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mircea_popescu: i do. but it is how people are enticed to read code , and think about what they read.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu knows that this is not how crypto strength is established.
asciilifeform: eh folks have been 'putting it in things' since '80s
mircea_popescu: at least that's my best guess atm.
mircea_popescu: it won't get out of it unless and until we start putting it in things.
asciilifeform: the unfortunate bit is that 'hash research' is presently not even yet at alchemy level, and stuck somewhere between haruspicy and astrology.
mircea_popescu: (and for the governance-minded log reader : yeah, the above is literally me in my capacity as ceo making a strategic choice that puts the best interest of shareholders second, after the interest of the republic. it literally subsidizes republican research at the expense of s.mg's bottom line. not only is this common in my practice - i hold it to be both required and unavoidable, and if "that's not how you'd run a corp" you're
mircea_popescu: afaik nobody to date deployed keccak on any sort of large scale anything for any purpose over any duration. unless someone else knows ?
mircea_popescu: ie, it'd be silly to correctly engineer this system in the sense of minimalism, as we're more interested in it testing our tools.
mircea_popescu: there's also a subtle point here, which is : that if we indeed use a otp-and-hash scheme, this in fact puts whatever hash scheme we use to work.
mircea_popescu: anyway : the rsa/otp scheme is also bw-wasting, up to a factor of 2 if no hashing, or otherwise depending on how many hash passes, with 20 it's just 1.05 ie 5% more bw etc.
asciilifeform: i'ma put this in the pipe.
mircea_popescu: worth checking this, if you have an actual c implementation anywhere.
asciilifeform: the only aspect of rsa that actually takes palpable time on a modern box is key gen.
mircea_popescu: yeah there are some advantages. but half second is too much to delay a game message for encryption, and you won't be able to fit two passes in .5 s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'rsa the actual message back and forth' << not same. for instance, if you have the pump going at all times, it can be cache-local.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand that if you never hash them, you might as well not use them at all and simply rsa the actual message back and forth. as appealing as the idea is in theory, it's not workable in practice because even with a game as relaxed as eulora, it'll still be too laggy.
mircea_popescu: PeterL reusing an otp straight makes bothering with the whole scheme kinda pointless ; hashing an old otp to generate a new otp is perhaps dubious, but in widespread use. (it's more or less what a "deterministic" wallet is, for instance)
PeterL: wasteful to pass N bytes of otp for each N bytes of message?
PeterL: Anybody else watch olympic opening ceremony? There was about a minute of fun brazillian dancing and hours of boringness and a stupid tribute to global warming. Bleh.
asciilifeform: quite like what, e.g., gpg does, but in ~batches~ ahead of time.
asciilifeform: which is then tapped into when actually sending payloads.
asciilifeform: PeterL: mircea_popescu's original suggestion was to transfer properly random messages, via rsa, continuously, thereby keeping a supply of otp warm on both sides
PeterL: ok, nevermind then
asciilifeform: the idiot reservation is the next door
PeterL: would be better than just reusing the one otp over a bunch of times?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-06 14:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's your call, because the matter is quite acute : is it a safer system to demand 8kb entropy/second and hash 12 times ? or to demand say 128bytes/second and hash 768 times ?
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-06#1515904 << idea: transfer random series a and b of length A and B where A and B are co-prime, session key is the series {(a[i%A] XOR b[i%B]) for i in [0, AxB]} ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, gotta make sure one expropriates the socialists in the proper manner such is done. ie, as they themselves do it.
mircea_popescu: the principle is fundamental to any such activity. the usg will obviously still owe on all its obligations, such as social security. it will however not have any right to perceive any income. and anyone involved is personally responsible - with their own fat, personally - of the exact execution of this.
asciilifeform: we have this right here in usaschwitz, if house confiscated as part of 'dope warz' (requires no conviction in any court) chumper ~also~ gets to keep the mortgage.
mircea_popescu: anyway, by the workings of that thing, if you took out a loan + mortgage to buy a house ; the house did go on to be owned by X, but you kept the mortgage.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, bucharest scarcely accounted for a fifth of the country's real estate ; and most of it was shit anyway when compared with the 3-5 century old stuff in transylvania.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform judging by the fact that 99% of it is bucharest, it's entirely certain they were picked by personal invidy.
mircea_popescu: perhaps notable for the device : a) the ~rights~ without any encumberances of real estate named goes on to new owner ; b) anyone currently living there is now renting from new owner, no matter what title they thought they had ; c) anyone fucking with this gets 10 years hard labour.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how were the particular kulaks picked ?
mircea_popescu: in perhaps related, perhaps interesting to amateur historian sources, here's the 1950 act that confiscated various houses of "the enemies of the regime" in Romania : http://www.juris.ro/legislatie-detaliu/DECRET-nr-92-din-19-aprilie-1950-pentru-nationalizarea-unor-imobile/
mircea_popescu: they also have a rule about bombing rogue states that steal $5bn out of people's wealth to pay cronies.
asciilifeform: meant to say, vermin linked to mircea_popescu's article ? dun they have a rule against this?!
mircea_popescu: from which we infer shitbags lose and phuctor > twitter.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : hano bock (the deceitful shitbag) drives slightly less traffic via his twitter / t.co/bcrxVsVoe5 than phuctor does via its faq page.
asciilifeform: just that there is no 'he was at the beach' excuse available.
mircea_popescu: " has definitely been awake since i wrote to him (he has new material on his site)" << i took this to mean site was ded previously ?
mircea_popescu: hey check you out, you can raise teh ded
asciilifeform: in other noose, krebs ( http://krebsonsecurity.com ) has definitely been awake since i wrote to him (he has new material on his site) but never answered re phuctor/khadeer/etc.
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm somewhat puzzled that NOBODY said a single word re new trilema header.
mircea_popescu: yes, obviously the sputniks made a plane that could fly for 1/100 the "cost".
mircea_popescu: that's the dod, dude.
asciilifeform: this'd be one of those poor folk in hanbot's story
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the pretence that "it's not because we're poor, it's because of the sandbugs" is ENTIRELY rural belle ego protection and naught else.
asciilifeform: they can 'afford' 10k shitanium rifle where you can't even club a man with the butt
mats: yes, i also heard about the silly string
mircea_popescu: i got that concept too phf ! :D
mats: NCOs would routinely get fucked and have to cover out of pocket because the vouchers wouldn't clear fast enough
mats: also endemic problems with the travel system and reimbursements
mircea_popescu: ie, "appearance in according to greater russian code" ? :P
phf: mircea_popescu: various signs of often irreversible degradation, corn rows, track marks, gaudy tattoos
mircea_popescu: add in all the various tax and "education" easements + medical care etc.
mircea_popescu: 50k people making 100k a year that's 5bn
asciilifeform: does their collective pay even add up to $B, or the cost of 1 magic airplane.
asciilifeform: mats: i'd be rather surprised if missing $T had anything to do with soldiers' pay.
mats: i didn't see a deposit clear until 3 months into training (good thing i didn't really need it, had enough cash to buy running shoes and what not)
mats: some - don't see them resolved until they exit service
mats: i am not surprised DFAS is fucked up, i'd guess 1 in 10 soldiers see pay issues during their enlistment
mats: 'Not even the ones managed and attented* by ethically* Asian people' << is this intentional or?
asciilifeform found that it is ~impossible to visit a museum of whatever kind in washington, or beach in delaware/md coast, without hearing spoken ru in the crowd at least once
phf: eh, i'm not too worried about it, i'm playing "spot the eastern european" game at the ocean city board walk. tall check, skinny check, fit check, not surrounded by 4 bros check. there are some easy matches though. fat +100 to american. not busted, but with a black guy +100 slav.
trinque: who made all this
phf: sasl doesn't ghost, it renames you, and when you rename back, it asks you to identify
mircea_popescu: it's literally, "fail" read out by the wodewick roman guy
trinque: phf: probably better to just get sasl in there
mircea_popescu: in other "stripping the special chars" news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/71c2bce1b57d44d510457fed3c2b1369/tumblr_mk9bnxQdqN1rni6rao1_400.gif
phf: paster ates them
trinque: phf: did the paster eat those? I have them too
deedbot: [Trilema] The Huswife at the ATM - http://trilema.com/2016/the-huswife-at-the-atm/
phf: trinque: so your bot has a bunch of string matches for things that come back from nickserv, but they are all stripped of special characters. like "nick has been ghosted." what i get back is "^Anick^A has been ghosted." is that some setting i'm missing? or something else?
mircea_popescu: seems the us is pretty ripe for giving the people a voice etc.
mircea_popescu: sooo, is lybia going to bomb the us now, to put obama in a cage, and hang himlater, while "giving a chance to democracy" in that country ?
asciilifeform: rding to the Reuters investigation.'
asciilifeform: '...employees of the DFAS were routinely told by superiors to take “unsubstantiated change actions” commonly referred to as “plugging” the numbers. These “plugs” – which amounted to falsifying financial records – were then used to create the appearance that the military’s financial data matched that of the U.S. Treasury Department’s numbers when discrepancies in the financial data couldn’t be accounted for, acco
asciilifeform: unrelated, and - possibly at this point, unsurprising - lelz: http://www.activistpost.com/2016/08/audit-reveals-pentagon-doesnt-know-where-trillions-went.html
deedbot: [Trilema] The Husewife at the ATM - http://trilema.com/2016/the-husewife-at-the-atm/
mircea_popescu: funny thing being, at the time i was running a sort of digg (well, much better, but anyway) in romanian, and people could actually cash out, via btc. a few did, not massive sums at the time, but massive sums in btc.
shinohai: i always miss these opportunities to make easy BTC, i knew that one xD
phf: simpler times
mircea_popescu: what i do dun excuse the localtards, though.
asciilifeform: and here i was, thinking mircea_popescu had his phood flown in
asciilifeform: ('brittanica' is not in fact included in that lib, but i found myself checking...)
ben_vulpes: oh sorry am i distracting from the fiddy cents of btc bitfinex lost?
ben_vulpes: man the weak shit on display
ben_vulpes: oh man the thing even has a "sign the papers" moment
a111: Logged on 2016-03-30 22:30 mats: i look forward to moar attack surface
ben_vulpes: the thing features stock photos of leo from the movie and the obligatory noble j-school ho
mircea_popescu: according to documents seen by mp, the guardian publishes anything for a double hamburger.
ben_vulpes: actually greenwald schmeenwald you backed *anyone* who suggested the use of anything other than RSA.
ben_vulpes: and you're the guaaaardian you backed greenwald gtfo
mircea_popescu: aww, you don't take the agitprop at face value, terrorist ?
ben_vulpes: you either bring scans and let them stand or you bring unsubstantiated claims
ben_vulpes: i don't take shit on anyone's word anymore
ben_vulpes: bitch shut the fuck up or publish