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mircea_popescu: should be a trilema. neh ?
mircea_popescu: in what thing ?
asciilifeform: holy shit mircea_popescu what's in that thing
mircea_popescu: i suppose one thing we could do is change how a111 works so that on every outbout link posted here it a) makes an archive.is copy of thje page ; b) downloads the corresponding zip ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 21:58 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not only this, but, the fella who runs archive.is is... not in my wot
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508359 << I was thinking this too. If people are gonna archive links that's fine but it's better to paste the original link in the logs -- I can always paste it into achive.is myself if it happens to dissapear ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there pointedly isn't some "god of the rolls" that this is to be offloaded to. if you can't be arsed to save the .zip files after someone did all the fucking hard work you don't even know how to do nor can motivate self to even attempt in the first place, there's exactly no value you have to save.
asciilifeform: all of mircea_popescu's quite valid criticisms of, e.g., 'imgur', apply to archive.is.
mircea_popescu: there is no way out of this. inept, infantile bitching about how "php is too hard for me" and "archive.is might not survive" etc is just so much wasted breath.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, keep a blog, keep it well backed up, so that if phf asks, you can link him
mircea_popescu: if your thing dies, this says you're not worth my time.
asciilifeform: 'oh we dun need to archive, google archived'
asciilifeform: recall how dejanews, and then google-groups, went to /dev/null ?
mircea_popescu: we don't have a survival plan for www in the first place!
asciilifeform: but - leverage. i fucking hate solving problems in a way that still leaves me to put out fire when the thing inevitably catches fire.
mircea_popescu: and IF it goes away, and that happens BEFORE www goes away, which is the fucking plan in the first place ; THEN maybe we worry about this, neh ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is so
mircea_popescu: when it "goes away" you will still have all the copies you made.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: is there an existing widget that emulates a 'typical' wwwtron and allows dump of the rendered material ?
mircea_popescu: did your objection change from "this free service doing a very good job won't last forever" to "my abilities to make copies it also provides won't last after it goes away" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: many of the more egregious turds, have runtime-genned-by-js crapolade
asciilifeform: somewhat gnarlier than it appears, this.
asciilifeform: recall the wget -m thread ?
mircea_popescu: not like archive.is doesn't present you with downloadable copy, preprocessed, if you're too lazy to make own html deturdifier.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i tend to collect copies, yes. but this is not a systematic thing, and won't be for so long as it has to be manually cranked.
mircea_popescu: jus' saying, i take such a dim view of branding i'm not even willing to consider projects ; merely the people doing them.
ben_vulpes: it's that thing the nsa jacks into
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem with shit in trilema is that people go "lalala nobody cares" and then five years later they're begging for a reprise. kinda too lazy to go digging for the various comments of smartasses of the sort.
asciilifeform: it might be a good time to parse all the archive.is links out of the l0gz and cache.
ben_vulpes: there are other irons to hammer in the meantime, thouhg.
ben_vulpes: i have a hateful noise machine upon which i intend to install gigablast eventually.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not only this, but, the fella who runs archive.is is... not in my wot ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/IRvva << this archive.is business does *not* make for neatly greppable things.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not to motherboard though?
asciilifeform: i suspect that m5 bolts will fly forth from my arse before they show up here, regardless.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes link being in today's log.
mircea_popescu: though honestly, the whole "vice empire" is very much the same sort of redundant object.
asciilifeform: which one was that ?
mircea_popescu: ftr, i'm going to negrate anyone giving interviews to this "jordan pearson" shithead.
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever, suing the government. what's the problem, let them have fun.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly same place it gets them now. folks more than ready to believe, wish to believe, that "poloniex" exists, is trading etc,
asciilifeform: were it not for these folks, where would usg even get any bitcoin to dump.
asciilifeform: phf: when somebody fattens himself and then, through sheer african idiocy, feeds the beast his own flesh, he is guilty of feeding the beast.
mircea_popescu: but this is a minor point.
mircea_popescu: i dun personally give much of a shit, for exactly the "Wasn't in wot, isn't a person, can't be buried" reason.
phf: asciilifeform was hating even before knew the details, so perhaps it's useless to look for reasons
asciilifeform: i can see this pov, i might not want crocodiles around, but there are still folks who can end up in a crock and i will not shed tear for them, even as we shoot the crock
mircea_popescu: if hitler built schools in ukraina, they were still fascist schools ; torn down.
mircea_popescu: this is what it means to be enemy - it doesn't get as much license as to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508296 ☝︎
asciilifeform: filleting the idiot
asciilifeform: from this pov, usg did a godly thing
mircea_popescu: it is a crime to allow stupid people keep their money.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 21:24 asciilifeform: ftr i have 0 sympathy for folks who ~sell~ warez. i dun care if they are eaten by usg, or by crocodiles, or martians.
asciilifeform: or what was it, they asked mircea_popescu, 'where do you WURK'
mircea_popescu: the presumption everyone's illiterate in the anglosphere is so fucking strong...
asciilifeform: tries to convince everyone to remove theirs also ?
mircea_popescu: opine about the competent. in faux superior tones.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 21:17 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508246 << lulzy: 'The deadlock between competing corners of the Bitcoin community when it comes to hard forking, in contrast, spells doom for the currency, according to Tual. “As long as that’s true, Bitcoin will never evolve, and it will die, because what doesn't evolve dies.”' << 'we've failed to stick in the proboscis and so let's declare it dead, neverhappened'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508266 <<< the incredible cheek of the usg scum. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-17 18:00 asciilifeform: or why he collects megabux of donation simply to give to lawyers;
ben_vulpes: https://youtu.be/xbuvcQrAOSk?t=213 << re pyrex thread
asciilifeform: like that imbecile from earlier thread,
asciilifeform: holy fuck, the 'law-abiding' schmuckdom on display
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 20:55 phf: in other bunnie news http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4782 "Why I’m Suing the US Government"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508255 << gold: 'Our recent generation of Makers, hackers, and entrepreneurs have developed under the shadow of Section 1201... Our children deserve better. I can no longer stand by as a passive witness to this situation. I was born into a 1201-free world, and our future generations deserve that same freedom of thought and expression. I am but one instrument in a large orchestra performing the symph ☝︎
danielpbarron: ah now i see that is snow in the forground
asciilifeform: cave with transparent walls?!
danielpbarron: i'd also like to know, but if i had to guess, it looks like a cave that is located under a body of water that is draining into it from above, as seen from within the cave
asciilifeform: i meant, what is the pictured item ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what's this ?
phf: his fate is not astonishing, but only because man chose to throw himself on bayonet
asciilifeform: and srsly, 13333337 'undergrounding' from poland, the mecca of nato-fellating shitholes ?
asciilifeform: it isn't that i particularly loathe this particular schmuck, but his fate is not astonishing, any more than the fate of a gay dude who 'barebacks' every night with randos at the 'bath-house', dies of aids
phf: in fact kat was only place that, if you visited without adblock, would tell you to use one
asciilifeform: from what i can tell, fella thought himself Too Good for wot, and for 100% btc op
phf: guy was a one man torrent operation provided oldfags and lusers alike with quality prods, it seems entirely petty to focus on his ad revenue, and ties squarely into usg narrative of "he made millions!!!"
asciilifeform: for good reason: it promotes exactly the kind of centralization that warez addresses the evil of.
asciilifeform: tried to GET RICH off warez.
phf: kat was an honest successor to thepiratebay
asciilifeform: ~same thing.
asciilifeform: why did he have money then ?
asciilifeform: ftr i have 0 sympathy for folks who ~sell~ warez. i dun care if they are eaten by usg, or by crocodiles, or martians. ☟︎
asciilifeform: run moar warez-as-get-rich ops, keep moar fiatola bank accounts filled thereby
asciilifeform: 'Finally, and crucially, the investigators issued a warrant directed at the Canadian webhost of KickassTorrents. This was one of the biggest scores as it provided them with full copies of KAT’s hard drives, including the email server. “I observed […] that they were all running the same Linux Gentoo operating system, and that they contained files with user information, SSH access logs, and other information, ' << use moar nato h
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508246 << lulzy: 'The deadlock between competing corners of the Bitcoin community when it comes to hard forking, in contrast, spells doom for the currency, according to Tual. “As long as that’s true, Bitcoin will never evolve, and it will die, because what doesn't evolve dies.”' << 'we've failed to stick in the proboscis and so let's declare it dead, neverhappened' ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 20:47 phf: asciilifeform: you happen to have a djvu archive of теxника-молодежи?
asciilifeform: phf: i dun have, but they do: http://flibusta.is/a/29774
phf: there's now canonical clip to play at the yet another demise of an excellent pirate site, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY258ILfYmE
ben_vulpes: part and parcel of financial license in the states.
ben_vulpes: "please to the pretty please to do what i want instead of what your masters demand? puweaze?"
ben_vulpes: you're not suing the government, moron, you're suing usg.disney
phf: in other bunnie news http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4782 "Why I’m Suing the US Government" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "This is how I know that anyone who says, "If only I could live in Mad Men time where you could pinch a girl's ass and not get in trouble for it" is going to be way disappointed if a TARDIS shows up, because they wouldn't pinch them back then, either, not because they are afraid of trouble but because they are afraid of girls. Exhibit A: you know what a TARDIS is." << guy rocks lol
phf: last moment preparations before leaving to my home planet
mircea_popescu: lol phf is preparing to take a shit.
phf: asciilifeform: you happen to have a djvu archive of теxника-молодежи? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the only thing that nobody could have predicted being the obvious future.
mircea_popescu: they can't of their own power say "we learned this was a stupid idea and will not be pursuing it any further." it's there, they must keep pouring money in the sand.
mircea_popescu: see asciilifeform ? they do, because they must.
mircea_popescu: phf um, iirc i only kept one, the one with the minimum income thing. you want that ?