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mircea_popescu: well, my recipient for this stuff is well empty, and i suspect it takes a while to refill.

mircea_popescu: jesus i didn't even read that one.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, asciilifeform's intake of c. s. lewis was in 1991, he was not printed afaik in su, but hey, perestroika, and suddenly translated and printed on toiletpaper and sold at fleamarket by crypto-evangiderps. brother picked up the series, i barfed on vol.2 where lion jizzus dies 'for our sins', fin.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:31 mircea_popescu: there's a bit in the piece i am working right now which i'd like to reference ehre.

mircea_popescu: i said!

Mocky: was shooting for half a dozen trades, but got an introduction to local trader via meat wot and I mentioned the total I'm selling

mod6: (one of these days I gotta try out your miner.)

a111: Logged on 2018-09-06 02:25 ben_vulpes: i believe it's topologically identical to a call option that doesn't expire with a strike price of the "per share price".

mod6: im so hungry i could eat a sandwich from the gas station

mod6: It took some time, and I don't even begin to claim that I know -everything-, but I'm learning each time, and getting better at it. Kuddos to him for doing that.

mod6: I'd like to commend ben_vulpes on his instructions that he gave to Pizarro for how to do the monthly report. It really got me through it -- and made it easy.

ben_vulpes: i'm mock offended at the notion i'd let a liability kick around off sheet

ben_vulpes: not as far as i can recall.

mod6: I kinda had forgotten that we did shares. Just had it in my mind that we owed you 1 BTC as of Feb 1. or something.

ben_vulpes: i believe it's topologically identical to a call option that doesn't expire with a strike price of the "per share price". ☟︎

ben_vulpes: should i exercise them, the corporation takes in the btc i pay for them and adds them to the cap table.

mod6: oh i'm cocking this all up arnt i.

mod6: No, not at all. I just don't want it to go unanswered either. For insance, it'd be fine with me (asciilifeform?) to simply just take 41`666 shares instead. mircea_popescu can we do that?

ben_vulpes: mod6: i'm pretty sure that we're all squared up.

mod6: Hmm, well, I didn't want to just leave it out there forever, unanswered either. So, let me know what you want to do, and we'll discuss in here.

mod6: Oooh, I see what it is. In the charter you were to be assigned 100`000 SSW at a per share price of 0.00001 BTC each.

mod6: Really? I'm almost certain that somewhere we said 1 BTC for doing the manager role.

ben_vulpes: not that i want to not get paid, but i don't recall a previous agreement

mod6: That's what I was thinking ya. So instead of 1 BTC for a whole year, as previously agreed, we'd pay ya for the months that you served.

mod6: Also, another bit of news: I've completed a draft of the Pizarro report. We're needed three more pieces of information and a second pair of eyes for review before it can be published. We're on it.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 14:21 asciilifeform: mod6: i have not forgotten your item; currently drowning in saecular liquishit, but expecting to get to it today

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1848012 << I lel'd ☝︎

mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, well, I'll have him give it a try then.

mircea_popescu: i imagine one could.

mod6: The exception will be, I will invoice BingoBoingo myself as one can not invoice himself (at least, I don't think you can)?

mod6: BingoBoingo will begin sending out invoices within 24 hours, for the month of September. If you need a price quote before they go out, I can arrange that.

mod6: I propose that's what we pay ben_vulpes for his services; five months, February through June. And, I propose a possible consulting fee for his assistance on the books going forward.

mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~, the ML is back up and running. I just want to formally post the State of Bitcoin Address for August: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-September/000309.html

asciilifeform: btw interestingly, the most recent uboot ~builds~ on ave1's gnat, if one comments out the boobytrap. ( whether the resulting turd ~runs~, i do not yet know, but it builds without eggog)

asciilifeform: trinque: i picture something like emerge, but has own package set, consisting of vtrees

asciilifeform: really i fucking hate uboot, it is a ridiculously overmovingparted crock of shit

mircea_popescu: could just use older ver ? of uboot i mean.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is pioneering internet work, as far as i know never before seen. 1. "here are your options" "omfg i am a special snowflake i won't take any of those" ; 2. "you have no options" "omfg i shoulds have some options!!" "you had."

mircea_popescu: i'm just being intolerable for the sake of it. "good thing you have them, they don't work."

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had'em for the ice40 thing, which demands such horrors as python3 etc

asciilifeform: i.e. i was not able to build uboot on ANY of my boxen, even on the toilets where gcc5+ exists

asciilifeform: in other noose, trad-gentoo's crossdev is completely rotten nao, tries to build glibc-2.27 (which is broken, as it won't build with any version of 'ld' i was able to find, full stop) EVEN WHEN YOU CROSSDEV ....linux-musl !!

nicoleci: mircea_popescu, I can believe that a couple of rentacops sucked you off, but if it is not a true story - as you said (even in the title), then how does it all connect?

idint: ah okay, i understood what's you're about, just another typical deliberate cunts found on freenode.

mircea_popescu: teh age of "hi i am mario of so-and-so fiat concern" ended sometime this summer. talk to a lord, make yourself useful, #trilema is not open to the general public.

idint: should i stay on this channel if i am interested?

idint: yes i am concerned about privacy questions and would like to know what's this channel is about

nicoleci: diana_coman, ahh good point. ill keep that in mind, if i ever do find someone who can read the text

diana_coman: nicoleci, it might help to start looking at it from the other end: figure out what makes an effective policeman in the given context, compare it with what the "exam" actually tests even in the best case and then see how it fits otherwise with reality in the field; then again, I guess finding someone to read that 1 post might be faster at least

nicoleci: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1848018 i don't get it, are you saying women can't be policemen? ☝︎

asciilifeform: when chinese tanks on harvard lawn, then i expect yes will brought other way. but not until.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun recall 1 single case of 'd00d kidnapped from orcistan, brought to washington, tried, ...and then acquitted'

mircea_popescu totally sees it, signing a "i deeply regret all these usg politrucks did not see the wisdow in time" eventually.

asciilifeform: i fughet

mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i'm vaguely curious how long until scholarship comes to senses, puts hitler where he belongs -- in lengthy line of peasant revolt leaders, with calvin, gh. doja, what have you.

mircea_popescu: and who did v i ilyin shoot ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i parsed elliott et al as a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-22#1843703 case ☝︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe that happened. the difference i propose is that for him, said "butchering" is an asimptote, the mind never quite reaches it. which is how they end up believing that "i pick up gun and start shooting" is the ~end~ state.

mircea_popescu: i suspect something like http://trilema.com/2012/in-atentia-igppa-autodenunt/ & http://trilema.com/2015/peripateticists-kinda-except-girls-not-boys-bare-cunt-instead-of-toga-and-walking-around-the-house-not-the-garden-but-otherwise-exactly-the-same/ may be controlling. mp knows full well that he can butcher for no reason and with no consequence ; and will to make a point. but this is utterly inconceivable to elliott, who trul

mircea_popescu: in any case, it might be that the "decolonialization" sudden failure of europe has had the undiagnosed effect of removing fundamental mechanisms required for male maturation, leaving a sort of unstable state. perhaps the case is boys could manage just fine, if there was some sort of resource available to explain that... i don't even know, whatever the fuck, that it's ok to be a boy and it'll work out in the end.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 16:43 Mocky: holy shit, an hour ago i was eating waffles and now i'm going to qatar

a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:27 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect (tho cannot know) that douchebag understood that he was useless , and took refuge in religion.

mircea_popescu: well, there's that old "as i became a man i put the things of childhood aside". "something else", you know ? not a girl, no, but who knows what terror ?! ☟︎

asciilifeform: i thought 'trans' was simply crossdresser deceived by quack doctors that he can haz usable synthetic cunt etc

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I recall that specific complaint mainly as repeatedly cited by you; but other than that I thought it was already quite pervasive issue basically

asciilifeform: 'wtf, i ate 500 walrus, what is wrong with you'

mircea_popescu: neah ; for one thing the "i r lion" fury people shy away whereas the "i r girl" "trans" people seek the limelight.

asciilifeform: i parse it as 100% chukcha 'sympathetic magic' -- 'eat heart of walrus, become great swimmer'

asciilifeform: i can't properly picture what is inside the head of the sufferer, but imagine that 'if i dress up correctly, the gods will take pity and wave magic wand' or how else.

mircea_popescu: i suppose ; though it does not seem related.

asciilifeform: ah no, i haven't the faintest notion that i know the first thing about these.

mircea_popescu: oh i thought we were talking "transsexuals" / tulpas/ we

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: douche struck me as the type who 'invested' -- i.e. 'whaddayeamean you have no use for my 313337 web20 h4xx0r sk1llz, whatddayeamean go and learn asm or whatnot, you may as well be telling me that wagner, cyanide'

mircea_popescu: incidentally, the whole "faux transvestite" a la brendafernandez, "i'm a boy who likes girls but not like a man, so how about i dress up like a girl and we frolic ?" is very much this "what if i could girl also ? discover one day mywhole prior life was a fake" etc.

diana_coman: ah, I can see that; I'd put it simply: boy attaches a way higher cost to "being wrong"

mircea_popescu: diana_coman ah, i just meant the minor side point of "competent at wrong thing".

mircea_popescu: but anyway, i would dare propose the fundamental difference is that the boy absolutely needs to maintain throughout a certain feeling of continuancy, a certain notion that he's still a person, that something from his past nevertheless even today stands, that his retrospective history is somehow interpretable as "having a red thread running through it". even if it were to change, it must be continuous.

asciilifeform: i suspect that the spark of sense in this thread, if there was one, has eluded asciilifeform . so ok.

mircea_popescu: there's a bit in the piece i am working right now which i'd like to reference ehre. ☟︎

diana_coman: basically nicoleci then "understood" she was NOT useless somehow? I don't quite follow

diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't know what that would be based on really or why you'd put it in

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect (tho cannot know) that douchebag understood that he was useless , and took refuge in religion. ☟︎

diana_coman: asciilifeform, he had *his* option to be part of tmsr and she had *her* option to be part of it; he did not take it on account of "but I earn money now and I'm building mah future at this great company" ; she took hers discarding the earn money now and this great company

a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:05 diana_coman: I'd just put side by side http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847919 with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 and leave it there for comparison by any interested parties

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847949 << possibly i'm think, but what is comparable here ? the 2 characters dun have same options, as treated at length in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847940 & elsewhere ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if 'privkey serum' were not a major research direction for the current mengeles

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> 1918 technoly lol, potassium chloride. i had an entire box, as a boy, FOR JUST THIS JUST IN CASE!!! << Ah, the old sodium free salt from the grocery store

mircea_popescu: 1918 technoly lol, potassium chloride. i had an entire box, as a boy, FOR JUST THIS JUST IN CASE!!!

asciilifeform: oh i have nfi which particular load.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 douchebag: Also the security firm I'm working on is expected to pull at least a half million dollars by december

a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 03:19 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847915 >> 'I was in a position in which I enforced company policy, hired, and fired as human resources and now no longer have an office with my name on the wall or any authority; however, I do have a 'cage', collar, and a really cute headband...' >> lol win, oblig >> 'Yea, a trooper of the forces who has run his own six horses!' (tm)(r)(kipling)

diana_coman: I'd just put side by side http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847919 with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 and leave it there for comparison by any interested parties ☝︎☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: mod6: i have not forgotten your item; currently drowning in saecular liquishit, but expecting to get to it today ☟︎

nicoleci: thank you, trinque - I am excited :)

lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 8 hours and 33 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Secular Texas related question I recieved for your laffs http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EnsvM/?raw=true

trinque: dunno that I share this static view of humans. gonna be interesting to see what she gets whipped into.

asciilifeform: i take it they dun waste their time with book-larnin' no moar..

mircea_popescu: i am most curious in how time shall grind it.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847915 >> 'I was in a position in which I enforced company policy, hired, and fired as human resources and now no longer have an office with my name on the wall or any authority; however, I do have a 'cage', collar, and a really cute headband...' >> lol win, oblig >> 'Yea, a trooper of the forces who has run his own six horses!' (tm)(r)(kipling) ☝︎☟︎