asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: atm i'm not even in a place where i can say who's what is buggy
asciilifeform: seems like the closest thing to a working keccak-vtron currently is phf's v98 tho
asciilifeform: i was able to regrind ffa today, using phf's vdiff, but atm cannot yet press and confirm that it actually presses to same thing as the classical
asciilifeform: phf: fwiw my orig v.py is pretty sad in several wellknown ways -- i'm not particularly attached to it, would happily take mod6's, if there were (did i miss??) a ver of it patched to work in keccak
asciilifeform: with all respect to phf -- it seems to me that he's the one with the nonstandard envir
asciilifeform: really, nobody ? why is it that nobody until phf's v98 felt inclined to change the routine, then ?
asciilifeform: so loox like i'll be going with button 'a' .
asciilifeform: i will not be answerable for a 3GB ball of shit, there aint even 1% of the necessary hrs to read it, left in my lifespan
asciilifeform: phf: i dun want to glom python-gnupg into vtron tho!
asciilifeform: i can't think of anyffing to do but a) make flensed version of phf's that actually worx here, i have NO intention of breaking my legacy toolchain in which i still have 90000 unconverted private patches or b) bake an e.g. if gpg.__version__ = phf : ... else .... thing
asciilifeform: i dun have any cuntoo boxes here yet. all of my dev machines run vintage gentoo, where the gpg that python-gnupg sees is gpg2 (cuz idjit portage pulled it in, long ago). asciilifeform's actual pgp-ing happens on diff machine, naturally, with 1.4.10 . but apparently phf's hack for subkeyism breaks the thing in this combo.
asciilifeform: tho i'm beginning to suspect the culprit :
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf for that matter, it does same thing! with yours! pray tell how didja even test the v98 thing, on what.
asciilifeform: right. but i'm regrinding ch1-11 into keccak. ought manifest only to live in ch12 ( 11 technically had one, but it was adhoc, and not conformant to current formulation ) ? or in all ch1-11
asciilifeform: currently looking into how diana_coman did it
asciilifeform: imho also. the q is what's the most accurate , given that orig had no manifest
asciilifeform: but no, somehow gotta barnacle on orig.
asciilifeform: imho if the franks, or the visigoths, want diff sorting order when alphabetizing, they oughta have proclaimed a FSCII and VGSCII etc
asciilifeform: ( observe, the WHOLE fucking problem ascii standard was meant to solve, quietly got 'reopened' by the unitards )
asciilifeform: originally i was gonna simply regrind ( by running through new vdiff ) ch1-11, and invite reader to hand-diff if he likes and see that only hashes have changed. but then noticed that the new vdiff also processes files in different order, so this won't give clean 'only hashes' diff. so thinking, may as well retrofit manifest to each of ch1-11
asciilifeform in the process of keccakizing ffa, hence practical q
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite unrelatedly, what's your recommended formula for 'manifest' in keccak regrinds ? ( i.e. to retrofit manifest to ancient stuff, or only to latest v cut of it ? and with current blockheight, or to somehow estimate the one at the time of original publication ? )
asciilifeform: where is the comicbook wall in the bg ?
asciilifeform: even on asciilifeform's home planet, good chunk of marriages were 'soft-arranged' -- i.e. 'comrade colonel, you have a bachelor son, i have a ripe daughter' 'comrade lt colonel, let's box'em in a room, wainot'☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: this one's somehow not a mystery to good 80+% of globe
asciilifeform: well yes, notice asciilifeform did not say ' eh shined boots, who needs'em '
asciilifeform: lol i thought it was 'keep boots shined or else'
asciilifeform: picture if an accountant were to walk into an ameri-board with tally of the ~actual~ cost of running winblowz.
asciilifeform: power co.'s calculate resistive losses on high voltage lines, but for some peculiar reason no one (afaik) ever tallies up the real-life cost of this idjicy.
asciilifeform: why not use that 8th bit of the byte for something actually constructive...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871482 << i find it interesting that uniturdism is ubiquitous, but html etc is still stuck poaching perfectly ordinary 'telex' characters (i.e. found on keyboard) as 'magic' values☝︎
