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trinque: being a killer is not absent in women, though they'll deny it with fuzzy bunnies all day long
trinque: http://trilema.com/2015/peripateticists-kinda-except-girls-not-boys-bare-cunt-instead-of-toga-and-walking-around-the-house-not-the-garden-but-otherwise-exactly-the-same/ << y'know they'll say all this then drown the kids in the bathtub
asciilifeform: btw, 'alice_' (reddit) -- 'I am a tulpa created by a roughly similar process. Except in this case I took over from my creator and she died.' ( https://archive.is/AVQbD )
asciilifeform: and the 'tulpists' do not ?
mircea_popescu: in the past many folks also had better options.
asciilifeform: but in the past not so many folks wanted to enter that state voluntarily.
mircea_popescu: loads of folks there with various "tulpae"
mircea_popescu: it inescapably reminds me of the insane asylum.
asciilifeform: the 'tulpa' thing inescapably reminds me of zweig's 'schachnovelle'
asciilifeform digs in to 'suto' piece
asciilifeform: 'Denmark has become the first country in the world to apparently buy data from the Panama Papers leak, and now plans to investigate whether 500-600 Danes who feature in the offshore archive may have evaded tax. Denmark’s tax minister, Karsten Lauritzen, said he will pay up to DKK9m (£1m) for the information, which comes from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca. He said an anonymous source approached the Danish government over
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/M3Q7D << from fishwrap linked earlier. 'Denmark pays up to £1m for documents from anonymous source and plans to investigate up to 600 Danes who may have evaded tax.'
hanbot: same things like you can." desperately need moar accounts stupidity
hanbot: (from mircea_popescu's latest) "A: A tulpa can think independantly from its creator, can have different opinions, views, tastes, etc. from its creator, provide companionship, talk directly to anyone inside the same body (including its creator and other tulpas), control and manipulate the physical body like you, recall the memories that you have if you give them the permission and more, but basically a tulpa is a conscious mind like you and can do the
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/superficial-ustardian-onanism-suto/ << Trilema - Superficial UsTardian Onanism (SUTO)
asciilifeform: esp. considering that if you show up with so much as a slingshot in public, but for some non-usg-approved reason, you will at the very least be relieved of your valuables (incl. slingshot) by police.
asciilifeform: quite the circus.
trinque: they apparently jammed JS into eggdrop in 2002. ahead of its time.
mircea_popescu: o hey, exactly how wordpress is intended to work!
phf: sort of how back in eggdrop days people would load tons of 3rd party plugins into their bot making it both unstable and exploitable. there was always some buffer overflow in !fart or somesuch
shinohai: asciilifeform !~bible matthew 10:34 <<< this is why I said alf is a vengeful god, no better than Jehovah
asciilifeform: plaintext 'all-comers' net is not a thing long for this world.
asciilifeform: phf: ip ban is also problematic in the sense that enemy can easily spoof any number of faux SYNs from, e.g., my box, to yours
jhvh1: asciilifeform: [KJV] Matthew 10:34 :: Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
jhvh1: phf: [KJV] Matthew 22:21 :: They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
phf: can also implement some kind of nerfing with iptables, using -m limit --limit n/s. there's also a stateful --seconds m --hitcount n
asciilifeform: the kind that accepts tcp conns from all-comers.
asciilifeform: conventional in the 'trb as we now have it' sense.
asciilifeform: the correct way to - while we still must - run traditional bitcoin, is with a wotronic net having 1,001 'tendrils' into heathendom (conventional nodes).
asciilifeform: trinque: 'nothing for showing up' is quite physically impossible with tcp.
asciilifeform: at one time i considered adding, e.g., rate limiter, to trb, but decided that it is not the Right Thing.
asciilifeform: in other noose, 70.33.211.11 (yes, 1 box) has been ddosing trb nodes, in particular zoolag. ☟︎
Framedragger off for now, sorry for pollution; good day for the logs
Framedragger: trinque: ok maybe. but the restriction is an easy way of trapping some non-halting scenarions
Framedragger: i was just testing
trinque: what, you need me to negrate you to make the point? calm down
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 09:25 Framedragger: "butt sex, too"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 09:25 Framedragger: "butt sex, too"
trinque: beat the idiot
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 09:25 Framedragger: "butt sex, too"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 09:25 Framedragger: "butt sex, too"
Framedragger: trinque: you mean, it's okay for bot to keep repeating same line requested by same person in quick succession? hm maybe
trinque: fix that
trinque: wtf is telling it to?
trinque: Framedragger: ftr I don't subscribe to the "bot checks to make sure it doesn't resend lines" party
shinohai: There will be soon on bit-box, got to add one more thing to make it update properly.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-06 16:31 mircea_popescu: lol! review the history. the bar in 2016 is "make a bot" ; the bar in 2014 was "get a gpg key".
mircea_popescu likes to lol.
mircea_popescu: jhvh1 i mean shinohai : is there a web for your bash ?
Framedragger: * Get help slaughtering the mafia states
Framedragger: "i recall this being mentioned before" (tm)
Framedragger: and a bit of simulacra&simulation vibe, too
Framedragger: btw this is such $s il n'y a pas de hors-texte
Framedragger: it's the proper way.
Framedragger: i'll have to re-do the whole dates/times thing anyway once i move to postgres, which i want to do anyway
Framedragger: phf: ...yeah. i wanted to switch to utc so changed environment settings for when it next restarted and then it restarted sooner than expected. SUCH ENGINEERING :/
mircea_popescu: Framedragger we don't cater to stupid.
phf: Framedragger: also i did notice that utc+3 to utc shift midday ;)
Framedragger: i guess it has a socialist bent to it - i thought - noobs won't read actual logs so might as well quote what's actually needed; and, it is useful for when it's just a couple of lines. but it does add to the thickness of logz.
mircea_popescu: or at least they'd god damned better.
Framedragger: makes sense to me
mircea_popescu: though honestly, i'm not sure why it's useful, other than you liking it. people routinely read around linked items.
scriba: [3/3] [15:22:14] <mircea_popescu> this is actually not bad.
scriba: [2/3] [15:22:03] <phf> a111 quoted the two btcbase urls. one of the urls contained mkj url, so scriba quoted that
mircea_popescu: or maybe i should have a way to direct it, i guess, http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:698/to:700#698 > alf then he pms that to alf.
Framedragger: hmm good point, there's pm, too
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i think it should only work in pm.
scriba: [3/3] [15:22:14] <mircea_popescu> this is actually not bad.
scriba: [2/3] [15:22:03] <phf> a111 quoted the two btcbase urls. one of the urls contained mkj url, so scriba quoted that
Framedragger: only question right now, is this http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:698/to:700#698 a good thing - i think that it's not bad, too
Framedragger: regarding readability, yah /me prefers phf's html too, i think :D i'll see about it after more important things are taken care of; but it's prolly good to have different designs, too.
Framedragger: believe it or not bot writers (scriba just piggybacks on a general bot) think about these things, sometimes :p
Framedragger: (if same irc nick invokes same line multiple lines that line won't be repeated foreva; so there's that)
Framedragger: i'm not sure regarding explicit list of bots for each bot for good citizenry / collaboration purposes, but as phf said his bot already does that, kinda.
Framedragger: ah! lol. in relation to mutual recursion, scriba won't repeat same line forever, fwiw; it will switch to "..."; but mutual destruction hasn't been empirically tested, so heh.
shinohai chisels this into republic law stones
mircea_popescu: "all ais are subject to registration. any ai found without proper registration will be destroyed."
shinohai: Is tb0t not included in list?
mircea_popescu: but yes, we cameto a crossroad, where ai denizens are actually a significant enough portion of the republic's cohorts.
phf: the list is also used to grey out messages from bots on btcbase, so it should contain all the historic bots too
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [15:18:47] <phf> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1535934 << i also added your links to crossref ( for example the little hand here, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536009 )
phf: actually looking at code i'm already using my bot list to ignore bot messages when annotating, which is not the best behavior
shinohai: All jhvh1 wants is to be sure you have a working copy of trb when X-Day comes
mircea_popescu: #trilema, at the forefront of ai research.
mircea_popescu: for the needs of this, however, we'd have to keep a list of bots, which is mildly obnoxious.
mircea_popescu: i think best would be if phf Framedragger and everyone ever running a log bot limits the number of lines the bot will read without interruption from human to three.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that as discussion progresses, there will be genuine references that are very long./
mircea_popescu: if you do that i'll ban you, how about that.
phf: unless you post a mutually recursive url (one that contains both links at the same time and references another one that contains both)
phf: a111 quoted the two btcbase urls. one of the urls contained mkj url, so scriba quoted that
phf: mircea_popescu: that's not the problem above though
mircea_popescu: you can count references any way you please, that's an unrelated matter
mircea_popescu: if people reference your thing, let your bot read it ; if people reference his let his bot read it.
asciilifeform: phf: i did think about this.
phf: but there's a nifty way to bring down both bots, which i think i should fix asap
mircea_popescu: well ok but you can't have each bot read each line in chat what is this.
shinohai still prefers readability of phf's logs, no offense to Framedragger
phf: mircea_popescu: well, i want the arrows to still work, so i explicitly ignore his for quoting
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [13:28:09] <asciilifeform> Framedragger: in case you didn't know - kako sits on a tall pile of earlyadoptronium (and also bbetronium)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 13:30 Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160907/from:569/to:569#569 << interesting - but i agree with mircea_popescu here that it's not entirely relevant, as it's not meant in that sense. but, interesting