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mircea_popescu: because preference, definitionally, is a choice between two or more present things.
asciilifeform: how is that not 'preference' ?
asciilifeform: (re the ww2 folk who starved on account of refusing to eat insect)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we did, iirc, have a crashed pilot thread
mircea_popescu: and in further historical trilema lulz, http://trilema.com/2009/eu-am-un-succes-nebun-la-femei/
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "the preferences" of the virgin. virgins have no preferences.
mircea_popescu: when it's a case that your boss wants you to do overtime, his competitor wants you to move over and there's five headhunters heating your phone, THEN you consider it's time to ask for a raise.
mircea_popescu: when it's a case that you're already fucking tanja, jennifer, rachel and the bubblebutt sisters, and this hottie cinema user begs you to let her come in with you and massage your feet while you watch the movie, and you're too exhausted to think that's a good idea, THEN you start thinking what you prefer, and ditch some of the crowd.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this hallucination of choice, "i am getting none and will tell you what i won't accept" is the universal symptom of elliot-idiocy not just in elliot, but in everyone. AFTER you get MORE than you can handle, THEN you can express preference. not before. never before.
mircea_popescu: sexuate copulation being, in ALL species, the absolute lowest bar conceivable. numeration is a higher achievement.
mircea_popescu: kid is a wonder to behold, he effortlessly succeeds at things virtually none of his compatriots ever do, such as killing people (note how many of the "i shot a buncha losers" types are actually first generation or further as opposed to malibu-beachouse-timesharing-lizzardkin) or keeping his nose clean (seriously, find someone in californa born 80s or prior who is not and will not smoke), and then is all bitter and butthurt o
mircea_popescu: cuz i had nfi there was anyone left in california who didn't ganja
asciilifeform: (and in usa, bmw is not a rare or esp. precious item, this is not moscow circa '92, any idiot can max out his reddit card & 'own' one)
asciilifeform: schmuck in bmw is just a schmuck in bmw, not a picker of chix, just as if asciilifeform were to put on a priceless 16th c. samurai armour, he would not thereby become a samurai.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 05:09 BingoBoingo: "Somehow the thought that he could have just taken that [shiny new BMW, by the way] ride of his over to Burbank or something and picked up one (or two, or three) of the black girls that perenially prop the street lights waiting for something [such as private movie theatres in Malibu mansions] to happen never occurs. Hell is other people for some people ; but apparently sometimes hell is just the hole in one's own head." << "And through w
asciilifeform: now if dope were something one could download! then.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 04:48 BingoBoingo: Starting to seem like the only thing that could have saved broken elliot would have been going all in on the booze. Not getting girls drunk, but getting himself black out drunk until he developed the alcoholism and his life became unmanageable for relateable reasons.
BingoBoingo: orking these steps we shall find a new Freedom and a new happiness... We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us" (TM)(R)
BingoBoingo: "Somehow the thought that he could have just taken that [shiny new BMW, by the way] ride of his over to Burbank or something and picked up one (or two, or three) of the black girls that perenially prop the street lights waiting for something [such as private movie theatres in Malibu mansions] to happen never occurs. Hell is other people for some people ; but apparently sometimes hell is just the hole in one's own head." << "And through w ☟︎
BingoBoingo: "Both my friends James and Philip seem to be the weak, accepting type; whereas I am the fighter. I will never stand to be insulted, and I will eventually have my revenge against all those who insult me, no matter how long it takes." << Dude needed a real enemy
BingoBoingo: Maybe he's get lucky and the B12 deficiency encephaly would break his brain into working
BingoBoingo: Starting to seem like the only thing that could have saved broken elliot would have been going all in on the booze. Not getting girls drunk, but getting himself black out drunk until he developed the alcoholism and his life became unmanageable for relateable reasons. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if all this guy's guides/howtos/whatever are like that, it's no wonder his clientele has issues.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-sex/ << Trilema - The Story of Elliot Rodger. By Elliot Rodger. Adnotated. Part Sex.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 22:02 covertress: asciilifeform: if i do, you'll be the last to know
shinohai did it for the glory of Baal of course
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-27#1530222 << ahahahaha teh blasphemiez! ☝︎
lobbes: help page noted. I'll put it first in the queue
lobbes: of course, if I finally got to adding search on the logs, maybe it'd be easier to find this out :/
lobbes: but now it is there twice :P
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 14:14 mircea_popescu: jurov now there is : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-08-26.log.html#t14:13:32
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1529720 << lol, lobbesbot has had this for a few months btw. It is supybot pretty much, so all the favorites are there: later, seen, calc, etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but the point remains.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's harem is typical american marriahe the way my battlestation is typical amer pc.
mircea_popescu: you seriously imagine fear of retribution keeps my harem together ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem with your view it's that it's so damned adversarial.
pete_dushenski: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3uauu8ss8YY/V7-qnTD7JyI/AAAAAAAAnGQ/WUQ121zzWegsEQ77pLVhy_4iS2zTDThSACLcB/s640/NGFT8iIu1r4ddooUcbYeP9eWY_XCjenfVugh0sQGf38.jpg << that's one way to use an old stadium (in osaka). cost-effective at least. /me wonders about property values in the interior
pete_dushenski: not like persians didn't try to make own hoplites, but inevitably ended up buying existing mercs because short-term it was the only practicable solution
asciilifeform: the jews of old europe understood this, and - best as i know - NEVER invoked the goyish judicial system on whatever pretext, when dispute was wholly internal
asciilifeform: and eventually devolves to the usual 'star topology'.
asciilifeform: but to copy it you need a reasonably self-contained tribal machine for settling disputes, otherwise devolves to a contest of who can invoke usg library calls to moar effect.
pete_dushenski: perhaps like making own trojan though - need thousand years, not thousand days
asciilifeform: the others - can try to copy, or make own.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: it's arguably a historically accidental set, this.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: strictly the set of folk who dun have a hassan and ibrahim.
pete_dushenski: what's this 'rest of us' thing ?
asciilifeform: mega-solution for the rest of us.
asciilifeform: and yes, if woman knows that your cousins hassan and ibrahim will douse her in petrol and light if she takes you to usg divorce court -- she probably won't.
asciilifeform: folks who do not fall into one of these clans, end up in the inca's star topology and get raped.
asciilifeform: just ask the mormons, nyc hassids, etc.
asciilifeform: if you run a sufficiently tight imperium in imperio, usg gets to bite its elbows and you can get away with pretty much anything, so long as the wall is tall enough.
mircea_popescu: stop hating them ; start training them.
mircea_popescu: but the overarching, important point is that "some whore" is by far your best ally, and sharpest instrument.
asciilifeform: star topology.
asciilifeform: when you buy car from car co. instead of trading for barrel of rum from blood clan, jew cackles. etc.
asciilifeform: and yes, orlov put this point in book length, when you borrow money from banks instead of your blood clan, jew cackles, and coins ring in usg coffer, etc.
asciilifeform: which is what they typically do.
mircea_popescu: every time you fuck over your fellow man, an usg nigger and libertard jew cackle in glee.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you meritwash the kid and appoint him as director of the usual faux charity/corp/etc. usg gets 0.
mircea_popescu: generally, socialist state eats out of societal disension. this is not going away.
asciilifeform: but interestingly the right to invoke the usg support mechanism ~cannot be signed away~ in usa.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a whole array of settlements and structured etcs available. moreover, if you keep that money and kid inherits it, usg steals 60% not 20%
asciilifeform: if it is a 'silent understanding' in, e.g., amicable divorce - then no usg vig
asciilifeform: if it is arranged via official channels, and is legally termed 'child support' - as in , was sued for - then it is.
mircea_popescu: but yes, they do try to eat as much as they can of anything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu surely knows this.
mircea_popescu: depends how you arrange it. dun have to be.
asciilifeform: who then passes on ~80% of it.
asciilifeform: but to usg.
asciilifeform: incidentally in usa, child support is not a cheque to the child's mother
pete_dushenski: i've heard of this 'blackholing money' thing. was all the rage circa 2007/8
mircea_popescu: back to the topic : if you're rich, it's probably a bad idea for fiscal reasons to skimp on child support.
BingoBoingo: More on that classist breeding http://www.kew.org/discover/blogs/kew-science/taming-savage-cabbage
asciilifeform: 'rich people' in the usual sense do not have this problem.
mircea_popescu: we were talking rich people, not rotinculo.
asciilifeform: esp. among the breeding class.
mircea_popescu: where you got that statistic from lol
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and to kid, and not to some whore. << Because of Classism.
asciilifeform: and to kid, and not to some whore.
asciilifeform: or wish to transfer, CONDITIONALLY
mircea_popescu: ie, sooner or later you will want to transfer some money to these children. do it sooner rather than later, escape some tax burden
pete_dushenski: greenspun, despite appearing to be happily married and fathering and what have you, is ~obsessed~ with alimony / child support / no fault divorce litigation in the states. he openly advocates that young ladies skip 'career' and instead have illegitimate children with lawyers, dentists, school principals, etc.
mircea_popescu: look : the entire profession of estate lawyer is this : "you want to transfer X sugar from A to B ; with ants eating as little as possible on the way. This is how you time-attack the ants :"
asciilifeform: billionaire's sperm costs more to grow into adult, or wat.
asciilifeform: the fiction is that it has something to do with what it costs to grow a kid, but the reality does not at all resemble the fiction.
asciilifeform: can 'half-competent' estate atty explain why billionaire owes moar of it than pauper ?
mircea_popescu: but virtually any half-competent estate/tax attorney will explain to you it's fucking dumb to skimp on child support.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely separate thing from that also.
mircea_popescu: us is one of those places which piss on testaments.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform technically it's quite sensible as it's deferred inheritance.
asciilifeform: (ianal, but the talmudic fiction is that it is 'a right of the child')
asciilifeform: and the 'child support' thing is wholly separate from alimony and contracts have 0 effect.
mircea_popescu: there is also that.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: in the anglo world, it is 'unnecessary' in the same way bleeding-as-medicine is. i.e. unless you are a lizard, judge will piss on your prenup.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: hm ? i mean the snowforts of giza and whatnot.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 14:30 thestringpuller: so: "Holla, "We want prenup! We want prenup!" (Yeah!)"
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1529760 << incidentally, a prenup is entirely unnecessary with the advent of bitcoin. but i guess we can forgive kanye given the age of that particular tune. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: what's one to do with the other ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 22:02 covertress: asciilifeform: if i do, you'll be the last to know
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1530099 << lol alf, you got a way with teh ladies, brings out the icy in 'em! ☝︎