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mircea_popescu: but with time it becomes uninteresting, and then tedious.
phf: fwiw, we're not talking about mp coming to the burn and fucking shit up
mircea_popescu: that i am one of the few (hopefully i'm not the only one!) who also bestows the gift of cognition in the process does not change the fact.
mircea_popescu: so yes, if need be or fancy strikes, i will break through the delusions of interesting piece of meat.
mircea_popescu: but children and young adults are different populations. i only fuck the latter.
mircea_popescu: and this doesn't suggest anything to you ?
asciilifeform: now i gotta ask, would mircea_popescu bust into 'disneyland' to remind the childrenz that there aren't actually any such thing as friendly gigantic mice ?
thestringpuller: in burn world I am. in this world yea it's not realistic.
mircea_popescu: anyway. an inept, unskilled AND DISOBEDIENT populace. in the quaint words of the virgin mary, "holy shit dude"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: ideally a burn is based on willing participants following a set of principles i.e. decommodification. Traditionally this results in wealth being "non existent". But ideals and actuality are usually different.
mircea_popescu: if were gonna pour water, could as well poured it there as here.
asciilifeform: crab, i suspect, understands that he cannot constructively deal with the cook.
mircea_popescu: ie, they're upset at the lucky crabs, not at the guy putting them all in the pot.
mircea_popescu: funny - they didn't burn THAT.
asciilifeform: as per last year's thread.
mircea_popescu: you don't get to say what the point is once money walks in.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller optionality follows wealth not will. rich people can do whatever they want. poorfags however - poorfag.
thestringpuller: except that isn't _the point_
mircea_popescu: for the same money they could try to become a cat-dragon or w/e. try with all their might, they still don't get to.
thestringpuller: there are plenty of rich people who go to burns with open camps :P
mircea_popescu: i am not against their trying lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eh you can club'em over the head, if can be bothered, but they won't quit trying to not care - why would they.
mircea_popescu: poor people don't get to not care i'm rich.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [18:35:03] <phf> asciilifeform: sort of nobody cares if you're reach, but there's already been tension between people who are roughing it and people who are doing it in comfort.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#770 << this is a luxury. as all other luxuries, strictly reserved for the rich.
asciilifeform: i'd happily eat the rat in the forest, alone.
asciilifeform: fwiw it isn't the 'cooked rat' that puts asciilifeform off the fest, but the '9 people in a bathroom'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform variety is the mother of invention.
mircea_popescu: optionality follows wealth not will. this is a point young dicklets love to eschew, which is why violence is a societal requirement.
asciilifeform: plus i had nfi that mircea_popescu had to move his legs to get the 'cheap local cunt', i thought it gravitated into his event horizon by itself
mircea_popescu: tough titties as well.
asciilifeform: *where folks go to pretend
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, the tension comes from burningman having once been a 'poorfag resort' where folks pretend that mircea_popescu doesn't exist, etc.
mircea_popescu: the fucking entitlement in that land, it's something else by now.
mircea_popescu: sane country'd have rounded up the 70k people, beat the shit out of them, made them re-make audio equipment, tyres etc by hand
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [18:31:52] <thestringpuller> 70k people go to burning man and establish camps. a small few who aren't really burners just, SF-folk who wanna do drugs and "party" would buy rvs and stuff
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#761 << yeah well tell you what, when i go to http://trilema.com/2016/lxs-ninxs/ i ALSO don't go to eat cooked rats and live with nine other people in a bathroom. i go to enjoy the cheap local cunt while preserving my luxurious lifestyle.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [18:07:19] <phf> i think the goal really is to read paino forte from capacitance. at fortississimo keyboard should start injecting random "fuck" and "motherfucker" into stream as you type
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [16:59:58] <asciilifeform> dunno about you BingoBoingo but i'm lookin' forward to the sovgeriatric era of usa
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/the-california-zephyr << CH - The California Zephyr
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in case this wasn't obvious from the comment, the 'lighthouse' scheme is a variant of 'd-c', rather than 'sh', but with some of the advantages of the latter.
ben_vulpes: yeah i mean if you buy that i've got a ticket to this other desert festival to sell ya
thestringpuller: ^- the camp in question was turning the experience into a commodity...
thestringpuller: full thing: "In order to preserve the spirit of gifting, our community seeks to create social environments that are unmediated by commercial sponsorships, transactions, or advertising. We stand ready to protect our culture from such exploitation. We resist the substitution of consumption for participatory experience."
asciilifeform: i thought it was just this artsy festival thing.
phf: asciilifeform: the california weirdo concept from which "burning man" sprung up.
thestringpuller: phf: Decommodification In order to preserve the spirit of gifting, our community seeks to create social environments that are unmediated by commercial sponsorships
asciilifeform: what's that
phf: thestringpuller: burning man is not a TAZ, so i've no idea what you're talking about
asciilifeform: phf: it was a mindfuck a year or two ago reading about burningman's internal usg camp.
thestringpuller: phf: well when you commodify the experience it goes against the spirit of the thing.
phf: asciilifeform: sort of nobody cares if you're reach, but there's already been tension between people who are roughing it and people who are doing it in comfort.
mircea_popescu goes to read comments.
phf: asciilifeform: well, i don't know the details of "white ocean" camp in question, but it usually involved souped up rv's, a staff of paid employees to do your cooking for you, often direct flight from wherever to black rock city airport, etc.
asciilifeform: they could just as easily have their own, neh ?
asciilifeform: for what purpose do the 'closed' folk come to the same fest ?
thestringpuller: is considered extremely rude to the hippie folk who embrace the spirit and principles of burning man
thestringpuller: and then have basically burning man "Hotel style" which fine, but it was a "closed camp" which
thestringpuller: 70k people go to burning man and establish camps. a small few who aren't really burners just, SF-folk who wanna do drugs and "party" would buy rvs and stuff
asciilifeform: phf: what means 'overpriced accommodations' in this context ?
thestringpuller: out of the other 70k people a group of them were probably like "fuck deez guys" went ot their camp and fucked it up
phf: bezzlers come to burn, pay for overpriced accommodations, act like assholes. this year one of those overpriced accommodations places got raided. water tank poured onto audio equipment, electric lines cut, tires punctured, etc.
asciilifeform: care to summarize for folks who have nfi ?
phf: didn't see the raid itself, but yeah much talk was about it on arrival
thestringpuller: phf: Did you see the raid on that camp at burning man? Shit's gotten crazy there. Inhouse fighting.
asciilifeform: it is almost as joyous a thing as the old reed switch keyboards in ru.
asciilifeform: another bonus is that there is no reason this thing would ever fear water, or dust.
asciilifeform: but yes - with this beast, you actually COULD.
asciilifeform: calibrated the sensitivity a little low.
asciilifeform: phf: i inadvertently made this the first time i put it together.
phf: i think the goal really is to read paino forte from capacitance. at fortississimo keyboard should start injecting random "fuck" and "motherfucker" into stream as you type
asciilifeform: ( phf is prolly trolololling but pointing out for readers. )
asciilifeform: there is no place for any kind of switch in that thing.
asciilifeform: lel phf it is easier to make new one.
phf: nah, i'm just going to dremel the thing and replace it with cherry switches
asciilifeform: desolder the old one with copper wick, do NOT simply cut it off !
asciilifeform: the real misery is soldering the ribbon.
asciilifeform: it is a bitch to get together.
asciilifeform: be sure to photograph it before pulling it apart.
asciilifeform: push on the round buttons.
phf: i'm having hard time figuring out how to even raise those legs without repainting
asciilifeform: likewise do NOT try to paint the plastic clips that retain the stabilizer wires on long keys. pop'em out by pushing with a blunt pencil from the bottom side. they will happily sit back in later.
asciilifeform: do not try to paint the legs, or the wells they rotate in. i did, and then had to scrape the paint off with a knife, they did not want to turn. the tolerances are quite surprisingly fine.
asciilifeform: i also recommend to sand and repaint the whole thing, with 'appliance epoxy' (get in any american houshold goods shop)
asciilifeform: (and the legs are on round swivels)
asciilifeform: is the bottom made of iron ?
phf: both are 6110xxx, but i'll know for sure once i start poking at them. in either case they were free
asciilifeform: phf: make sure it is not the 100x more common but identically-shaped 'terminal model-m.'
phf: picked them up from a retrohardware person i know. pretty sure i burned some respect points for being "the retrokeyboard faggot"
phf: like in that russian joke "i got two"
asciilifeform: phf: the hard part is to actually get a hold of a 'model f'. ☟︎
phf: i wanted to fix the unicode search in the process, but i'll punt on that for one. it kind of works, but not surprisingly doing boyer-moore correctly with unicode is ugly and suboptimal.
phf: PeterL: not until i fix the algorithm, that was on my backlog but got overtaken with all the stability issues
PeterL: phf is there a way to make search on logs non-case sensitive?
asciilifeform: ^ this crackpottery brought to you by h. altschuller's 'exacerbate the unwanted phenomenon to solve it' heuristic.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell thestringpuller http://archive.is/6eUmF
asciilifeform: if you buy cornall's pcb, be aware that the usb jack comes off if you so much as fart on iot.
asciilifeform: macrofab will print the pcb.
asciilifeform: phf: won't work. the capacitative sensing needs ~equal paths.