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mircea_popescu: anyway, gotta love how the us propaganda machine studiously omits to mention who this entire "sec letters!!11" trend is trying to immitate. totally works, boyz, srsly. cuz nobody knows anything, everyone gets his informations from wired.com.
mircea_popescu: bounce: you know, if the IRS says that virtual currencies aren't currencies, how can the SEC keep on claiming they are? << you're new here aren't you.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: If the day ever comes where you want to switch professions from engineer to gangsta, I'm totally down to ride or die with you. Lets just hope it never comes to that ;) <<< if you two do that, a film is guaranteed.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: supay: Qntra takes a lot of things. <<< yeah, but not kidz! we do not take your kidz!
mircea_popescu: decimation: most folks today never learn about the complete Apocalypse that faced german people after wwii <<< i hear berlin chicks had a lot of fun in '45.
mircea_popescu: cazalla omaigawd, traffic dropped. now you gotta fire someone!!
mircea_popescu: omg wtf gpg doesn't veriufy its own clearsigned output
mircea_popescu: yeah, to have what to buy swarowsky encrusted buttdongs with
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> asciilifeform: db_cxx.h would have the bdb functions used across the bitcoind codebase, correct? <<< mmmmmmostly
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla thats not static :D << the alternative is actually something a la usb drive mess discussed a week ago or so
mircea_popescu: z33andO_o you have to appreciate, wallets were originally unencrypted. but this was remedied many years ago, and before this thing got started.
mircea_popescu: which is why its replacement figured majorily in the prev discussion of bringing pgp implementation up to snuff
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the thinkers : i'm pretty sure the symmetric cypher is currently the weakest link in our entire crypto stack.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bounce anyway, i don't think we've really managed to talk of the same thing, so i guess this entire quesiton will come back in teh futures.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, dsa/elgamal uses dsa key for signing not encryption. for the other, the symmetric block cypher is not so very large anyway/
mircea_popescu: bounce you understand this serves no practical purpose yes ?
mircea_popescu: punkbot asciilifeform stop you two. we are NOT reimplementing gpg before bitcoind is done.
mircea_popescu: the proposition that "all things that are carry purpose equally so" is fallacious, and for that matter gnoseosocialism!
mircea_popescu: "if you stab him, does he not bleed" === "all molecules run on qm"
mircea_popescu: so now : all these run entirely on quantum mechanics. the box and the cpu. this is directly equivalent to saying "stinks of running entirely on chumps, chumpatron". so ?
mircea_popescu: god fucking help me if someone took away a single germanium atom.
mircea_popescu: i have a computer here, it runs this irc session. right next to it, i have a wooden box. it is ALSO MADE OF MOLECULES. it runs nothing. they form a society of the items in my house. they're all molecules. i wouldn't fucking notice if the entire fucking wooden box went away.
mircea_popescu: let's not confuse things. leaders are leaders, adonis-18
mircea_popescu: exactly how a plate of uranium glass may glow under uv light, but won't warm anything much.
mircea_popescu: harkens back to the entire "how come 300 milion usians living in the best world ever don't produce about 500 renoirs a year ?"
mircea_popescu: in any case, whatever they need they get, and that means you'll issue hb1 visas to obedient indians if those are the only obedient people to be found.
mircea_popescu: to try and heal this utterly scattered conversation : if you properly ignore most of society, the whole shebang depends on keeping the few that matter huming. if they hum too slow it cools and dies entirely. if they hum too fast it explodes, and you get a golden age.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, and in the sense that all uranium decays, all people are people and matter.
mircea_popescu: neither. for the purpose of the above, "doped uranium" = natural uranium ore. inert uranium with traces of radioactive uranium.
mircea_popescu: to better understand this, consider doped uranium. some doped uranium is shaped in pellets, other doped uranium is shaped in bars. the only thing that actually matters is whether the uranium is doped with radioactive material or not.
mircea_popescu: what matters is : are you going to do it or aren't you.
mircea_popescu: and so : technology has nothing to do with it. if the technology is "have 10 people do dances" or if the technology is "stay indoors and pile things"
mircea_popescu: whether at point A the three were motivated to work and at point B they were not is the clou of the matter.
mircea_popescu: allowing this as a fact : that at point A the three that mattered used thirty others to dance the ramma-butta, whereas at point B the three that mattered simply stayed indoors and piled items on top of other items is not what's relevant.
mircea_popescu: suppose out of a hundred people, ninety-seven don't matter. ever. irrespective of any consideration, if god strikes them down tomorrow nothing happens.
mircea_popescu: my proposition is that this is entirely besides the point.
mircea_popescu: seaworthy vessels work at going places ; sinking vessels work at staying afloat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect the bulk of they shipped in are "luxury workers", which is to say cocksuckers.