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ben_vulpes: no that's floride, which is just
as hallucinogenic
as nitrous
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform possibly more often
as time goes by ; because the problem of sorting things by topics is becoming more pressing.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-08 00:12 asciilifeform: and even not considering this absurdity, you would have same problem
as vasectomy patient (the sperm gets reabsorbed and your immune system begins to generate antibodies against it. with bonus measurable extra risk of alzheimer's)
mircea_popescu: anyway, think of all the great stuff blockchain technologies allows, guise! you could have like, a satoshi dice based aviator's club, whereby the men all put their house keys in a pile and the women pick from there
as previously, BUT whether the dick works or not is now blockchain lottery based!
mod6: it looked
as if someone lit off a M80 in her hand.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-09 15:12 asciilifeform: it is unfortunately also one of the weak points in mircea_popescu's original sketch,
as an enemy who turns up a 'for' binding signature can make an attribution of station ownership.
phf: we had a thread about it two weeks ago, where the conclusion was that gossipd
as written in the only available spec has all kinds of problems and shouldn't be implemented/used
mircea_popescu: come to think of it, is there such a thing
as a gossipd spec even ? what's the current canonical version ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu>
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160909/#23 << yes mod6 but to clarify : "one button" refers to the situation where the user already has a trusted copy of V, and a .sig directory populated
as per his taste. these are part of the definition of identity, and going forward can and should be assumed present. << Sounds fair. Thanks for outlining this.
mircea_popescu: but anyway - the greek idea of gods doesn't have them
as a sort of christian deity, omnipotent, all wise etc. it's not fucking allah.
mircea_popescu: but, importantly, statistics works on datapoints - which are each
as much a datapoint
as all the others ! this is major.
mircea_popescu: (note however that "statistical models" are so horrible in doing simple things such
as "election outcome" prediction
as to not lend much credence to this theory.)
mircea_popescu: in the sense of how we implemented log bots that work, on the basis of whatever was there before, which apparently didn't work, or at least didn't work
as well or w/e.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-09: [12:36:29] <mircea_popescu> except a working model of 1 is already both deployed and theoretically understood,
as described above.
mircea_popescu: except a working model of 1 is already both deployed and theoretically understood,
as described above.
mircea_popescu: shinohai we'rte talking from the pov of the lord not the pleb here. priest does exactly
as told or else fucks goats in the receptive sense of the term.
mircea_popescu: it's my considered oppinion it does, if used
as above.
mircea_popescu: still, you know - most everything extant today started life
as a nodule on something else. nothing wrong with this in principle.
mircea_popescu: anyway. this "separation of concerns" objection would have a lot more meat on its imaginary bones if there actually eixsted any sort of gossipd.
as there doesn't, the objection has no legs to stand on.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160909/#23 << yes mod6 but to clarify : "one button" refers to the situation where the user already has a trusted copy of V, and a .sig directory populated
as per his taste. these are part of the definition of identity, and going forward can and should be assumed present.
pete_dushenski:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1537575 << this ties in very neatly the never-ending thread about the meaning and definition of intelligence, particularly the angle about 'intelligent' being best used to describe an individual's actions ex post facto. injun is a genius only for
as long
as his world is of low complexity. when whitey comes over and opens pandora's box on his ass, complexity explodes and
☝︎ pete_dushenski: petard, it's a rare treat for yours truly to be able to say
as much in this company.
pete_dushenski: strange market forces observation of the day : moving guys (ie. pure muscle) command the same going rate
as qualified plumbers (ie. skilled trade). perhaps both are equally scarce relative to demand, or else the mover's rates just appear higher due to higher-than-plumber overhead (trucks, mechanics, garages, etc.). either way, it's always fun to figure out how the cookie crumbles.
trinque: in no small part because V is utterly useful
as a tool on its own
phf: one day orcs perhaps will use it to last through the night,
as a kindle
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 21:58 mircea_popescu: wait, the clim authoritative spec exists
as a html ?!
mircea_popescu: ok let's approach it this way : what is so special about the make files that they get their own tree ? why not say, all .c files get their own, all .h files get their separate own ? inasmuch
as you can't use the makefiles without the sources, they belong in the same tree
as the sources.
mod6: Well, if it could be done without having to move anything that is already in place (
as far
as bitcoin is concerned), then it might work out alright.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 23:46 mod6: It was my first hunch, during a pre-emptive go around with this to not place the makefiles in with current source base --
as pressed out via V.
mod6: I think that keeping the Makefiles
as a separate V tree would keep things a lot more clean.
mod6: It was my first hunch, during a pre-emptive go around with this to not place the makefiles in with current source base --
as pressed out via V.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-09-06 23:27 trinque: all roads lead to make 50 billion dollars, then cry
as alf says it's not enough
BingoBoingo: One can also buy "power bars" in bulk and not regret their life choices
as they eat mostly read food with the occasional "power bar"
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [13:03:15] <mircea_popescu>
as seen yesterday
mircea_popescu: but more's the pojnt : even in very genetically diverse populations (such
as yurpeans, because colonialism! such
as not redskins, because stoneage losers), a good portion of the population has poor vaccine response.
mircea_popescu: (to explain the science involved : immunity works
as a multi layered interplay of numerous proteins. some recognize specific bits of cells - hopefully, pathogens only, or else autoimmune response - some mark these recognitions, some others further mark, it's a whole shebang.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [13:03:15] <mircea_popescu>
as seen yesterday
shinohai: I suppose ouput such
as this is designed to get more $$$ in defense spending or somesuch
mircea_popescu: the emotional color of "atmosphere" is exactly of the same origin
as the "feelings" furries perceive in animals' eyes : psychogenic.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don't buy into this "people good but evil govenrment corrupts".
as near
as i can see, "people suck and government does the best it can,
as their product."
mircea_popescu: it barely holds together
as a thing, and adversarially only.
mircea_popescu: the only difference being that khaleed started life pretending to, and here i quote, "I am one of the agents sent by the high priest to bring
as many of those who are interested in becoming a member of the Illuminati to the great Illuminati temple,am a traditional herbalist healer and no problem without a solution to me but I was ones like you I could not evening feed my family what kind of life was that to live I lived in po
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, re the derp circus :
as long
as you publish on the internet, there's going to be some "businessman" trying to republish your content, and spam it around. none of this is particulary surprising or worth the mention or anything. not like original publication isn't firmly established. so let them beat up the wall until they've had enough or the bezzle runs out, whichever.
shinohai: Would be funny to translate that
as "You will now be destitute"
Framedragger: of course of course; but
as was stated multiple times, it's about making things more *difficult* / costly for adversaries. you can always slippery slope into "such powerful adversary with infinite motivation" and win the argument - and that's legit, sure
trinque: you do realize also that freenode might
as well be owned by hitler
mircea_popescu: not worried
as much
as you know, "they care about us" sorta delusion.
mircea_popescu: anyway. hyenas are not cats, like lions are, but dogs. even if they've adapted into
as much catness
as possible. so the two aren't actually sexually compatible.
mircea_popescu: this is no small matter,
as lions will kill hyenas unprovoked.
mircea_popescu: but yes, part of hte problem with extant c,
as a language but more importantly
as a paradigm and society, is that there's no way to build trust.
mircea_popescu really has little use for the shit currently shipping with c
as a stdlib.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, asciilifeform : we'll end up with a v-stdlib won't we ? prolly starting with v-cryptolib
as a nucleus.
Framedragger: but in all seriousness, i'm a bit afraid, but it may be good education for me. not that i see this
as a game to be fucked up at the first step
mircea_popescu: in general people working on the same (large enough
as you said) codebase should have the courtesy to use the same spacing and coding conventions etc.
mircea_popescu: i am willing to bet you that in any case
as we imagine ehre, where two competent coders rushed like teenage athletes to stripper cunt and each implemented slighly variant solutions to the same problem,
mircea_popescu: (incidentally - "conflicts",
as a git/github concept are both a) a direct equivalent of doublespends and b) a very convenient and for this reason perhaps deliberate rock under which to hide from responsibility
mircea_popescu: the advantages of V remain, such
as automatic conflict resolution.
Framedragger: shit, i just got what you're trying to say - i'm slow. it's only a publishing mechanism. how to collaborate internally is another matter. yes, nice separation of concerns. (though i suspect people have thought how to do proper collaboration in V
as well - emails with vdiffs etc)
mircea_popescu: so collaboration, inasmuch
as it's a private act (your tulpas, your friends, w/e) needn't be on v ; just like it needn't be on github, or on git. lots of code development happens on the holy napkin.
Framedragger: 2) while automatic merges mask deeper problems (
as trinque may have implied) and may or may not be cancer, having many developers be able to work on the same codebase and later easily solve code conflicts is fucking *great*
Framedragger: ftr there's now a kind of deployment process so i have to make changes in dev branch, make a commit, and then pull from a separate repo which has the dev branch
as its upstream. AND I LIKE IT THAT WAY!!1
ascii_zimbabwe: and not,
as is not hard to guess, because lacking the pipes.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell asciilifeform it's either a short church hymn or (
as used here) the "general rule".