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mircea_popescu: AND HOLD IT THERE.
mircea_popescu: you know the "is it true aspirin is contraceptive" ?
asciilifeform: reminds me of the old saw with 'yer suppose to ~take~ the bc pill, for it to work'
mircea_popescu: true truth, i saw it.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell felipelalli y'know, znc is supposed to go on RELIABLE, remote box... not the comp on your desk.
mircea_popescu: tho in fairness more girls got boys that way.
mircea_popescu: ah, yeah, ankle hook was permitted. if you count that as wrestling.
phf: because you couldn't really test strength against girl, that was inconceivable and those who tried were just weirdos (not to mention testing strength against girl the fuck), but if you managed to do a sneak drop
mircea_popescu: phf by and large the deep driver being that girls at that age suck, being as they are ~marmots. babyfat bubbles on uneasy legs.
phf: i think wrestle also required trickery
mircea_popescu: anyway, it got pretty much all of the girls wearing dresses.
asciilifeform distinctly recalls recent case of boy condemned to insane asylum in usaschwitz for pulling pants off gurl.
mircea_popescu: that was more of a summer thing though.
mircea_popescu: 10yo acceptable maneuvers re girls were a) throwing soft snowball (really hard iced ones were for boys only!) ; sticking snow behind neck but only if done with trickery (ie, if the girl was aware she's about to get it you couldn't do it) and finally pulling pants off. bonus points if also underwear.
asciilifeform: i can almost picture this.
phf: there's mtg but there's not even trade around mtg, afaiu it is heavily mediated through parents "so it that it's fair"
asciilifeform: also i dun see the connection with wrestling (in what school do little kids not wrestle one another?)
asciilifeform: how do you make that.
mircea_popescu: phf that was a banned maneuver in my place.
phf: ah the old art of wrestling the girl into snow
asciilifeform: but 'naturam expellas furca tamen usque recurret' (tm) (r) so betcha they have SOMETHING.
mircea_popescu: the ~reason we monetized these was because a) we'd snowball the girls into little piles as soon as the snow came and b) we'd wrestle hundreds of times a day.
asciilifeform: i did not go to ~these~ schools, no.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they don't. these spontaneous monetizations are spontaneous from an interplay of sexuality and violence which does not exist in anglo world.
asciilifeform: was quite reminiscent of the chewing gum.
asciilifeform: in one of the american schools i went to as a kid, they had 'magic the gathering'
BingoBoingo: microagressions aren't real. There's just actual aggressions and thinskinned butthurt
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if even today schoolboys did not have these 'spontaneous monetizations'
mircea_popescu: no lol. these are turkish makers.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: was any of this a thing on your side of the ocean ?
asciilifeform: i remember ~all of these.
mircea_popescu: i think the yellow tvr was the most valuable.
phf: i remember that aston martin one it was a much coveted item because of the cyberpunk lady http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6pAAAOSwZ8ZW2yJW/s-l1600.jpg in fact i remember half of these.
diana_coman: hm, deedbot handed me 2 broomsticks before handing the OTP link (in the third try)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, them!
BingoBoingo: anyways asciilifeform The auction made qntra early
asciilifeform: phf: holy shit, i half-suspected i had the last extant examples.
a111: Logged on 2015-03-07 16:12 mircea_popescu: turbo was for kids tho, we had the one before that. with fake money.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-07#1045502 << found only this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: iirc i even told the story of the gambling game i devised which made me uber rich
asciilifeform: or did i dream this.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/cost-of-wrong-kitty-litter-escalates-into-the-billions-following-nuclear-waste-accident/ << Qntra - Cost Of Wrong Kitty Litter Escalates Into The Billions Following Nuclear Waste Accident
mircea_popescu: yeah well there is also that.
asciilifeform: ('in what?' 'in this big pot of real money you idiots gave me for them, that i PROMISE!1111 never to spend')
mircea_popescu: ie, THESE coins are now going to be SHARES in so and so.
mircea_popescu: nah. the original colored coins was a "let's do mpex over bitcoin network because mp is something you can replace by a napkin sketch of a protocol"
asciilifeform: i see 'coloured coin' as a fundamentally distinct type of chumpatron, 'let's monetize blue Turbo chewing gum wrappers!1111' 'and oh btw i totally don't have a shoebox full of blue'
mircea_popescu: turns out pretense empire always dies the same ways.
mircea_popescu: really, the 1700s are more instructive to the student of modern finance than any available material.
mircea_popescu: then voltaire andsome friends bought all the emissions and so "won" the "lottery"
mircea_popescu: THEN came up with idea of lottery, to repay full value for the serials took from a hat.
asciilifeform: how does that differ from modern bond bezzle ?
mircea_popescu: so they devalued
mircea_popescu: well, state issued "rents", ie, you give them so much and they give you so much back.
mircea_popescu: (anyone up to date on the lulz that passed for fiscal management of the kingdom back in 1750s ? )
mircea_popescu: also money lottery was popular in the time of voltaire
mircea_popescu: i suppose some soapy smith somewhere did something like this.
asciilifeform: i was thinking of direct analogue of 'coloured coin', that is, 'issued' by derp who has 0 connection to the mint
mircea_popescu: to get you the actual pointers i'd have to dig out through my official history of currency trainingbook which i continents ago misplaced.
mircea_popescu: also case of "converbile - but only so and so numbers monday ; so and so tuesday" etc.
asciilifeform: phf: these never circulated
mircea_popescu: case of "only odd digit is good from now on" instead of making new currency, to stablize
phf: try buying a $1000 bill for less than $1700
mircea_popescu: lol no, this was variously done.
asciilifeform: i knew it! mircea_popescu will answer 'that one time in new york in '68...'
mircea_popescu: but they did.
asciilifeform: how come nobody (afaik) ever tried this, btw, with paper money ?
shinohai: I'll gladly make someone coloured coin and relieve them of good BTC
asciilifeform cannot speak for others, but is neither 'bored enough' nor sees the point.
mircea_popescu: though it should not happen prior to 2018, i expect a lot of dao-lolz coming out of what's fundamentally a middling design.
mircea_popescu: heck, we might even implement sidechains of whatever fashionable flavour of the month, as a bold-on, if anyone's bored enough.
mircea_popescu: that they make segwit ; that we make deedbot (the two are not even vaguely dissimilar, by the way, except prb doesn't know how to code cleanly), is really nobody's problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'segwit' thing is, as i understand, intended as a protocol hardfork - to isolate trb users.
mircea_popescu: you can count on 1`000`000 bytes ~ every six minutes til kingdom come. that's your bitcoin footprint.
asciilifeform: node operation, in the present implementation of the braindamage, is almost a 'religious' act
mircea_popescu: this is all fine. and they're more than welcome to hold whatever sidechain db in whatever manner until they fall over.
mircea_popescu: given the dilemma of http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ the choice was to find a solution that doesn't brick extant miners. understandably.
mircea_popescu: the other side of "segwit" is that there will NEVER be a block size increase. period and full stop.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how you can be forced to store txn you dun wanna.
asciilifeform: this is not only angled as 'we'll sell i-cant-believe-its-not-bitcoin to rubes', but also piggybacks on honest nodes' storage and bandwidth.
ben_vulpes: it's an excellent opportunity to teach about the stealing being stolen.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they got nuked, currently is all they can try for.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: earlier observation is just that - observation. that turdmeisters apparently wish to live as cockroaches in the crevices of bitcoin, instead of issuing 'honest' plainly labeled usg alt.
mircea_popescu: stupidity is always tragic to the stupid.
ben_vulpes: it's tragic!
ben_vulpes: more tragically, do you know how many social media mommies think that 20 likes on instagram trump 3 girlfriends who'll come over and hold their kid while the smm sobs over a lost parent?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, do you know how many think they have seven sons ?
mircea_popescu: do you know how many people think they have "money in the bank", a la http://trilema.com/2013/time-for-europe-to-repeal-the-us-backed-aml-crap/ ?
mircea_popescu: do you know how many people think "500 followers" means 500 followers ?
mircea_popescu: there's no end to the human capacity for self delusion - which is fundamentally the point of our discussion coupla days ago. you can't have a protocol that keeps people from being stupid.
asciilifeform: it is laughable, but appears to have successfully depressed, e.g., gold price.
mircea_popescu: there's the regular idiots who think themselves "rich", esr style.
mircea_popescu: there's also people who imagine they "have a voice" ; or "social media power" or whatnot.
asciilifeform: there will (and perhaps already are) a multitude of chumpers who believe they have X btc, while really they have some quantity Q, possible 0, of actual btc, and X-Q of gavinola, which consists of tx, somehow elaborately processed, that trb rejects as noise, and display as wtf 'shot into the sun' crapolade in any civilized block viewer
mircea_popescu: just as much as i cared about the 2012 variant.
mircea_popescu: sure, this will prolly "be implemented" ; then some idiots will "use it" ; then we'll get some "oh mp is a scammer because i sent him 5 btc he's not recognizing" threads on reddit.
asciilifeform: rejecting thousands of turds per hours as it is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing obliges you to accept transactions that don't conform.
asciilifeform: it isn't even a wholly ineffectual tool - worked on, e.g., linux.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 00:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511937 << oh, "color revolutions" dun work ? tell you what, we'll steal your country's exports and with the proceeds finance an alt-country we'll pretend is realy your country. ha-ha!