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phf: i'd rather not loose a chip in transit, and since avocation, i don't care about time frames.
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think that's a wasted effort. i got in touch with zeptobars people again, and my current best option (since they said shipping to russia is maddness) is to travel moscows sometime in summer and hand deliver the chip. assuming that i have one, but i take it you're no longer interested since "snap4 source" ☟︎
phf: i think there's a lot of general "couldn't care less"-ness going on all around. whisperers don't care about asciilifeform's plight
mircea_popescu: i truly couldn't care less.
asciilifeform: phf: i can't speak for mircea_popescu , but i don't specialize in hasty conclusions
mircea_popescu: person > 50yo, their brain likely isn't connected. to anything.
mircea_popescu: if they weren't idiots, they'd be here.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 23:57 asciilifeform: this isn't the only 1 on the net, either, i found several, they bought lispms, one took hundreds of photos of himself 'hipstering' near it, then one final one where it (??!) burned down
asciilifeform: but it's a bit rich to talk about a 'community' of smbx people that doesn't share with asciilifeform 'because it doesn't know'
mircea_popescu: and yes, i understand how fucking petryfing and utterly enraging this is, "shit, wtf do these dorks sit on i need and they won't say"
asciilifeform: phf: you're quite right that it isn't. thing is an astonishing pile of gnarl. but all of the necessary info, is ~inside~ it, just like 'bitcoin' lives inside the rubbish of trb
mircea_popescu: phf why was it you didn't link him again ?
asciilifeform: it simply isn't athing, like there is no used chewing gum on the moon.
asciilifeform: picture this, mircea_popescu , 100% of d00d's income comes from pentagon, and he won't answer a .mil mail.
mircea_popescu: "see that chick at the table two over ? no don't look! yeah! so she knows i'm trying to get laid, and doesn't want me to get laid!!11"
phf: i don't know anyone who has direct line of communication to kalman, short of dks, but brad parker is notoriously spotty at communication and 4 emails is ~simply not enough~
mircea_popescu: not like you don't know all this, abstractly.
mircea_popescu: i'm saying you can't rely on it always working! cache misses are a thing, local maxima capture is a thing, whadda ya want
asciilifeform: i also suspect that the folks sitting on 4-10k worth of 'ivories' don't relish them suddenly being worth what nintendo is worth.
mircea_popescu: i can't bring myself to move my piss away from dks, or anyone in his generation's face. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but fwiw, i don't credit the "irreplaceable treasure" theory.
asciilifeform: i don't have a cable into their heads, cannot say for certain what the cockroaches therein were doing.
asciilifeform: i won't telepsychoanalyze phf or any other of the other folx. but i gotta wonder wtf was in their heads.
phf: i think the implication is that "whisperers" are so poor (being dirty redditors) they can't even buy a cheap fpga
asciilifeform: this includes dks, incidentally, who wouldn't even answer my mail after my lab closed down
asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but my objective since day 0 has been to get that instruction set.
asciilifeform: tried 'humint' even. asked dks, for instance, to name a price (he wouldn't)
asciilifeform: (for instance, in that YEAR i could have been making one. was quite inclined to, but didn't have the instruction set !!)
asciilifeform: and tells something about why to this day we don't have an fpga bolix.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it wasn't 'of same thing', it was just an x64 binary
asciilifeform: Framedragger: dks , if you didn't know, is the last known paid employee of smbx co.
Framedragger: i don't think he meant himself, but rather other, external wots.
phf: yes, but i can't speak for other "whisperers"
asciilifeform: (i came back to it regularly, whenever didn't feel like working on anything else)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1624943 << can't argue with his point there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: know what doesn't help ? people's habit of NOT POSTING JACK SHIT
phf: no, just haven't shipped it. i've been waiting for some friends to do west coast/east coast drive, but those always seem to NOT happen when you actually need them. i can boot it to do remote x11 though, was configured with the assumption that it will boot blind
asciilifeform: phf: aha. doesn't sound like a jet turbine either
asciilifeform: 'When Intel first invented the TSC it measured CPU cycles. Due to various power management features "cycles per second" is not constant; so TSC was originally good for measuring the performance of code (and bad for measuring time passed). For better or worse; back then CPUs didn't really have too much power management, often CPUs ran at a fixed "cycles per second" anyway. ...'
Framedragger: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19941588/wrong-clock-cycle-measurements-with-rdtsc don't kill me plz
mircea_popescu: they are blocking aren't they
Framedragger: that said, CLOCK_MONOTONIC ain't bad.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 13:28 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541639 << not only is this true, but you won't be seeing scientifically accurate nanosecond timing in a konsooomer box at all. the physical clock is not up to it.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you didn't measure anything mah boy!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i just meant "don't fucking rebalance my tree, behind the scenes, idiot!"
Framedragger: also just ftr, a b-tree by definition has every part of it be of the same depth. 'unbalancing b-tree' doesn't even make sense. but you could have 'just a normal tree', and one can implement custom indices. just pointing out
Framedragger: (also just for poterity it's not like you can't tell a decent db which indexing mechanism it should use. but i agree with main 'general tools are ~meh' sentiment)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624517 << don't knock it too much, bunny-hop fuck-chair is fine tool for she who for the first time took her clothes off in public today. ☝︎
Framedragger: ftr i didn't every say it was the right thing for bitcoin with uniformly distributed hashspace
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624413 << this truly isn't a concern. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 18:17 asciilifeform: do the arithmetic, it isn't as if anyone can cancel the 'block per 10min' thing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624375 << confirmed, this is safe. just don't issue the -0 before it hd a chance to settle down. ☝︎
mod6: with chemo... could be 8-12. we don't think we'll do chemo tho. don't see much of a point.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 17:36 asciilifeform: that is, you don't need 8 bytes to say which 4kB slice has the beginning
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone correctly represents the tower of accidental good luck that stands between a disk seek and your desired pron.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 17:19 asciilifeform: it is statistically possible that we don't even have ONE collision yet
mircea_popescu: yet move - he won't.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am not a psychiatrist, do not specialize in 'patient has arms, legs, nerves are fine, but he won't move'em'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg really can't make anything. you're basically saying "siliconed botoxed cali chick could cook a decent meal." of course she could. of course she won't.
asciilifeform: kinda disgraceful, not like there isn't a usg 15nm fab or two still standing in upstate new york
mircea_popescu: ah, i don;t particularly care. anyone googling me who ends up on etoro deserves his punishment.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i didn't intend any distinctiuon betrween "symlink resolution" "directory traversal" et al.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624242 << this doesn't sound right. need more directory structure than just that wtf. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624229 << at some point you'll have to decide if you care or don't care about the old harlot. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624226 << you know, you have the most amusing penchant for asking questions you really don't want answered. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624206 << lol, isn't he endearing ? why do you feel so guilty, yo! about to get married or what. ☝︎
Framedragger: (anyway, will share tool i wrote if only because couldn't find anything fitting the task out there, but need to polish a bit first, etc.)
asciilifeform: but in table system, you don't even need to munge indices into strings to make paths with
Framedragger: (5ms read on an ssd ain't too pretty, but would have to check distribution of these kinds of tails, i guess.)
asciilifeform: which i currently don't have.
Framedragger: yes, but how to cheaply ensure the latter. you won't have a shitload of locks now will you
Framedragger: ah yeah, iirc some applications even use this 'descriptor passing' technique so minimise high permissions level exposure (but don't recall). quite robust
asciilifeform: for the ultimate variant, where we don't even store 'blocks' as such, but merely sequence of specially-marked tx, you ~will~ need whole disk.
Framedragger: well, 'disk' could just be partition which isn't a bad thing anyway, right?
asciilifeform: you don't need any moar kludges, the scheme described, will work.
asciilifeform: do the arithmetic, it isn't as if anyone can cancel the 'block per 10min' thing. ☟︎
asciilifeform: that is, you don't need 8 bytes to say which 4kB slice has the beginning ☟︎
asciilifeform: except that you don't actually need byte-addressing !
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the 1024bt thing works in all cases, it simply means that you don't have to point to beginnings of blocks, but to a place very near the tx
Framedragger: right! ahh that's nice. (so just to clarify, the 1024 byte block trick wouldn't work if there's a collision (unless additional budget / w/e))
asciilifeform: point being, to point at a tx sitting on a multi-TB disk, you don't need to be able to address it ~bytewise~
asciilifeform: it is statistically possible that we don't even have ONE collision yet ☟︎
Framedragger: trinque: it's just a kindergarten way of wrapping up some syscalls. will obviously benchmark outside it later. i wasn't completely certain that my tool wouldn't trash the host fs. :)
asciilifeform: but, thing is, it won't work any better on mechanical disk than the old bdb. and imho it is quite impossible to make variable-length tx bitcoin work well on mechanical disk, with modern spamola level.
Framedragger: aha, right. i haven't even looked at bdb.
Framedragger: will get a way to test real disk soon, didn't want to run on personal trashy PC, hence shitty server
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 03:46 mircea_popescu: Framedragger i don't get it, you graphed some functions ? or ?
mircea_popescu: not to mention of all the truly priceless fishing and whatnot else, history hasn't recorded.
asciilifeform: ( the sane folx, who had alphas with tru64, openvms, etc, went 'wtf why would i even think of winblowz' -- which wouldn't do. whole edifice 'musted die' )
mircea_popescu: "a technology so powerful, so secret, it needn't even exist!"
mircea_popescu: yeah, i recall it wasn't ever actually deployed in any meaningful sense. ielbrus.
mircea_popescu: amd couldn't hire a new set.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 10:43 phf: i don't quite remember, what goes where, but i'm pretty sure the emulator.c that you linked is a frankenstein that primarily emulates alpha, though it has some signifcant knowledge about what the alpha emulator does, so it's not quite qemu, but something a lot scarrier
phf: i don't quite remember, what goes where, but i'm pretty sure the emulator.c that you linked is a frankenstein that primarily emulates alpha, though it has some signifcant knowledge about what the alpha emulator does, so it's not quite qemu, but something a lot scarrier ☟︎
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-09#1623875 << I agree and will admit that my bot and log-o-tron are/were largely forged from used dildos I found laying in the forest. I also don't pretend that they are anything but ☝︎
mod6: a cautionary note to anyone who is going to use my V to press with wires_rev1 (http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000251.html), be sure to name the seal as such or it won't get picked up in the flow (in the new, forthcoming version 99994) as such: asciilifeform_wires_rev1.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig
asciilifeform: blackhole odometer is probably of ~very~ limited interest to folx who aren't asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624042 << i don't mean, privately. i mean a public indian. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: oh it isn't ?
mircea_popescu: dude these women presidents aren't doing so well after all ? brazil, korea... who has one left ? impeach the queen ?