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mircea_popescu: i love it when 4 month old muppets imagine their short lifespan compensates for 2year+ history.
opc0d3: mircea_popescu: so you claim that they sell fake contracts down to force people into margin calls?? doubt it. i've been trading there for 4 months, in the black significantly, (im on this list https://icbit.se/WebTrade/top.aspx ) and have made multiple withdrawls.
benkay: i would put the a.c. outside for the night if that hit my radar unsolicited.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the entire "bitcoin is fiat" argument fails to comprehend that the only true scarcity is mathematical in nature.
nubbins`: benkay: i'm not the one with an aesthetics subcommittee.
opc0d3: I doubled my BTC buying futures at ICBIT.se, the greatest and largest futures exchange of all time
opc0d3: MPEX going to zero. how do i short MPEX. +1 ICBIT.se
benkay: i think the implication is that it's a currency by consensus
benkay: i find myself trying to convince people of stuff again dammit :(
dub: erryday I hear, 'no really what are you really cracking'
benkay: i'm still trying to formulate an argument against people who hold that bitcoin is fiat currency
benkay: given that i can take my buttcorns down to ye local banker and turn them into commodities, this is idiocy on idiocy, right?
benkay: but occasionally i find myself confronted by a wall insufficiently arted
benkay: nubbins`: when a thing strikes me as being of high quality, i generally submit it to the aesthetics comittee for discussion and then instruct said aesthetes to purchase the thing
benkay: on an entirely different topic, i fly to argentina tomorrow. i'd be glad to act as a proxy in buenos aires for, you know, not *anyone*, but people in this channel with btc-related inquiries
benkay: i exercise veto all the time, man. neural nets need feedback to work correctly.
nubbins`: i thought we were all mad here
nubbins`: in that context, yes, i suppose you'd only have the opinion of the "powerful" on which to rely
benkay: and i only deploy capital against aesthetic things when it's going to have some sort of caloric return. eg: "babe, take this small pile of capital and deploy it making this space look nice. that way when clients come by they won't be horrified by my abysmal decoration and might actually be impressed by my aesthetic committee's performance"
benkay: i did find the line about equivalency between aesthetic value and caloric value amusing
mircea_popescu: i been tryin to tell him
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Kleeck_: "Rats. I hate rats."
bitcoin349: If the rat is on their computer from when I sent it without hiding my ip then I uninstall it before wiretransfering funds through bitcoin on a virtual machine with different settings and hiding ip on 3 layers would I be traced or would their not be a log in the ISP of the info about the rat.
pankkake: wow pretty good drawing. i think I would have trouble with the teeth
mircea_popescu: actually i think it wasn't bad.
nubbins`: now you know why i leave the drawing to others
mircea_popescu: now you know how i feel.
nubbins`: made it a couple of paragraphs in before realizing that i already knew how the conversation would go
nubbins`: that's the best representation of our conversation that i could come up with
nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/UXMRkTT.png
pankkake: is this art? http://i.imgur.com/lBx4YGG.png ☟︎
nubbins`: wait til i draw it ;)
mircea_popescu: wait till i publish it :)
nubbins`: if i didn't wish to discuss it, i wouldn't. this is great.
nubbins`: oh, but i do!
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "i found a 500 year old kinda cool painting"
mircea_popescu: that's it right there. i'm the guy who sez.
mircea_popescu: "so what's this idea ?" "it's nothing" "Then why am I watching it ?" "because it's on tv" "not yet."
nubbins`: after all, what's a bigger beat-off than "i'm the guy who sez what's art and what's not"?
mircea_popescu: i've shown the approach not to really work, we can move on
mircea_popescu: but this has little to do. you were discussing a particular application of the theory, with what i took as a view to reduce it to absurd.
mircea_popescu: i pop into someone's house by the intermediate agency of his wife which is now my slave
nubbins`: i'm not sure we would
mircea_popescu: i have to prove naught. i just make the art be art.
mircea_popescu: when i say "it's art because X feels Y" i may be right. when you say "it's art because I feel Y" you're certain to be wrong.
mircea_popescu: it's quite a case of "you're cured if and when i say you're cured".
nubbins`: "it's art if i say it's art"
mircea_popescu: does the oncology patient go "all is well doc, i feel cured" ?
nubbins`: "i'm cured if my condition is gone"
nubbins`: "it's art if i tell you it's art"
nubbins`: "you're cured if i say you're cured"
nubbins`: someone says a piss pot "is art to me". i don't care, because whether it's art to them has no bearing on whether it's art to me
mircea_popescu: looky, this trick where you go "mpex is too hard, i don;'t understand it ; therefore we must all glbse because there's no other way to do it" isn't logically sound.
nubbins`: or, y'know, occam's razor. it's art if i think it's art.
nubbins`: suppose person X says "this sculpture i've commissioned is art" and person Y says "nay, you are my subject, and i declare it to be not-art"
nubbins`: i'm merely offering the simplest explanation for the fact that there are so many things which some people call art and other people don't
nubbins`: i disagree, but my disagreement merely illustrates my point
mircea_popescu: more's the point : your example is counterfactual. i would never talk to some anodyne serf woman,
nubbins`: oh fuck i smell smoke hold on
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i dunno what cats have to do with this. is it an internet thing ?
dexX7: https://www.google.com/search?q=fringe+observer but i'm sure you know ;)
mircea_popescu: yes, because i am the one discussing art,
nubbins`: to propose that i hold any position relative to its creator, above or below, is simply nonsense
nubbins`: about five years ago, i moved into an apartment and found a large piece of wall panelling with a picture painted on the back side of it. it's currently gracing the wall of my living room.
mircea_popescu: i know.
nubbins`: and i find such a stance so bizarre that i'm not even sure where to begin picking it apart
mircea_popescu: no, i am flat out stating that.
nubbins`: i dunno, man. maybe i'm applying too much of my interpretation of your "system" into your words, but it seems like you're flat-out stating that it's not art unless someone in a position of power or influence over the artist decrees it to be so
nubbins`: if the random bozo creates something that i like, what else would i call him?
mircea_popescu: ah. well i wouldn't know "your" system. what you've written so far is coherent with naive nominalism, ie the ideology of all youths. occam requires it be described as such.
nubbins`: i'm curious to know what your description of my system would be
mircea_popescu: it's kinda what i think when i hear star wars.
nubbins`: i'm still trying to figure out if i should determine the nature of your point or the nature of your system first!
mircea_popescu: you know this because i can enact my point in your system, but you can't enact your point in mine.
mircea_popescu: btw i answered your comments noobins :D
pankkake: that's why I don't like to order stuff outside of the EU :/
nubbins`: i sold some poor EU guy a rare casascius coin a while back. he insisted on insuring it for its full value, and was very sad when he had to pay hundreds of dollars before they released his package
Pantoo: i was looking to see if he had said anything else about the SEC and noticed he made that update earlier. wonder how long till others notice
pankkake: http://www.angelfoodcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/I-have-no-idea-what-I-am-doing.jpg ActimeMining in a nutshell
Pantoo: I see ken was exaggerating about the SEC and mislead everyone who has been building off of his statement... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3430985#msg3430985
nubbins`: i'm much more interested in flatstock than fabric these days
benkay: i'm still mulling over how to integrate cardanos into my existing key mgmt scheme
kakobrekla: nubbins` yeah that one, somalia it was i reckon
nubbins`: ah! you must be one of the slovenia/slovakia packages i'm guessing?
kakobrekla: i heard im getting some!
nubbins`: i run a print studio
truffles: well im not smart enough for the nerd title otherwise i see no probs with it, but ofc some ppl are sensitive about this stuff
truffles: i personally dont consider myself one ldo
nubbins`: although i think the banking system in america is very different from here in canada.
nubbins`: there's always credit unions, i guess
Jere_Jones: And, as far as I can tell, there aren't any real good options when it comes to banks.
Jere_Jones: Let's be clear, I don't want BoA to succeed *because* they are issuing mortgages to people who can't afford them. I want BoA to succeed *because* they have my money.
nubbins`: i don't think that many of the people bleating in the AM threads on btctalk have the same level of clarity
Jere_Jones: I'm not *happy* about needing BoA to not fail. But I would be in a bad spot if it did.
Jere_Jones: In both cases, I believe my answer would be yes. Because my financial well-being is related to both.
nubbins`: i'm ambivalent about their success
Jere_Jones: Don't get me wrong, I want ASICMiner to succeed. But I don't think the box is news.
Jere_Jones: I'm not even sure those are new. Sounds suspiciously like 3 blades in a box to me.
nubbins`: AM1 made it all the way to 0.88 earlier, i guess people are really expecting a lot of suckers to buy those new box erupters or whatever they're called