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asciilifeform: very british/tolkienian view, this
mircea_popescu: alternatively simply is not invited, can go on about his nonsense in his mom's basement while that lasts.
asciilifeform: it can only be read to him by other folks, in the only language he understands.
asciilifeform: the reading that suggests great inca is not sovereign over earth, fire, air and water, is never the preferred reading, no
mircea_popescu: somehow a plain reading is never within the purview of militant idiocy.
mircea_popescu: how about "if you lack the authority to detain people indefinitely THEREFORE you lack the authority to engage in any behaviour that may lead to it, including trying to prosecute this nonsense"
asciilifeform: e purposefully, but it is also possible for someone to genuinely forget it, and this is left to a judge to decide. If “failure to decrypt your device” leads to indefinite jail time, Kerr asked, is that an outcome we are willing to accept?' << mega-l0l
asciilifeform: 'Given the difficulty of opening a post-iOS 8 phone or a similarly protected device, investigators are now forced to turn to other methods. Kerr pointed to a case in the Third Circuit Court of Appeals of a former police officer allegedly dealing in child pornography who would not divulge his computer passcode; he is currently being detained with no clear end date. Kerr noted that it is quite possible for someone to withhold a passcod
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally BingoBoingo : it ~would~ be fair to say that the bitfinex failure as presented by bitfinex amounts exactly to a major failure of the dao as meagrely implemented in bitcoin. << Indeed, as presented
asciilifeform: ^ in case anyone ever had whatever doubt as to the meaning and purpose of multisigification of whatever sort.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure that'll work!
asciilifeform: spoiler: in the massive turd, usg functionaries propose to rebrand ye olde key escrow as 'multisig' and mandate! 'k of n' !
asciilifeform: ^ pity i missed this party
asciilifeform: 'The Workshop on Encryption and Mechanisms for Authorized Government Access to Plaintext was convened on June 23-24, 2016, in Washington, D.C., under the auspices of the Computer Science and Telecommunications Board of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. The workshop was sponsored by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI). ... The meeting was open to the public.'
asciilifeform: 'We wish to thank the following individuals for their review of these workshop proceedings:
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'Exploring Encryption and Potential Mechanisms for Authorized Government Access to Plaintext: Proceedings of a Workshop.' Anne Johnson, Emily Grumbling, and Jon Eisenberg, Rapporteurs. THE NATIONAL ACADEMIES PRESS 500 Fifth Street, NW Washington, DC 20001 This activity was supported by the Office of the Director for National Intelligence, under Contract.... ☟︎
asciilifeform: '1. Take site offline and work on ensuring everything is secure. 2. communicate to users 3. contact chain analytic companies and authorities about the hack and trace the funds, look at ways to recover the funds. 4. Investigate exactly what happened to ensure that we're still not vulnerable. 5. Work on getting the site back up and running.'
shinohai: Buttstamp: "We would like to reassure all customers that Bitstamp's implementation of multisig is fundamentally different from the one at Bitfinex"
mircea_popescu: or maybe you're the uploader!!!1
shinohai: mircea_popescu: maybe they use the same metrics counter as twitter does.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: illustrations to winnie pooh.
mircea_popescu: which one is this one again ?
asciilifeform: should've laid off the whiskey.
phf: it's ugh the Alaskan yellow bear
mircea_popescu: anyway, if my dungeon videos ever leak there's going to be a ~100mn or so new cases of apoplexy that year ?
phf: 40 seconds in, i switched from watching that video to watching an old soviet cartoon..
mircea_popescu: what is this ?
asciilifeform: (the correct brown? or the jaundiced disney yellow)
asciilifeform: it is almost as good a test as what colour winnie pooh is, in a given country
mircea_popescu: iirc ro upper crust still sings o tannenbaum at teh tree
asciilifeform: but ported to, say, spanish, long ago
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that thing is almost a litmus test for anglo penetration
mircea_popescu: do these idiots not have a language or what the fuck is their problem already.
mircea_popescu: and to add insult to injury they do all sort of complicated ceremonial futzing around some catered looking cake prior to singing HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
mircea_popescu: the woman i sat down to watch it with was ALL NUDE! who the fuck cares omfg the tamest stht ever
asciilifeform: i watched a few min, it was a snore, turned off
mircea_popescu: holy shit these idiots! ITS A TOPLESS WOMAN AT A POOL PARTY!
mircea_popescu: so i finally got around to watching that thai prince orgy video thing.
phf: yeah, put that blog of mine to some use
phf: i'm writing subs for girl, because official english translation is awful
shinohai: http://archive.is/9ceV1 <<< so much for Telegram
asciilifeform: lovely thing.
phf: asciilifeform: just a reminder that this exists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZodexUkiDI
ben_vulpes: so what actually happened with the multisig shits?
mircea_popescu: i guess what i'm saying is that i admire your patience.
asciilifeform: every so often i wrestle with the pig, old habit.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what nobody on a stick's idea of anything is.
mircea_popescu: all this "you hurt your credibility" wanl
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly i don't comprehend why you entertain the tards above and beyond "honey, close your eyes and think of the empire", but each his own i guess.
mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo : it ~would~ be fair to say that the bitfinex failure as presented by bitfinex amounts exactly to a major failure of the dao as meagrely implemented in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see, there's wisdom in all things
mircea_popescu: this is shaping up to being a pretty great autumn really.
mod6: "just imagine that these things don't exist. see, all better now!"
asciilifeform: else idiots may get to keep their coinz
asciilifeform: and to be encouraged.
asciilifeform: aaalso apparently multisig is really a beautiful thing
shinohai: Also, I think I'd use doorknob and string before visiting a dentist in that building.
shinohai: I read that sign as "Spammed Travel" mircea_popescu
shinohai: ;;later tell thestringpuller How 'bout that steem vs. ETC chart
shinohai: More lulz: "There were a number of security practices that were in place to make this the most secure, yet transparent way of securing funds and we used the company that prides itself and specializes in bitcoin storage. How these practices were bypassed, we're still investigating."
mircea_popescu: "insurance that never existed doesn't cover loss of funds we never had"
BingoBoingo: Forgot the forgettable but obligatory diff change piece
mircea_popescu: what's that make it for today, 5 ?
shinohai: Well they *were* in p2sh addresses
mircea_popescu: it's not unlikely hong kong announcing today someone hacked their geography made off with mainland china.
mircea_popescu: shinohai best remember to mention that these are the bitcoins they claimed to have but at never point throughout the run ever actually held.
phf: mircea_popescu: "рубить", "топор" has a very nice sound to it in russian, which is that of something crude, rough, but also to the point. can string a few of those together with a lot of breaks and pauses to get a feeling of "honest" crudeness or somesuch
shinohai: Oh wait that's the Director of Community and Product Development for Bitfinex.
shinohai: trinque: this is why I said "supposed" http://archive.is/03EF0
mircea_popescu: hatchet in romanian, yeah. except there's also "om din topor" ie "man of the hatchet", which just means a crude fellow.
mircea_popescu: wtf is topor mean in russian
phf: he was really good at playing working class revolutionary, in the old tradition of "going native", just look at him https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3385/3635935907_817fa1e408.jpg. his whole style is that of мужицкий топор and he used his refined ear to play it very nicely, found it very surprising when the топор just kept chopping on its own
mircea_popescu: hey, if they can name a school/street/urinal a pushkin, what's to keep them from naming a gulag v maiakovski
shinohai: Supposed tally of Buttfinex hack: 119,756 BTC
phf: i dunno, i think you can blame mayakovsky for gulags
mircea_popescu: but he's that measure that doesn't dare speak its name.
mircea_popescu: an orwell of bedwetting is defined as that quantity of bedwetting sufficient to give a wilde of a woman a single white hair.
asciilifeform: lel. how many litres is that
mircea_popescu: or even the recently discussed descartes.
mircea_popescu: tho the aquinas would prolly work better.
asciilifeform: and let's say i propose 'the aristotle' as a unit of tautological circularity.
mircea_popescu: you know, like measuring skin tone by the obama. what, he made melanin ?
mircea_popescu: and note that naming the tolkien for tolkien isn't blaming him for the gulag. merely recognising his intricacy in the civilisation-masquerading-as-a-culture that spawned him.
mircea_popescu: oh, i forgot in that enumeration : the tsyan, intelligence measure. named for the... militsyan
mircea_popescu: Adevărat „copil al secolului” Vladimir Maiakovski este poetul care „a săvârșit una dintre cele mai mari revoluții literare cunoscute de istoria literaturii universale.” << sez ro.shittypedia, so must be tru.
mircea_popescu: there's a quanta of energy, a token of friendship and a tolkien of usg.aspie h&d.
trinque: mircea_popescu │ ah sweet it puts the deed bundles in here now ? << sho nuff
mircea_popescu: and i'd expect he does it by the tolkien.
mircea_popescu: shinohai it's a toss-up whether it can't produce great stories because no ads or because being mean.
mircea_popescu: ah sweet it puts the deed bundles in here now ?
deedbot: [Qntra] Yet Another Underwhelming Effort To Fork Bitcoin Unveiled - http://qntra.net/2016/08/yet-another-underwhelming-effort-to-fork-bitcoin-unveiled/
shinohai: "Ads are being blocked. For us to continue writing great stories, we need to display ads." <<< guess this is why Qntra can't produce great stories.
mircea_popescu: right. i thought it happened again, woulda been almost trollage.
asciilifeform: when the first keys popped.
mircea_popescu: i'm confused. did they just do this, ie, now ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 04:39 asciilifeform: with 'why japanese toilets did not catch on in america!'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: original phuctor story on that site was manually replaced with 'japanese toilets' link
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hn.png << 'why japanese toilets did not catch on in usa' in 3, 2, 1....
ben_vulpes: what's that?
mircea_popescu: there are no tickers