from
the 90s, back when malware carried exclusively destructive payload, but since
then particular broken latin form morphed into oldfag leet speak for "malware"
☝︎ thestringpuller: yea. ix.is is good for qntra writers. just make script
to dump gpg
turd into ix.is and
then i can just dump
that
to irc
BingoBoingo: But yeah you're
the only person
to use it and
then
thestringpuller gets an invite before I do?
shinohai: did you
tell me you didn't like
that pastebin and I forgot ?
BingoBoingo: also
thestringpuller when did shinohai let you on his dpastey
thing?
ben_vulpes: in large part
to avoid showing
taxable incomes
ben_vulpes: idly considering acquiring several old
trailers, rehabing
them with ladybird and renting
them out
ben_vulpes: and
they
think
they only behave
that way /on ice/
ben_vulpes has enough cars, salivating over pickups and haustrucks
these days
pete_dushenski: in other news no one here can use, i'm brokering a rather minty 1991 porsche 964/911 carrera 4 coupe manual if anyone's in
the air-cooled market.