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mircea_popescu: a good chunk of the people listening to jesse james or w/e the mn govt's name was do however.
ThickAsThieves: she thinks google is too creepy and will create a small paradigm
mircea_popescu: sucks to onyl have a legion.
ThickAsThieves: sucks to not have a legion of competent programmers at our disposal to explore every whim
mircea_popescu: filter schmilter. have a spider farm
mircea_popescu: a bitcoin google. you can advertise on it on the bitbet model and fu govts.
ThickAsThieves: well as a "pro" wrestler, it's surprising he'd compromise his integrity for attention
mircea_popescu: but i mean what the fuck is with these people, it's quite plain to explain that talking to a satellite is like yelling really really loudly.
ThickAsThieves: i accidentally went to pandora via a EU VPN and was like uhhh wtf
punkman1: but they were btctalk buddies for a year, such trust
Duffer1: sounds like he was trying to buy some cascs from a scammer
Diablo-D3: theres no such thing as a physical bitcoin
deadweas1l: he only lost 10, sounds like a deal for the ignorant.
punkman1: "Concerned about the security of his digital bitcoins, Russell agreed to digitally submit 201.7 bitcoins to a man in the United Kingdom for 190 physical bitcoins"
Duffer1: hardcore is a good word for it
ThickAsThieves: so maybe a good indicator
ThickAsThieves: something like, 85% of bitcointalk thinks A is the right choice, thus B is more likely to be correct
chipug: thats a bloody ace idea
ThickAsThieves: "The Auroracoin is set to release in less than two months and has a very unique distribution plan. It will give every Icelander 31.8 Auroracoins (AUC)."
herbijudlestoids: i thought you meant a mac :P
herbijudlestoids: or is a G5 some kind of expensive thing i dunno about
herbijudlestoids: hehe im a lil more profitable than consumer goods can cover
kakobrekla: like a G5 or something
herbijudlestoids: basically, depending on my gross income in a given year i can have my tax treated differently...trading certain positions allows me to claim them as hedges against other positions in other markets...much better tax treatment, better overall annual return
kakobrekla: perhaps you need a btc denomination
herbijudlestoids: i also got a follow through model somewhere, built originally for GBPUSD...called (no surprise) deconfidence, cant find it right now
kakobrekla: after a year of simplicifying i ended up with 5k+ lines of code in 3 seperate processes
herbijudlestoids: i have a better version which uses a couple of simple regime filters somewhere, that allos the same model to work on all the major pairs...lemme see if i can find it
herbijudlestoids: mostly for EURUSD since that is my bread and butter, but a couple of adaptive ones that tend to work as part of a portfolio of model
herbijudlestoids: these are models where the goal is to generate a ~10%CAGR over ~10y with low/no correlation to regular asset classes
herbijudlestoids: kakobrekla: i got a bunch of models for FX that i cant use, want em? :D
herbijudlestoids: well, i guess all i can say is i hope you never experience a 1% adverse move when youve got a 100:1 open trade :)
kakobrekla: anyway, i never had a case in 2 years where what you describe would be a problem
herbijudlestoids: well, while "operating" on the FX market, you took on liabilities yourself, probably in several times excess more than the net value of your BTC on several occasions, so whatever premium you earned is a risk premium, thats all, nothing special
herbijudlestoids: i understand that, but when they open the account with you all they are doing is changing their ownership of 100btc into ownining a liability from you to return 100btc
herbijudlestoids: and how did the brokerage account benefit them over keeping those 100btc in a wallet?
herbijudlestoids: maybe im wrong and theres a hundred props out there just drooling to short bitcoin on leverage?
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herbijudlestoids: to give you an idea, my current broker offers a spread of 0.2 pips on EURUSD during Frankfurt/London/NY sessions
herbijudlestoids: Straight Through Processing...thats what Currenex is. a big matching pool for retail to get fleeced
kakobrekla: or a passthrough or whatever you wanna call it
herbijudlestoids: fucker, osama is a semitic name, im iranian! we arent arabs!
herbijudlestoids: but no, not NSA, doubt i would pass a background check :P
kakobrekla: no but really, the "how do i invest in mp" is not a valid question
kakobrekla: ahh yes it doesnt, because this is not a toy computer!
Mats_cd03: So if I'm to understand, shareholders of mpex are about to get a bigger than expected dividend
DrSteveBrule: yea, that should be taught in schools and in church. I believe there is a quote in the bible about options...
benkay: building a finite state machine. can't be arsed with option pricing.
DrSteveBrule: for example, i see 1000 @ 0.487 = 487 BTC with a stike at 500 / doesn't that mean they bought 1000 contracts at 0.487BTC?
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benkay: the breakeven on the position is a function of both the strike price and price paid.
DrSteveBrule: My apologies, I don't want to sound like one of those crazy people who just wants to come in a speak bullshit. My reasons for my current short position are 1) Elliot wave principle 2) I don't think the Chinese gov likes bitcoin 3) 4 million dollars worth of option puts bought on http://mpex.co/
DrSteveBrule: ooh, and a magazine of Bears monthly. Warm fuzzy bears in my lifeboat.
DrSteveBrule: hello. I grabbed a lifeboat and we have not even hit the iceberg yet. Anyone else in the lifeboat with me? I have a 10 bag and a bluetooth speaker playing a bob marley mix
nubbins`: your mother's pussy is a pit
ThickAsThieves: this is a pit
herbijudlestoids: you cant really be a specialist without having a seat or working for a bank/insto that does
Vexual: im in a loop thinking of numbers i don't understand, but there are external govt regulators vitoing bullshit on wall street no?
herbijudlestoids: you get a pretty good deal for 5 mio IMHO
herbijudlestoids: the price is only there as a barrier to entry, not as a meaningful representation of how much it costs to maintain the seat
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean it's 5mn and a bunch of crap and al lyou get for it is the opportunity to eat the crap ?!?!!"
mircea_popescu: come to think of it, if the average person knew a whole lot of how the real world functions they'd be pretty scandalised.
dudesir: So does being a member enable you to vote on what stocks get allowed? I think I have much research to do on how the NYSE operates...
mircea_popescu: it's a self-performing operation. one of these days ima wake up to a report of "and then X tried to break Y" and just go "so revoke X"
herbijudlestoids: "However, to own a seat, a trader or broker must meet more criteria than simply being able to afford it. Prospective owners of the seats must go through a stringent review process and, once accepted, they are required to maintain high levels of compliance and ethics as the NYSE and governmental regulators constantly review members. "
herbijudlestoids: and not just that but its not like you can just buy a seat at the NYSE, someone has to die or want to sell their seat
Namworld: People with lower investments can use a broker like CoinBR to trade MPEx
herbijudlestoids: dudesir: its an exchange, do you have an account with the CME or NYSE? you have an account with your broker, who has a seat (or equiv) at the exchange
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/9VClTYt.gif this actually looks a lot like mpoe-pr baiting threads.
nubbins`: only those whose surnames begin with A through F may visit the zoo on sundays, etc
asciilifeform: the premise was a little brain-fucking, yes - turned out that mathematics was a physical object, that one could fuck with
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: got a response, somewhere privatish i can send it to?
asciilifeform: damn if i recall. but there was a mathematical galactic battle in there
mircea_popescu: i think you can probably write a brown note novel on this, you can literally drive math people to insanity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform haha that's a great premise
asciilifeform: btw the whole homomorphic business reminds me of an old sf story, where some malefactor stumbles upon a pair of large integers whose multiplication doesn't commute.
mircea_popescu: so it's not like there's something debatable really, it's entirely and flatly wrong, like a chinese man on a list of hepatic patiens.
asciilifeform: it's a perpetuum mobile, but that never stopped the desperate idiots with infinitely deep pockets, has it.
asciilifeform: the inevitable boojum of conventional computing is that a boobytrap, no matter how clever, could eventually be stumbled upon by some clever soviet kid with a copy of 'ida'
asciilifeform: in principle, 'all blades have two edges,' etc. but in practice, the one and only objective of the folks funding homomorphic is a kind of satanic opposite of my purpose outlined in 'don't blame the mice'
mircea_popescu: or a soft obamacare, which appears to work fine, but when your name is obama an email is sent to a certain address with your vaginal probe pics.
asciilifeform: a 'soft pgp' that appears to work fine, but when you encrypt a message to a certain pubkey, the message becomes 'eat shit and die'
asciilifeform: certain people would /love/ a mathematically-impenetrable boobytrap.
mircea_popescu: but w/o a pw.
asciilifeform: i live right outside of a big uni, whose comp sci dept. pisses out a never-ending supply of this crud.
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't be necessarily running a compiler there
asciilifeform: there is already a hard impossibility proof of turing-complete computation in a homomorphic turd. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's a term of art.
asciilifeform: so let's say you have a homomorphic turd that signs arbitrary giblets with your key (which, for the sake of argument, assume cannot be extracted, as claimed)
asciilifeform: 5) Obfuscation is really a terrible name, but unfortunately it is the mathematical term that has become widely used in the academic (non-hacker) community.
asciilifeform: 2) Secure obfuscation is a mathematical term of art. It is unfortunate that the word "obfuscation" has an ordinary meaning that is very different than what we mean. An analogy might be the word "countable" which for mathematicians usually refers to infinite sets, while lay readers would likely not think this way.
asciilifeform: I am a co-author of the research quoted in the article. I realize it is likely pointless to write this comment in an Internet forum, but let me attempt to clarify the situation, in the hope that some thoughtful participants will find it useful. Please note: I will not be monitoring this forum in the future. If you are a researcher, please feel free to contact me.
asciilifeform: Amit Sahai • a day ago
mircea_popescu: i bet you we will have a major breakthrough in homomorphisms before we have one in quantum computing.
chipug: that's what i find so funny about people talking about bitcoin safety and hacking... it's all a continual cycle nowadays and that won't change. like leapfrog
chipug: i used to be a hospital admin in a psychitric hospital for almost 8 years but they fuckedme over
mircea_popescu: chipug what do you do for a living ?
mircea_popescu: they really should run drama contests, like a pageant.
mircea_popescu: owning a bitcoin simply means 1/12mn or w/e
ThickAsThieves: maybe we should make a coin that isnt a coin, just percentages