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mircea_popescu: the correct move is chaser piece about the situation of an unemployable 40something ex-da who can't find work now ; rather than indulging reboot of idle posturing
asciilifeform: mr.t did put himself in the buggery pose when he proclaimed intent to 'comply with judicial orders' or how was it.
asciilifeform: in yet-other but not wholly unrelated noose, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6podN/?raw=true >> mr.t's revised immigration order canceled by judge in... hawaii.
pete_dushenski: at this point, it's hard to tell if the dems know that they're muslims or if they still think "acting doesn't count"
ben_vulpes: epic pile btw, i don't believe for a second 4chan has worked through it yet.
ben_vulpes: these ebon pillars don't like that.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't put too much stock.
ben_vulpes: question will now float, "which 'regular' didn't beat elementary manners into his wannabe vassals?"
asciilifeform: ain't that a vpn co ?
mircea_popescu: what isn't paper money being thrown at ?
BU_lulz: like I have no faith in ethereum, dash, etc but I can't help but feel printed money is being thrown at them
BU_lulz: not to say there aren't segwit shillz
danielpbarron: ie: good deeds done by people who don't believe is seen as disgusting to God
danielpbarron: well she's not saved. she can't do anything good.
danielpbarron: hey if she's saved i don't care what else she does. adopts a bunch of orphans, wonderful!
mircea_popescu: well, maybe she can't find any proper men, so she just picks up an orphan kid and raises that.
danielpbarron: ah i see what you mean, suppose despite all that comfort she still repents, and now she also has all this stuff. so she dosen't need me in the financial sense. but maybe she wants kids
danielpbarron: i don't follow. because she was honest? perhaps i should clarify, i use whore to mean a woman who has sex with multiple men. harlot is a better word (friend of the world) but both are bad things: whether she is paid is irrelevant
danielpbarron: i don't even tinder
danielpbarron: i don't know any apparently. or rather i haven't met a whore i couldn't get to admit it
mircea_popescu: well i how can it be plainly observed when you didn't observe the other deeds any ; nor did the observation get recorded.
mircea_popescu: ah, mind that the eventual fate of all these is of no interest in this discussion. we were just going on about the "should be" and "shouldn't be". if mary doesn't have to publicly admit she was a whore, and if nobody has to point out to her, and if she may vaguely repent without mentioning, or maybe not, and it makes no difference, then why not random hussy aged 17 in 2017.
mircea_popescu: but apparently a whore may also ambiguously pass for random follower and it wouldn't matter.
danielpbarron: eh it may be the case she didn't believe. i don't suppose it matters. the fact remains a whore generally may repent and no longer be a whore, although it would still be appropriate to execute her
trinque: ah I just didn't remember her name
danielpbarron: i don't know if this one was named. the thing to which trinque is referring "cast first stone"
trinque: doesn't the guy or one of his progeny also say "wages of sin is death"
danielpbarron: Jesus died for the sins of everyone. that doesn't mean sin isn't sin anymore
trinque: thought jesus was supposed to have hung out with whores and so on, wasn't apparently befouled by the act
mircea_popescu: maybe they do it in their own closed and ain't botherin' you none.
trinque: "shouldn't be permitted" is what everybody asking somebody else for a mega-state says
danielpbarron: i don't want to go looking for them but they certainly shouldn't be permitted to flaunt it in public
mircea_popescu: this, from gutenberg. poor guy can't match trilema's day with his opera omnia.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the overarching concern isn't so much what to do about x as what to do so all the fanciule don't start pressuring them out of society.
danielpbarron: hey i agree. i don't think it needs to be a database or state issue. can be between husband and father of girl. if there's a dispute later, let them testify accordingly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cog wants to be cog, cockroach thinks "o, man doesn't feel interchangeable, how sad!!1". pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron what do you do when women start declaring your id ? note that this isn't an idle consideration, but quite the fundamental problem of harem societies. clemens has some notes about it re life in the mormon lands, for instance. it's everywhere.
mircea_popescu: only if one believes and is wrong while the other doesn't and is right. otherwise... what's the problem, truth prevails eventually.
danielpbarron: can be a drag if one believes Bible and other doesn't
trinque: while they haven't yet, they're a nuisance to the living
danielpbarron: wha? i'm not saying a man can't have multiple wives. if the first sucks get another, just don't ditch the first
mircea_popescu: it'd seem to me that in the continuum between "whenever a man is born a woman is allocated him, soulmate" and "let them be passed around and let the dogs fuck them too, what, it's a muscle. not like they're made of soap" the specific "there's no soulmate but there shouldn't be gynorgies either" spot you select is hard to support in any fundamental way.
danielpbarron: and lucky her she's not going to hell because i wouldn't have married a heathen
mircea_popescu: if she knows she can't be cast away that fucks up her incentive structure.
danielpbarron: marry just means: won't cast away
Framedragger: myeah you can't randomly access things in the middle, etc. lol.
Framedragger: wait he uses boost right, doesn't boost have its own 'multiprecision' thingie a la bignum?
Framedragger: at first i thought "well for small ints it's just an additional nSize check which is retarted but whatever", but he writes the bytes himself regardless of int size and i'm sure compiler etc. won't be able to optimise much there
Framedragger: nice. so you have local pointers within given data structure (e.g. block) referring to starts of whatever-relevant-stuff? (i didn't even know that satoshi's code used variable length ints)
asciilifeform: if it isn't obvious : 'fast form' is simply a SANE tabularization, removing the idiot varints
asciilifeform: which i don't have, and have no intention of attempting in near future, hands are quite full.
mircea_popescu: yes but if you are then it can't unlive on dev/null
asciilifeform: if it weren't for the screaming insanity of bdb, you could theoretically 'elevator algorithm' the disk accesses
davout: yeah i followed all that, didn't realize it was the ~writes~ clogging up everything
davout: you don't mean reads? when verifying individual txes?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you remember me translating the "feminine exceptionalism" article recently ? i can't fucking find it but im pretty sure i did
mircea_popescu: well, just as long as they don't have to do what they don't wanna do, i guess.
asciilifeform: it's exactly like the 'nologin' util ~except~ that it doesn't hang up.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627307 << jurov look how ssh does port forwarding. it doesn't USE the normal shell part for anything. the whole POINT of fuckoff.c is to clog, and work as a 'stopper' for shell access ☝︎
mircea_popescu: how exactly elizabeth warren isn't in jail atm is anyone's guess.
mircea_popescu: en) and, lulzily, they came up with a system to "guess" based on reasons (such as zip codes and last names) who is a black applicant for loans, and then fined various usg agencies masquerading as banks by the 100s of millions for these alleged abuses. and they got it too, because settlement culture. and they didn't, of course, pay as much as a dime to the "estimated" victims, they being you know, "estimated" aka hallucinated,
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ^ you can remove that sig_handler definition from fuckoff.c (as well as the signal.h #include) fwiw, as that that code won't ever be executed
asciilifeform: it isn't needed
Framedragger: asciilifeform: unrelated - re. fuckoff.c, aren't you supposed to register that sig_handler() to kernel first (via invoking signal()) for it to even work?
pete_dushenski: lol somehow their cousins and cheap friends weren't enough to buoy the whole establishment
Framedragger: "the audience doesn't change, why should the food change"
asciilifeform: doesn't look exploitable, sadly
asciilifeform: it isn't a new idea by any means.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 17:07 ben_vulpes: i figured the boats were under constant optical satellite tracking, perhaps these schmucks weren't paying for it? http://gcaptain.com/bunker-tanker-hijacked-off-somalia/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626939 << you don't see anything suspicious about machine coming up with two 60 digit long primes within subsecond times, Framedragger ? ☝︎
a111: 2017-02-17 <mthreat> people who don't shower in jail/prison are called 'vikings', or another name in Spanish which I forget. There is peer pressure to not stink in there.
mircea_popescu: poor gromyko. he's like in half the jokes isn't he.
mircea_popescu: wich is why rayon plant isn't engaged in the practice of "see kids, organic chemistry!" experiments
mircea_popescu: yes, but then asciilifeform gets pissed off that the heads aren't cut :D
mircea_popescu: average gauleiter actually gains more from secretaries NOT HAVING ink ribbons so they can't do their job than from their HAVING ink ribbons and doing their job.
ben_vulpes: forwarding is swiss cheese, i don't even think that's for sale
ben_vulpes: i figured the boats were under constant optical satellite tracking, perhaps these schmucks weren't paying for it? http://gcaptain.com/bunker-tanker-hijacked-off-somalia/ ☟︎
asciilifeform: but it ain't dead. not yet.
Framedragger: i won't insist - you're right, we've already just had that chat on #b-a
asciilifeform: Framedragger: at the risk of repeating old thread : there is no way to 'replace bitcoin with trbi'. it isn't a thing that can be done.
asciilifeform: well unless you are a telepath, you don't know 'actual source'
asciilifeform: Framedragger: remember, we aren't usg, don't have to STANDARDIZE FOR ALL TIME!!!111
asciilifeform: no i don't want to throw away what little separation linux provides.
asciilifeform: ideally i wouldn't use udp per se, but udp-with-altered-protocol-number, per mircea_popescu's ancient idea
Framedragger: i'm sure it's less than that especially as you don't need to save state/session info
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the problem with tcp isn't simply that enemy can insert an RST packet and make you blame your peer. (and whitelists do 0 against this.) but that it is very expensive , computationally, long before you have any idea who you're talking to. ☟︎
trinque: whole idea is to get them outside the press, so you don't have to copy them in each time you press
mircea_popescu: he wouldn't keep them in any case
ben_vulpes: warning and stopping doesn't really help, as i see it.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'd like to defend him by noting that social network != social media but dude's command of english leaves enough to be desired that this distinction isn't much of a leg to stand on
pete_dushenski: anyways Framedragger, i don't read nassim's use of 'social network' to refer to the zuckermovie or anything of the sort. he's naive but not ignorant enough to miss filtering effects. he'd doubtless include irc and pgpgrams in the category of mandarin-disrupting two-way comms. but i agree that his point is obscured by loose language.
pete_dushenski: see u guise, email isn't dead! it was just sleeping. that's not blood coming from its ears and eyes, just catsup
BingoBoingo: lol, well doesn't keep new marks from trying
mircea_popescu: maybe that, but the secret of that is that you'd have to be a stupid as a 20yo "didn't like math" girl to imagine that is something to do.
mircea_popescu: o shit, i didn't put the quotes in. blerg.
asciilifeform: if i had a ticket to the mythical planet where programmers aren't retarded and 'the shame of poverty' is not smelled, we would not even be having the trb conversation.
asciilifeform: trinque: don't put wire-trb on your icbm-controller box. the skull is there for a reason.
mircea_popescu: "hey, we didn't say it is EXPERIMENTALLY secure now did we! door's that way and don't forget your social security contributions."
ben_vulpes: but the pseudo-useful key generator is /cryptographically secure/ mircea_popescu, i don't know what you're complaining about
mircea_popescu: stop squirming and don't make trusting noobs rm-rf-nuke the wrong things!