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a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 20:29 asciilifeform: what sort of nonsense is
this.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525750 << your mental model of a functional monolithical sensible "meta-nsa" is contradicted by
the practice. a lot of redundancy is baked in by legions of mindless, not
terribly intelligent, here
today and gone
tomorrow "analysts", "experts", "contractors" and whatnot, with management broadly unaware of what
the situation is.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: you're going
to have
to pay a fine if you do more
than a dozen lines in succession you hear ?
phf: i
thought you said "what is on
the agenda", i spent a few minutes
trying
to interpret
those subjects in a nefarios way
hanbot: oh i saw
that in kindergarten (NO.)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, speaking of "medieval" organs, everyone knows
the hysterical "notre dame des courants d'air" scene i
trust ?
phf: i always sort of assumed
that harmoniums were brought
to india by
traveling european bums, as an approximation of motherland culture, and stuck
mircea_popescu: i suppose
there is merit
to
this point, which is
to say, "nutty central command economy mp wouldn't have ever come up with harmoniums, because
they are stupid."
PeterL: organs were
typically build with muscle driven bellows before electric motor was invented
hanbot: incidentally, why are
there no pianists on
those long, scrolling walkways in airport
terminal connectors? could put
the music up along
the handrail.
mircea_popescu: well i do
think it's pretty stupid, other
than for
the endearing/cultural value.
mircea_popescu: yes. moreover, "thinking about my
things as
things rather
than as extensions of my identity is VERY BAD SCARY AND EVIL"
mircea_popescu: the other possibility, however, is
that it comes from
the same place a love of
tchotchkes comes.
mircea_popescu: just for kicks /me imagines alf becoming a
talk show host, having 45 different microphones implanted in his ears. for science.
hanbot: i use multiple panels but keep
those i'm not actively looking at
turned off. otherwise i can actually perceive
time being wasted mulling between
them.
mircea_popescu: and
the contention is
that not only not all cuts are worth making in software :
this one definitely isn't.
mircea_popescu: more over : it was over
the merits of implementing a specific cut in hardware vs software.
mircea_popescu: again,
the discussion was re a specific bit of software.
PeterL: so adding more panels is ok, but having
tiles is not?
mircea_popescu: but if i add panels, i
tend
to also add boxes for
them.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 18:40 mircea_popescu: phf what
the fuck is wrong with just flipping pages / adding more panels if flipping is
THAT big a deal
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 12:40 mircea_popescu: so on other news, i am writing
teh republic's "cia factbook", and on
the matter of gdp i would like
to have an estimate of
the "fair market value of
the
total
time donated
to republic during 2015" in
the estimation of everyone involved. detailed is better, but nothing over a page omg.
PeterL: how is having
two panels different from having
tiled display?
mircea_popescu: twenty years ago people were petrified of naught more
than having
to call me on
the phone.
mircea_popescu: i have some notifications, but
the penalty for fucking with it idly is indeed high.
mircea_popescu: unless im doing something on other display, in which case it scrolls on
this screen
mircea_popescu: often it actually is analyst-produced, because yes, phf intuitscorrectly,
the ~only
thing a "process" in
the sense of, bash window is, is a very cheap version of mazarin's informants. who wrote him letters. which he read... on a non-tiling display.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, phf has it, ~most if not all
training for high performance human operator could be summarized as "how
to merge multistream in your head"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that sounds like uniquely poor design and you should butcher
the whoeverts did
that
to you.
phf: those
techniques are seen as necessary in a situation
that is suboptimal. yes, you need
throttle and rudder, but it would've been better if you only had one
PeterL: I
typically have lowest ~inch of irc visible with something else on
top of it
to work on
mircea_popescu: 45 different scrolling shits aren't specifically better
tyhan one.
mircea_popescu: moreover,
the point is
that human brain is human brain and you're not changing it. it has ONE attention flow. you use it as best you can.
phf: there's multiple
training systems
that are supposed
to
teach an operator how
to deal with multiple inputs in high stress situations (like cockpit, or nuclear powerplant), and
the
techniques are all reduced
to "how
to perceive multiple streams as a single stream"
phf: PeterL:
that's actually a well known counter examples
that supports
the opposite of what you're
trying
to say
phf: the point might be
that a single information stream is always superior
to multiple streams.
the second comes from necessity (there's no
time or desire
to find a way
to merge
them,
there's no analyst
to merge
them for you, etc.). it's always a better state when you can only have one, in which case
tiling is a pointless concept. you only ever have one stream.
mircea_popescu: wars have been won over army one having 3 buttons and army
two having 7 buttons.
mircea_popescu: you know, contrary
to
the
tv version of blinkenlichten, in cockpit design, and ESPECIALLY for combat or any sort of emergency situation, more items are regarded as a serious liability.