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interviewee: i enjoyed your blog
that you pushed out right after
the attack.
mircea_popescu: financially, it's
toxic, for
this reason. nobody sane will get involved in it, which is
the point.
mircea_popescu: the actual legal standing is not established. it's one of
those
things
that are a huge pile of nonsense a judge will have
to cut
through.
☟︎ interviewee: so, it's unclear if any of
those disclaimer actually mean anythign or nothing
shinohai: i was just curious as
to
the legal standing of
the dao from US perspective
interviewee: however, none fo
this is legal advice- just my persaonl analysis
interviewee: complicating
this of course is
the fact
that an investor/DaoT holder could actually buy in without seeing any of
those disclaimers b/c
the buy in was actually just a ETH
transaction
interviewee: and who was authorized
to discllaim for
TheDao
interviewee: whcih of course was ambigiuous as
to its ownership for a while- so it was unclear what "disclaimers" actually came from "TheDao"
interviewee: then you have
the conflicting mess of declarations in
the daohub.org page
interviewee: you have
the readme.md file in
the git for
the slockit code
that had all sorts of interesting/strange declarations/disclaimers
interviewee: you have
the comments in
the actual .sol files as
to warranties and incorp. of
the gnu license
interviewee: however, flying in
the face of
that declaration were layer after layer of lawyer language
interviewee: as
to your q,
TheDao was evidently premised as code = law
interviewee: 4. if we accept
the law is code premise,
then is what
the exploiter did actually a violation of any others' rights?
interviewee: 3. if no contract and no "ownership"
then can anyone get anything usign
the legal system?
shinohai: hasn't it been established
that
the dao *didn't specifically prohibit
this behavior* ?
interviewee: 2. if
there is no contract relationship, is
there any conventionally recognized "ownership" right
to any of
the ETH/DAOt out
there
interviewee: 1. is
there any contract relationship and if so, what does it say everyone can and can't do?
interviewee: that is
to say, who has what rights/powers/responsibilities/burdens
interviewee: when determining whether any party has
the ability
to invoke
the power of
the legal system
to determine a dispute, you must first determine
the party's respective legal rights
shinohai: kk ... so ...
the dao. You believe
the "dao attacker' has a legal claim here?
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http://phuctor.nosuchla ☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 15:07 asciilifeform: i dun even grasp
the appeal of pr0n with cocks in it.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-22#1508816 << only now it dawns on me you prolly meant
the fingretrapped chick ? how
the fuck are you going
to judge her performance without
the cock stuffing ? it's like proposing
to buy a car in a closed bag wtf. you do go for drive
tests neh ? same
thing here,
the fucking point is
that random derp can't fingertrap worth a shit.
☝︎ mod6: i've got a few irons in
the fire currently... but let's revisit
this in a week or
two after I get some more work done with
the build stuff.
mod6: 1`120 of s.mg
traded
a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 23:38 BingoBoingo:
theft of course referring
to
the forking which was a
theft from legitimate DAO contract DAO'er
BingoBoingo: theft of course referring
to
the forking which was a
theft from legitimate DAO contract DAO'er
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Anyways
the greatest lulz of
the etherum fork business is
that really it seems like
they softforked
theft, not hardforked
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: "sorry fork, your loss" << actually had me lollin <<
ty. shinohai's piece muh edit
mircea_popescu: how
the fuck do
they do it, it's like
the luser is wired, genetically predisposed
to luserdom.
shinohai: nice i just got in, broke down and bough some muscadine wine for
tonite xD
mircea_popescu: this may be
the best
thing written in
that language
that year ; and possibly
the hardest
thing
to
translate from
trilema. notwithstanding
that it's not even found
there.
mircea_popescu: think of
the consumer like it were a woman - you don't just go plug her, right ?
mircea_popescu: well, alternatively could have had article explaining
things rather
than just bareback link
to data
mircea_popescu: gotta start ;
then gotta keep going.
through which process one achieves
the bookwriting.
mircea_popescu: you're dicking around on
tardstalk etc anyway, might as fucking well sit down and write something
that'll be useful later.
mircea_popescu: ftr,
there's a
tv franchise called "sit down, shut up". it never caught on.
mircea_popescu: i
thought he didn't like it ; worked about as well as any os he ever used, any software package ; any box of breakfast cereal etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-22 15:03 mircea_popescu:
that freerange female is ~idiot.
Sinclair6: just in
the process of booting up my systems after a
thunder and lighting storm
mircea_popescu: srsly,
they had
this. "womenz compete
to win wedding and plastic surgery"
mircea_popescu: but all
this aside,
the "reality
tv" put a half dozen 20yos in a house and film
the drama bs made a billion easy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform adding
that
to your anal illustrative inclination, i get
the idea maybe you should
try it!
mircea_popescu: now, i never understood
the appeal of dressing cows in "business suits" and pretending like
they're speaking when
they moo. but
then again i'm not in
the business of running
the us empire of pretense.
shinohai: lol i am just now seeing where someone sent 38k ETH
to
the dao
mircea_popescu: showing off is more of a skill
than being a feminism professor. it
takes more work, and it is a more respectable accomplishment.
mircea_popescu: people who have contact with a lot of
them break
through
the "o, she's an idiot, how endearing" phase of single-mating-male and become deeply irritated by even a faint hint of
the well described idiocies.
think of it much like how immune cascade/anaphilactic shock works.
mircea_popescu: well you wouldn't do all sorts of
things, principally because and since you'rfe not in
the business of doing
them.
mircea_popescu: you house
them in conditions slightly better
than
they house
themselves, which is 6 heads
to
the 3room apt.
mircea_popescu: at
the
time (mid 90s, ro) it wasn't in any sense overpriced.
mircea_popescu: then it got mainstreamized into "reality
tv" or someshit, a whole franchise.