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KRS1: looks like theres also a rating to them
mircea_popescu: what, you think financial top management particularly WANTED a crisis ?
mircea_popescu: decimation so then you try to "make it work" which means you push both ends and then a decade down the road your shitty officers bring about a crisis of unheard magnitude
Vexual: etrade is a stock broker here u know mp?
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids i just mean that if you want to dd on your own you can't possibly need a bank for any purpose.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids why do you need a bank to interface your etrade account ?
herbijudlestoids: decimation: why cant any business wanting loans list a bond and their financial deets and allow me to quantify them and bid in the free market on their rate?
Vexual: yeah herbi got it, hes a surity
decimation: ie a real finiancial middleman in the proper sense
herbijudlestoids: realistically, there should be no bitcoin bank, doesnt seem necessary as long as there is a highly liquid market for bitcoin duration notes and bonds, like 10,30,90 day 2,5,7,y bonds
decimation: you can have a fractional subsidary for the idiots to bank with
decimation: with a convienent loan-matchmaking system
mircea_popescu: decimation well is it a bank or is it money storage ?
mircea_popescu: Vexual 500 dollars a year to bank there and no further fees.
Vexual: well if mpex is anything to go by, youd own a priavte bank
mircea_popescu: anyway, the actual reason would be, of course, that the last thing any one government wants is me at the helm of a huge fiat bank.
mircea_popescu: decimation obviously it'd be a complex matter.
Vexual: you might have a son in the next few years mp
mircea_popescu: in the current situation, the only reason i conceivably could not lbo a bank with 100trn in "assets"
mircea_popescu: i don't need a weakling.
herbijudlestoids: i dun think you can afford a strong bank, thats why i suggested one of the weaklings :P
decimation: what's the point of owning a fiat bank?
mircea_popescu: maybe this year i cut a deal with a large bank. or maybe i buy one. or maybe next year. or who knows
mircea_popescu: in general, a large number of fluffers are trying to scam various particular venues. there's all the dorks pretending like they have projects for the benefit of the clueless va market.
mircea_popescu: "Here's the latest Max Keiser in which he and Stacey Herbert to a good job of explaining what I have in mind. " this sort of thing will instakill any project, for instance.
herbijudlestoids: seems a bit vapey right now? i tried to reg for the forum but doesnt work etc
herbijudlestoids: im watchin the youtube video about it now, seems like he has hired some indian guy to do the coding and the explanation video is just a skype screencast of him showing reggie what he has paid for
herbijudlestoids: KRS1: from what i understand its using zero trust contracts in a closed bitcoin system to do financial obligations (basically)
Vexual: in two teths of the time it takes an a 380 to fly round the world you could be to cuba and back
mircea_popescu: put a dint in the bint like you don't care...
herbijudlestoids: if i went around, saying i was emperor just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me...
decimation: lol maybe they can dig a tunnel to the uk while they work
Vexual: thats a shit sub
decimation: I donno, how are they going to attact elite coders to work in a hole?
asciilifeform: decimation: on a subterrine.
Vexual: i expect tellers with broken computers and a stopwork from govt
mircea_popescu: this is just damage control anyway. most of the deposits belong to companies, which a) are legally required to keep their funds in a bank and b) are not insured anyway.
Duffer1: he's jsut using it as an example to highlight a point, smart guy knows his audience
Vexual: pay a nigerian
mircea_popescu: flay a libertard alive today. he's earned it. then salt the wounds and make his mother watch.
mircea_popescu: "Someone should start a bank (or maybe someone has) that charges (rather than pays) interest and does not make loans. "
mircea_popescu: besides, the nsa is dead. the us is scrambling to create a new, actually secret replacement, while pretending nsa is still a thing.
mircea_popescu: and a list of people that can do it.
mircea_popescu: except they have a list of things to do
herbijudlestoids: the way i see it workin gis something like this: FBI discovers new online drug marketplace, probably tipped off from dutch intelligence or similar agency who actually has the knowhow. they poke it, cant de-anon it, and so they call up the NSA to take a poke. initial pokes are unsuccessful so they go all out against it.
Apocalyptic: i really don't see HK or Russia extradite a drug marketplace owner
mircea_popescu: 2. most jurisdictions couldn't give less of a shit about the us and its problems.
herbijudlestoids: youll be going up against a very scary adversary who will hand your details over to the FBI or local equivalent as soon as they de-anon your server
herbijudlestoids: my main concern is if you setup a legit, correctly secured darknet site, its just going to make you an even bigger target for the NSA really
herbijudlestoids: yep, well you can bet the big vendors on those sites are now doing their "security due diligence" before they list products on a given market
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i just kind of assumed that anyone who wanted to setup a website like that might be the kind of person who knows even the first thing about security
Apocalyptic: security-wise it's a disaster
herbijudlestoids: but there is a new one i read about, running on i2p
mircea_popescu: speaking of php. the stuff had me in a state of ptss for a few hours
mircea_popescu: Vexual at the rate benkay is posting on that cascade of his, the cheatsheet will need a flatbed truck.
Duffer1: ya there's a reason why mpoe-pr recommends taking a year off to read first :P
Vexual: or a small amount of visible water vapour in the sky
Vexual: i think bitcloud should be a proof of work image board with extra stenography
herbijudlestoids: has anyone come up with any useful use cases for urbit? all i could think of was a mutt clone lol ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. bad ideas being funded is a serious problem for any society.
mircea_popescu: yeah, interesting to me too. in the following sense : a londoner goes to the country, and upon hearing a goose meow he expresses his astonishment : listen to the cock neigh!
mircea_popescu: imo "crowdfunding" as in, kickfunder etc is a fad not unlike social media.
herbijudlestoids: definitely considering the aggregate demand for junk bonds it does seem there is a lot of stupid people out there willing to fund anything
herbijudlestoids: this interview is supposedly about decentralisation of energy but seems to cover the idea that crowdfunding, p2p lending etc: "Even the assistant director general of the Bank of England, Andy Haldane has said this is showing signs of becoming such a trend, such a potential mega-trend, that it could disenfranchise the main banks, the high street banks in the way that I think some of these trends in renewable energy
KRS1: ethereum looks like a really strong project
benkay: well like i said i don't think i even get a say
benkay: mircea_popescu: you're welcome to assume jurov's debt to me. i don't think i even get a say.
mircea_popescu: also bear in mind it's a scam as per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103
mircea_popescu: lol so lend me a btc.
benkay: goddamnit i'm going to die broke with a donation address on my blog
herbijudlestoids: what a saturday night!
benkay: altcoin is a thing now?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves pankkake seems atc has a quite solid bottom in nao.
Duffer1: MPOE-PR: taking people down a few pegs, even if they only started with 2
mircea_popescu: was like a week the whole thing
benkay: dah do'h no it only paid out if bs&t didn't have a credit event
jurov: only now, after a year some figured out how to reach json decoder
benkay: i'd love to see the 'turing equivalent conversion' of a python class tangle to lisp
mircea_popescu: clojure is a thing now ?!
benkay: would someone kindly a) write my name in channel and b) pm me?
ThickAsThieves: first time i see the baht in a url
mircea_popescu: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4359 << generally a good read for eager minds and benkay.
mircea_popescu: where you get to "hiring lawyers, with a degree or comparable experience and attention to detail" it becomes quite hilarious.
Namworld: Found a nice graph. I like it. http://i.imgur.com/1srrQRV.jpg
mircea_popescu: you're thinking like a dragon.
ThickAsThieves: Evil thought of the moment: Will we eventually see a trend of tricking people into losing their bitcoins? (Decreasing supply)
kleeck: I even put up a bitbet on it
kleeck: Been away for a bit, wanted to focus on my new job for a while. Settled in now so I can bullshit with you guys.
mircea_popescu: no, but i've seen girls with spots so bad painting them with a wide brush was the only way.
kleeck: Yes. That was a good year...
kleeck: What a great way to legitimize Bitcoin!
kleeck: Wasn't that a confirmed paid prostitute?
mircea_popescu: is a doge over 100 nao?
pankkake: not even a doge :(
mircea_popescu: like a whole altcoin.
Vexual: ima buy me a arcehorse
mircea_popescu: Vexual get on a horse man.
pankkake: I will have a used crown soon
lippoper: there was a lot of troll in the last sentence
nubbins`: pankkake, is that a monospace font?