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asciilifeform: with central control.
asciilifeform: the other thing, your alt may be 'honest', but plenty are not. say, quite soon governments will begin herding people (through guile or force) into national altcoins.
asciilifeform: live by the chumps, die by the chumps. who are fickle.
asciilifeform: but new/exciting.
asciilifeform: whose 'no added value needed' proposition is 'just as good' as yours
asciilifeform: the trouble with chump harvesting, morals aside, is that there is always a new, slicker chump-harvesting artist coming to town.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: good luck with the chump harvesting.
asciilifeform: 'a) repaint your black car. it should be blue. b) why should i ? a) blue is just as good as black b) wtf a) here, i'll sell you some paint b) what's the value to me a) it doesn't need added value, blue is better '
asciilifeform: then your real proposition is 'i ought to be Satoshi and will use the powers for Good'
asciilifeform: if there's added value ('i've an nsa-resistant work-function, here, look') we're all ears.
asciilifeform: it's a legitimate question.
asciilifeform: just asking the question of where the added value is.
asciilifeform: this is more like getting all of the addicts to buy from one large dealer instead of quitting
asciilifeform: 'my ferrari' is one answer. but not an answer that will satisfy skeptics.
asciilifeform: take classic btc. it was a net gain in wealth, rather than simply a machine from moving money from one pocket to another, because it made new things possible. what new things does the altcoin-of-the-day make possible?
asciilifeform: 'if i hadn't picked his pocket, some other fellow would've.'
asciilifeform: would you happily part with gold, for instance, if you believe that 'gold standard' will make a comeback?
asciilifeform: then it is clear which coin the author regards as genuine and having a future.
asciilifeform: if it is being parcelled out in exchange for btc...
asciilifeform: whether a particular alt is 'trying to win over btc' can be determined by looking at what it is being traded for.
asciilifeform: there are many such 'winners'.
asciilifeform: it isn't impossible. we live in a world with ms-winblows, for example.
asciilifeform: hard to sell swamp to people who understand what a swamp is.
asciilifeform: much depends on who these winners are.
asciilifeform: with (optionally) different winners.
asciilifeform: every cryptocoin can be seen as an attempt to 'replay the history of money'
asciilifeform: the difference is: who has it.
asciilifeform: entirely ignoring the 'features' (many vs. few coins, frequents vs. rare blocks, etc) and premining,
asciilifeform: hypothetically.
asciilifeform: 'fail to hang together, and you will hang separately'
asciilifeform: eventually, mining breakthrough, and people will regret having undermined the whole concept of blockchain by having a swarm of little chains
asciilifeform: someone should teach these folks about 'parallel construction.'
asciilifeform: soviet version of the joke: 'man buys a ticket, rips it up and walks - to spite the trolley conductor.'
asciilifeform: nubbins`: in exactly the same way that a junkyard full of bricks, roof tiles, etc. resembles a house.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: mostly - but not entirely - before my time: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568
asciilifeform: in the '90s, i never imagined i'd miss the 'old apple'
asciilifeform: replaced by Next. (with name changed to 'apple')
asciilifeform: apple died in '99.
asciilifeform: well, Next's perverted gcc fork, anyway.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: last i checked, those were just a thin gui skin on top of gdb and gprof.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: $ 20 or so.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unrelated but possibly relevant to you: http://www.notanon.com/zipit/different-linux-distributions-for-the-zipit-z2/2010/05/30/
asciilifeform: the overflow works elsewhere, these folks only looked at the winblows example.
asciilifeform: http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/8177/CVE_2014_0497_a_0_day_vulnerability
asciilifeform: nevyyezdnoy (невыездной) - 'he who is not to leave'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entry/exit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: вьезд / выезд sure
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the magic number?
asciilifeform: afaik never went anywhere.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was some prattle about making folks owing $6+figs of tax 'невыездной'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far, just a bit of dekulakization.
asciilifeform: (at least, soviet 1st grade.)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: one can grok the millionaires protocol with a first grade degree.
asciilifeform: somebody 'in demand' should actually declare, 'wanna talk? low octets of tx amount to addr. A plz.'
asciilifeform: ionlyacceptmailasblockchaindustbytes@nowhereinparticular.com
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: thinking of going?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: only kaffirs get afterlife with gangrene.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plenty of people own fpgas. me, for instance.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'ebay.' a dime a dozen.
asciilifeform: saddam h. reportedly challenged mr. bush to a duel.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: light the meat? why?
asciilifeform: every once in a while, somebody fellates a .22 and lives
asciilifeform: traditionally used at 'point blank' range. no exit wound, bounces around in the head.
asciilifeform: .22, 'olympic' caliber, favourite of executioners around the world
asciilifeform: low pressure round. hence pistols with barrels made of cheap hell-knows-what alloy.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if govt. stats are to be believed, this is true in all 50 states.
asciilifeform: esp. now that 'silk road' is done
asciilifeform: the basic formula for black market cost is 'Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi'
asciilifeform: then you pay 10x, and roll in the cost of lawyers, bribes, etc. if you're found out.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i think you misunderstand. e.g. an AK-47 is 'cheap', if you're a Pashtun. but say you're a Brit.
asciilifeform: in what universe is 'meth' cheap?
asciilifeform: serotonin more or less stops at the blood-brain barrier, so 5-htp just annoys your liver.
asciilifeform: dead drop can tell the friendly forces where to find whatever.
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: four octets ought to be a roomy enough 'dead drop' for anyone
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: recipe, for stowing four octets in the blockchain.
asciilifeform: and http://pastebin.com/Uw9syzhV
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/YQ0b2Lmp
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: i'm feeling generous, have an example:
asciilifeform: because this way 10,000 lamers are all equal candidates for the inquisition, for having said packets on disk
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: assume that every packet you send over the public net gets 'persisted' regardless of whether you asked for it
asciilifeform: the agreement only needs to happen once
asciilifeform: agree on public keys, and encrypt
asciilifeform: because if it isn't, you can stuff bytes in the btc block chain.
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: is cost a constraint?
asciilifeform: http://www.ussrback.com/crypto/rsa/TWINKLE/twinkle.html
asciilifeform: it depends on what the project is. if it's a lamecoin, it could be 10,000 schmucks. if it's a working TWINKLE, your name is shamir and they already know where you live.
asciilifeform: talk in real time?
asciilifeform: e.g. 'nsa' and 'warez'
asciilifeform: just generalities
asciilifeform: no need to be specific
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: what problem would you actually like to solve? that is, what is the portrait of the enemy? and what is to be protected?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: grenade sans pin with the spoon held down by the rug, if you like.
asciilifeform: standardized stego (e.g. 'let's all encode messages in the lowest color bit of lolcat photos) is about as useful as the practice of hiding your house key under the door mat.
asciilifeform: but it is by its very nature non-standardizable.
asciilifeform: steganography is an actual field, anyone for whom traffic analysis is more than an academic puzzle would do well to learn the basics;
asciilifeform: if X is hostile, then anything X knows, the enemy learns immediately.
asciilifeform: anyone who goes, 'i want crypto!' without some idea of the actual problem he is trying to solve, is in an advanced state of sin.
asciilifeform: sepukkucoin.
asciilifeform: slavecoins.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: colleague of mine just moved there. now he's getting 100K/sec.