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mircea_popescu: cast a wide net of tormentors looking for a handout, watch em squirm basically.
mircea_popescu: understand old man psychology : the whole world is made out of younger men
mircea_popescu: admittedly, the traditional behaviour of intellectual types.
mircea_popescu: he didn't seem to want to personally do anything past telling the others what they should be doing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and his (alleged) plan to buy back 'respectability' with money is uncharacteristically foolish << i didn't read any such plan in there. just, "i want money" "what for ?" "fuck you lol:
mircea_popescu: <decimation> eh? weren't nearly all the 'returning jews' from german backgrounds? << yep.
mircea_popescu: anyway, quick quiz : who is the first person to have spoken german in public in israel post ww2 ?
mircea_popescu: decimation afaik about 40% of the us is actually from germany at some point
mircea_popescu: jurov's from slovakia, that's like 1/2 german, and kako's somalia is an ex german colony. so like 1/6
mircea_popescu: but the respective cultures actually accessible and tied in.
mircea_popescu: it just occured to me that b-a is actually the only place on the english web where german, russian,french, spanish etc are not merely spoken,
mircea_popescu: you know, lightbulbs going out, visibly. because back then ? they did.
mircea_popescu: whoever did the decors put a shitton of intelligent work in
mircea_popescu: if you're curious to get a feel for the actual flavour of everyday bvack then, it's a good primer.
mircea_popescu: they run it because they're not smart enough to even figure there's away out of the paper bag, as a principle.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> decimation: why would iranian ministry of nukes run winblows <<< recall that buenos aires pantalla ?
mircea_popescu: those shitty plastics of the era... not really very mouldable...
mircea_popescu: you can't argue with that part. they got really good at printing them.
mircea_popescu: i thought you were kinda arguing both ends of a candle here :p
mircea_popescu: my own personal opinion is you're taking that too far. srsly, current cpus are worth 80 2014 dollars
mircea_popescu: just, they found ways to repackage cheaper shit as food.
mircea_popescu: it has to be said, again and again, lest anyone forgets : this was designed as a prototype.
mircea_popescu: for FUCKING OBVIOUS reasons, such as... the involvement of pi! this is true for curves too.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform's fond of pointing out to the pi problem of "random numbers", ie, for all you know xth index of pi digits is random
mircea_popescu: but there's also some scienfitic doubt. you really don't know a) how good a "random curve" is n the generla case ; b) you don't really know how to calculate the quality of a good curve.
mircea_popescu: tho i am very suspicious of ecdsa for what you'd call "political" reasons.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> Is there a similar procedure for ECDSA? << sort-of. the exponent is ideally chosen randomly as well as the index.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> how many u.s. expats are willing to, say, break their backs doing actual work for the locals ? << all women that i ever met. srsly.
mircea_popescu: <undata> or hell, loot the nearest shoe store for some nikes if that's all you can muster << petty crime is really a very poor plan.
mircea_popescu: for thatmatter, even 30 years ago, "the us" aka "america" was something you'd have had to be chomsky not to believe in.
mircea_popescu: none of them actually had to hang themselves for this lapse in their youthful judgement,
mircea_popescu: plenty of women woke up one day to discover they married an asshole over the endless count of years.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> - that is, who do you wish to see win? <<< seems rather uncontroversial by now that the us is a rogue state. at least to my eyes. but in two years of this we've yet to meet somerone who actually believes the us to be anything but a criminal organisation.
mircea_popescu: <mats> in my opinion, this is a fundamentally irreconcilable difference between govt agents and intel agents << idealised intel agents. like idealised doctors or lawyers, doing "liberal professions". like naggum's idealised "real programmers". problem is, these people don't exist in the counts you might wish to employ. they exist in short supply.
mircea_popescu: <mats> i get the impression that most americans accept as fact that torture is ineffective << for sure. do you know what else they accept ? that "free markets don't work" and that "socialism is democracy" and all sorts of similar things. do you know why they accept them ? because they want to believe. 16 yo 7/10 valley girl also believes she's "beautiful" and that "she really has a chance". why wouldn't she, as far as
mircea_popescu: it's like saying "wifebeating works as a matrimonial pacification tool".
mircea_popescu: mats> relying on a source that's been tortured, now, thats not useful, but thats why you verify the information... << it's complicated. generally, by the time you have to torture people you're dead in the water.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, hence all teh soviet shiteating jokes.
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> is it weird << notrly. like you know, if you hear a "sailor" talk about "Ships falling off the earth margin" you can also suspect they're the 15yo fibbing variety of seawolf.
mircea_popescu: "we are the clueless horde because everyone is clueless because we are clueless because everyone is clueless because that's all that exists because that's what we are because that's what one should be because that's what one can be because that's what we think because that's what we are because that's what we'ver seen because..."
mircea_popescu: the self-feeding circle of shit. "shit out because shit in because shit out because shit in because..."
mircea_popescu: "When those voices are the only ones heard, it makes wider adoption and acceptance less likely." <<< so says... who ?
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> for many of the redditards it is a ~feels~ social movement, rather than a macro-economic force of nature << like everything else. like, that's all they got.