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mircea_popescu: that's the overawing important point -- the reason we are so damned good today has a lot to do with what lispers call repl and biologists call genetics. if you can get a recurring loop going you'll probably win.

mod6: *nod*. The file I've got in front of me is a good start to such a reoccring information passing. It's genereated dozens of questions from me; once I have them answered, I'll send it around. This will also help BB get up to speed on what is what early.

mircea_popescu: possibly have a file with all the stuff you want to send people (because this process of -- think of it -- do something about it! has a lot of merit to it). but if you just >> alf.txt and then once a day or once a week or w/e >> gpg -aer alf and >> p.bvulpes.com then you get it all.

mircea_popescu: you know, far be it from me to hassle you folk about your fine organisation ; but it occurs to me, on the butress of experience, that you're running a very wasteful process in that every.single.god.damned.thing produces an interrupt. there should be some queues and some batching, you can't ping someone every.single.time.anything.occurs. yes ?

asciilifeform: ( and iirc we already have a thread in the l0gz where mircea_popescu 'they could! be trained to do technical works but i would not waste prime chix on soul-rotting butugychag' , so no particular reason to review unless mircea_popescu feels like )

mircea_popescu: if i take http://trilema.com/2018/it-came-out/ cutie for a sea trip and it has the misfortune of coming to life 500 miles out, it'll still fly over the ocean looking. and so must you, because until you're dead you don't know you're dying.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the nigerians were looking for a stupid. there's a fundamental difference between self-limiting and self-expanding things ; and i propose the nigerians aren't a relevant model at all.

asciilifeform: theoretically yes. and hey, the nigerians took it to a high art in the '90s.

a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:09 mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?

a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:09 asciilifeform: then , BingoBoingo : plox to power down rk 'A' and insert its stick into dulap , for reimaging, when subscr expires

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read the 'how things have changed' piece and from the opening 'Six years ago that was even correct ; but meanwhile consider' expected a 'seawater uranium mining nao +ev' but turns out nope ; moar hieroglyphic sluts ? or what am i missing

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: controlled techno-regress (e.g. in this case, from alphabets to hieroglyphs) is a perennial obsession among the jwz folx , the same people want to mandate earth latrines instead of watercloset, BingoBoingo's butane cycle fridge , etc. notion being, i suspect, 'wind back the clock to when we mattered'

mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, accurate glyph for lol would have to include sound" "so ?" "so we can't do that" "you can't do any of the other shits you're doing either..." "but a limit must be drawn!" "no, motherfucker. a limit must be drawn alphabet existed already. you're the no limits may be drawn crowd. fucking hang by your own petard, lol is a face emitting sound as glyph!"

asciilifeform: very limited damage can be done by sheer ineptitude from a mp-wp , afaik .

mircea_popescu: i don't suspect she'd be in the slightest malicious ; but i also don't expect she ever controlled a box. for all i know it's an open relay.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if your pet can operate a mp-wp, can use, why not

asciilifeform: then , BingoBoingo : plox to power down rk 'A' and insert its stick into dulap , for reimaging, when subscr expires ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ? ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu will unrate, i suspect the point is made and i really don't give that much of a shit.

mod6: asciilifeform: mats is a pizarro customer, he has paid through july. however, we need to consider letting him stay a customer since:

mircea_popescu: why the fuck would i. strikes me a lot like "breaking up". who the fuck does that, what, i'm monogamous now ?!

mircea_popescu: the puritan low-volume-comms thing is generally a losing strategy, both socially and personally, but ESPECIALLY so here.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837476 << more generally, actually : that you're so fucking private about what's doubtless a public point of concern, namely the strange case of the conversion of a member of the republic's lordship smells to me of a colossal wasted opportunity. ☝︎

ben_vulpes: otherwise one implies timeless energy-dragon crystalline perfection of self, which is a falsehood.

ben_vulpes: to point at your evolution as a human being over time, for one

danielpbarron: i have the article marked private, maybe when i have a new one to link i'll ask about doing that. but i think their point was if you don't believe it anymore why even have it there?

danielpbarron: yeah i'm not a huge fan of the deleting part, but it was a point of contention among the fellowship

ben_vulpes: whttp://trilema.com/2018/in-which-a-bizarre-character-wanks-it/#selection-537.0-553.158 also

asciilifeform: will admit, the only psychiatric model that makes half a sense to asciilifeform , re subj, is 'i'ma put hand in woodchipper to spite mother, that'll show' etc

mircea_popescu: a

asciilifeform: iirc Funkenstein remains the unbeaten recordsman there ( operated, at least at 1 point, a shitfork based on cribbed trb )

BingoBoingo: Well, going for a hash fork would be an obvious troll

asciilifeform: a+++ trololol, eh. i'm almost surprised he didn't go with the shitforks, for extra spice.

trinque: the "profile" is a giant wad of optionality about global portage state. I think the right move to make the portage-tree genesis as small as possible is to select *one* thing from the optionality, and then re-introduce options atop that as we see fit (for arm support, for example)

trinque: diana_coman: glad to hear your success with it. what's left on my end is to smash the gentoo profile we're using into a single dir. you can find these at /usr/portage/profile , which weighs about 20mb iirc.

a111: Logged on 2018-07-23 10:24 spykedbot: a taia frunza la ciini, -- a sta cu miinile/ bratele incrucisate: to sit on one's hands

mircea_popescu: spyked the "is a neet" thing suggests some merging with http://trilema.com/republican-thesaurus/

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837152 <-- ohhh yeah, /me remembers the three days of ai megapiece. I'll put this in teh queue. even a simple heuristic, e.g. ranking entries by number of matching words and displaying the one with the highest score, would be better than current dumb search. seems like a good middle point between exact matching and "statistical learning". ☝︎

spykedbot: a taia frunza la ciini, -- a sta cu miinile/ bratele incrucisate: to sit on one's hands ☟︎

spyked: to pop another arbitrary example: "taie frunza la caini" is directly translated as "cuts leaves to dogs". dunno if this makes any sense to native en speakers, but on the other hand "lazes about" or "is a neet" is immediately understood, especially in context.

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837147 <-- gah, sorry for the abstruseness. more explicitly: the bot goes through each line in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ro_eng_expr.txt and if it finds one for which the query is a substr of the entry, it displays the definition. not very effective, it's intended as a very simple (<100 lines of code) demo for next trilemabot patch. but imho there's room for improving it even without adding google ☝︎

asciilifeform: nobody bothered to sit down and try and derive, etc, they evidently went 'let's crib from ancient su lore', without skipping a beat

a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 02:42 asciilifeform: 'they cloink a coupla with the sledgehammer so as to break down the find into shards the size they can fit in a pocket, after which they stick it on their oxcart'

asciilifeform: the height of the plastic insulators suggests that they're throwing a coupla kV across it ( for 5-10kW of output )

asciilifeform: tho conceivably a correct triangle of ordinary hf antenna wire, worx .

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tricky bit is shape, rather than material ( and for quarter-wave , you need a 2-3 metre on the wide end thing )

mircea_popescu: in ro "botanista" (always a girl) denotes the cheap whore that sucks you off in the bushes. (yes, whoredom is stratified, doh.)

asciilifeform: tho there's a lulzy false cognate in modern ru, ботан ( orig short 'botanist' ) but in effect learned fool, 'dweeb'

mircea_popescu: exactly as you say : great way to feed a fambly.

asciilifeform: ( i suppose they work a+++ for the intended purpose -- printolade vacuum , dissertation mint )

mircea_popescu: "BICEP3 consists of a single telescope with the same 2560 detectors (observing at 95 GHz) as the five-telescope Keck array, but a 68 cm aperture [...] began collecting data on 15 May 2016."

mircea_popescu: you know it's like, 5th installment iirc just got brought up a few years ago

asciilifeform: lulzily enuff, found $subj during dig for whether anybody ever built a uwb antenna for hf ( 0-30MHz ). ( spoiler : nobody, publicly, as It Would Be Wrong (tm)(r) per hitler decree )

mircea_popescu: this is not even a weak observation.

mircea_popescu: "Second, now theory develops into a FAMILY theories. When one member of the family is killed, the survival members will quickly mutate to accommodate the killing data, such as M-string theory, SUSY, multiverse and the inflation scenarios. That is, the Popperianism is now totally USELESS."

mircea_popescu: the one remaining fundamental (magnetism) is mediated by something so fucking ready to take wave frorm it was in fact discussed as a wave from the get go, and supported the early understanding of the item that later turned out to be a fundamental manifestation of interaction mediators (teh wave).

mircea_popescu: anyway, as to the substantive matter, it's pretty well established by now that gravity, if indeed mediated, is not mediated by something that readily assumes a wave form.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very true. kinda why we;re even here, "helpless as blind kittens" very much a thing in "technical" cucks.

asciilifeform: 'Eric Adelberger, one if the leaders of the group, “found Weber’s experiment to be completely unconvincing and realized that with a modest effort we could test his claim” (private communication).'

mircea_popescu: "That was also my first interaction with a woman named Rachel, and we’ll get back to her later! Lot’s to cover here." bwahahaha i'm all ears

phf: asciilifeform: will do, my thing detects, but it still lets it through issuing a warning

asciilifeform: wouldn't surprise me if it is being passed around, contextless, in heathendom, as 'make a gentoo sans systemd' pill.

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: 'He’s heard of the Republic, hasn’t gotten around to registering a key yet. Even brought his gentoo laptop to my site this year to pick my brain. I complimented him on having GCC < 5. Thing even had Stanislav’s crapolade mask file! ' << ha.

deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2018/a-true-church-at-porcfest-in-review/ << Daniel P. Barron - A True Church at PorcFest, in Review

asciilifeform: ( if label is to be believed, genuine taiyo yuden a+++ )

asciilifeform: ^ i still have a crate of those caps. if yer an l1 , you can have some for cost of postage.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in a honest morning's work, https://78.media.tumblr.com/ab715c5a1922c87850848fa86630fe17/tumblr_mwjcrqoL9b1qaoeoqo2_500.gif

asciilifeform: jurov's thing gets me a 'Signature verification on clearsigned text failed, discarding. Review the message in your sent mail folder for wordwrap or similar mutilations of clearsigned text' despite the fact that i used the www front end ( therealbitcoin.org/mailman/post/btc-dev ) and attached all 3 as attachment

mod6: yeah, happens to me quite a bit too.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interesting. tho 1 nitpick -- voltmeter quite useless for distinguishing dead bios battery, erry 3v lithium cell i've ever thrown out, measured to ~3v ( just drops to 0 if you put a load on it )

mircea_popescu: moreover, god's own voltmeter revealed that the ~spare~ was as dead as a plain quarter ; whereas the item in the mobo originally was quite rhubarby.

mircea_popescu: would ~not even post!~. i dug up through the piles of forgotten disused shit until i found a speaker thingee. it had no beeps to make.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in sad news of hardware, i had to power down a motherboard that had been going for a long, LONG time. and then... it wouldn't come back up.

mircea_popescu: curl prolly also getting ablated, but a thing at a time.

mircea_popescu: in other probably good news, there's hope there's gonna be a gpr eulora server next week. inconceivably enough the whole thing can apparently be beaten into obedience.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: problem turned out to be in email sending end . he 'fixed' by emplacing a www file uploader thing, which i've used ever since.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also notice that jurov's thing was very strict for a long time, and you threw a hissy fit every time! nomoar of that, either!

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 16:23 asciilifeform: the 'postel's law' nonsense, of silently forgiving people who send liquishit at the dusty disused corners of the protocol, enabling there to even ~be~ such a thing as dusty corners in a protocol!, MUST die.

mircea_popescu: i was about to say, it's about damn time we start taking http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779522 a whole lot more seriously. ☝︎

ben_vulpes: there is always "evil mode" if you don't want to spend a month programming your own chords up front trolololol

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: observe, phf is the only one with a trooly , properly strict vtron, rejects non-uuencoded sigs.

ben_vulpes: lobbes: you have the thing running in a repl, right?

a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 16:56 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in re: output of archaeology dig re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-05#1831796, and in particular http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1732905 : turns out, the orig theoretical model was a 1989 su item, kostylev & astanin's 'основы сверхширокополосных радиолокационных измерений' . then in early 2000s anglo academitards picked it up, and in 2009 subj 'died' after usg dictate 'i

BingoBoingo: Aite, the apartment now has a plant

asciilifeform: lulzy how 'seekrit wunderwaffen' academiban leaves black hole a mile wide that can be seen with naked eye in broad daylight.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837161 << possibly in the folder of "secret nobus of the future". which yes is a thing ☝︎

asciilifeform: basic idea, however buried under mountain of paper rubbish, is deadly simple : instead of periodic wave, you send shaped bursts of 'static' that cover entire $band ( ideally, below noise floor ); on other side, receiver has a correspondingly-shaped filter. pulse position encoding + luby etc. for receive.

asciilifeform: mprisoned' uwb to a uselessly short wavelength ( 2-4GHz, with a dip at 3 to 'avoid interfere with gps' ). the academitards naturally bent over backwards , killing whole forest printing paperola re 'optimal fcc-compliant gaussian pulse generation', some konsoomer crud was sold with 'uwb' to transmit vga over 3-4 metres in a room, and that was that.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in re: output of archaeology dig re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-05#1831796, and in particular http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1732905 : turns out, the orig theoretical model was a 1989 su item, kostylev & astanin's 'основы сверхширокополосных радиолокационных измерений' . then in early 2000s anglo academitards picked it up, and in 2009 subj 'died' after usg dictate 'i ☝︎☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: (something very similar was the original impetuus for mp asking ben_vulpes for candi [where is she btw ?] only to then discover after a whole day of basic-training-with-admirals that in fact the memory footprint for what i had in mind was ~infinite) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: now, for obvious reasons direct substitution engine on basis of dictionary list doesn't work -- language flexion, "a da de furca" becomes x DAU y DE FURCA and so on.

asciilifeform: hanbot: the thing dun googletranslated, it's simply a grep into http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-19#1740761 .txt ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 08:48 spykedbot: a da cuiva de furca: give smb. a gruelling time, to

hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837139 << ahaha did google translate make a pun?! ☝︎

diana_coman: give it a fork in the eye - might work

spykedbot: a da cuiva de furca: give smb. a gruelling time, to ☟︎

spyked: google translates this to "give it a fork". wtf.

spykedbot: a da de furca/ a da bataie de cap cuiva, a deranja/ a importuna pe cineva: to put smb. to trouble, to give smb. trouble

spyked: that makes sense. most of the sun blocked here is by a thick wall of trees outside the window.

mircea_popescu: spyked wait a second, i dun follow. so it's just a word-substituter from list ?