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a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 08:41 mircea_popescu: but bonus points for his unexamined notions that monogamy-beer-and-watching-sports constitutes some sort of universal moral code.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540911 << where were these things mentioned? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 08:19 mircea_popescu: grated, the notion this thing would actually allocate that much, considering what it actually does, is pretty shocking.
asciilifeform: (trb is 100% static, i hope this is not news to anyone)
asciilifeform: at any rate, aside from the 300byte/block index, the rest of the load depends on mempool , and in particular mempool fragging.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [03:12:59] <ben_vulpes> i've been running this one for 9 days straight (previous box would OOM-kill the process every 2 days or so), and it's currently holding 3846M RES
a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 08:14 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#28 < no trb node of mine ever allocated 4gb ram. there's something weird there.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540898 << mircea_popescu never used, afaik, the verstring patch, his heathen traffic is small , as prb ignores his nodes. which is one possible reason behind his sometimes isolation on the path to miners. not all - but many - paths lead through prb heathendom. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 08:11 mircea_popescu: trinque asciilifeform & everyone : without detracting from the more important gossipd spec work, im thinking of making a bot spec. it'd require bots to answer in pm to help, help json and help sexpr. comments/ideas ?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 08:38 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#52 << in which we find that i actually qualify for lafond's dindu status ?!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540909 << mircea_popescu is a wolf in the forest..? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and for the amateur gynecologist class, http://67.media.tumblr.com/e596abe4184992a80292bcb920b39f48/tumblr_nq2t6eDNk91upfzuro1_500.gif
shinohai: mircea_popescu: a bot spec would help clarify things, yes
shinohai: I back bc up to pogo then restart it
shinohai: oh hey ben_vulpes ... re: memory use growth. yes it does at first but seems to stabilize after a restart
ben_vulpes: is there any particular reason why everyone renders block hashes in big-endian format? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but bonus points for his unexamined notions that monogamy-beer-and-watching-sports constitutes some sort of universal moral code. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#52 << in which we find that i actually qualify for lafond's dindu status ?! ☟︎
ben_vulpes: it's not about to oom, so i'll just keep an eye on it personally
mircea_popescu: grated, the notion this thing would actually allocate that much, considering what it actually does, is pretty shocking. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mine's 3874 right this moment
mircea_popescu: (yes it adds ~200 bytes per block due to index, but 1 gb is you know, five million of these.)
mircea_popescu: anyway ; i've never myself seen it cross 4. if anyone has plox to say.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "weird" might be connected to the net at large and hearing all sorts of strange
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [03:12:59] <ben_vulpes> i've been running this one for 9 days straight (previous box would OOM-kill the process every 2 days or so), and it's currently holding 3846M RES
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#28 < no trb node of mine ever allocated 4gb ram. there's something weird there. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque asciilifeform & everyone : without detracting from the more important gossipd spec work, im thinking of making a bot spec. it'd require bots to answer in pm to help, help json and help sexpr. comments/ideas ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski please add entries to the bot page for !% !Q !W !R !A !S !X !1 !2 !3 !4 !5 !q !w !r !a !s !x with the mention "not currently allocated" or such, and a note at the end saying in sum that if one wants to make a bot for #trilema they're to take the next unallocated string for his bot's UNIQUE control code, and display what it does to us in channel.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell thestringpuller you have been slacking on blogging for a whole month
ben_vulpes: i haven't leveled the aws banhammer, so my node's likely collecting all sorts of hilarious crud that yours isn't
asciilifeform: well given as ben_vulpes was likely connecting to my boxes, he is seeing a quite similar mempool landscape to mine.
ben_vulpes: you apparently have more faith in cpp proggy determinism in memory use than i
asciilifeform: btw i proved last year that the in-memory block index ~does~ grow unboundedly, but very slowly.
ben_vulpes: sounds similar to what i'm seeing over here.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: any recollection of how quickly it approaches that upper bound?
mod6: huh, well, that's good to hear tho.
asciilifeform: *how i came to the
a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 03:11 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does your trb node's memory usage grow unboundedly?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540863 << oddly enough, it does not. hovers around 3-4GB. which is i came to the fragging hypothesis. ☝︎
mod6: ben_vulpes: my test node has ~4gb of ram, it usually hangs out around the same, ~3.5G of ram for bitcoin, then after like a month it ooms. then needs to be restarted.
BingoBoingo: phf: Nah, just some shit I chopped together drunk.
phf: BingoBoingo: are you running the openbsd patch?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Restart every few weeks to back up blockchain. Is not trb, but other on Openbsd with trb shit bolted onto sides
ben_vulpes: i've been running this one for 9 days straight (previous box would OOM-kill the process every 2 days or so), and it's currently holding 3846M RES
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, phf, mod6, trinque, shinohai, BingoBoingo, pete_dushenski etc
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does your trb node's memory usage grow unboundedly? ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'For the moment, there’s no primary source for Libtiff on the Web.'
asciilifeform: 'The Libtiff library, which has been a reference implementation of TIFF for many years, has disappeared from the Internet. It was located at remotesensing.org, a domain whose owner apparently was willing to host it without having any close connection to the project. The domain fell into someone else’s hands, and the content changed completely, breaking all links to Libtiff material.'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, trinque, Framedragger, et al ^
asciilifeform: the kind that includes O(1) noise rejection AND repudiatronics.
asciilifeform: sooooo it'd seem like we're pretty close to gossipd schematic
shinohai: o hey that reminds me eulora guide needs updating too
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-11: [14:53:41] <mircea_popescu> hm i thought the wiki got updated.
hanbot: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160911/#226 << i updated it a week ago. possibly there are other guides floating around that still use $ ?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-11: [14:50:25] * Framedragger wonders if it's the trilema-following bot army. will check
hanbot: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160911/#220 << moar like retribution for that "elena" monstrosimovie, an exhilarating tale of beige and waiting.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [23:43:25] <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540771 << dollars to doughnuts that was hans rickheit, my favourite living artist.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#1127 << actually i think it's some chick by the name ingrid mouth
BingoBoingo may need to find that book
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540771 << dollars to doughnuts that was hans rickheit, my favourite living artist. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: That's why I'd put a bet on aspiration pneumonia from inhaling food and beverages
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: At her age aspiration pneumonia is a concern. As a Clintion chemical induced pneumonia can not be dismissed either. Even a fungal Aspergillis infection is possible due to dope smoking.
pete_dushenski: (lame french pun - pneu is tire en francais)
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: she probably has the kind of pneu-monia typical of those with a, ahem, spare tire
mircea_popescu actually took the trouble of specifying asciilifeform 's disorganised-six-comment-idea , lemme know if i fucked it up.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [22:40:57] <phf> pete_dushenski: i'm sure there's a whole bunch of people who'd want to implement url reading, i suspect it's first come first served
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#1058 << i finally grasp what you meant phf ; have a111 read links to btcbase.org ; scriba will read to log.mkj.lt and so on if further ones appear.
shinohai: i still got a few bugs to iron out, so patience is appreciated.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pretty lulzy but some would benefit from a strategic misspelling or two.
asciilifeform: (rather than assbot-style randomola)
mircea_popescu: they are always read by their respective bot
asciilifeform: i was thinking of log links.
mircea_popescu: or not put them in.
mircea_popescu: eh, let people curate their fucking links.
asciilifeform: conversation where you have to click 1,001 times to know wtf was being answered, is not my idea of a good time.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 22:46 mircea_popescu: i suspect we'll have no url readers ; with the exception that all logreaders may read the line in their own www.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540772 << am i the only one who habitually #t's on boxes with no www browser ? ☝︎
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [21:33:04] <asciilifeform> not if i have nfi where to send'em, shinohai
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 22:34 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#943 << if you dunno where to send you should go read the logs instead. ha-ha! nothing to allcomers!
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [22:06:45] <trinque> where does putting hatch chile on my dick before sex fall in the prank to assault continuum?
mircea_popescu: eventually girls figure out it's the chilli. crazy shit.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#993 << i had a very pleasantly mild red hot chilli in a stu last week. cut it in hand, above the pot as it was simmering. thought nothing of it, ate the stu, moved on with life. that night, i took a hot bath, and i drew the conclusion my hand had somehow gone frostbitten indoors.
mircea_popescu: phf i know, i'm just thorn whether quoted should be case sensitive or not. aanyway, minor point.
phf: later ones are picking up the searches themselves
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [21:49:09] <phf> proper unicode search (rather than octet matchin, the way it's doing it now) particularly with case-insensitivity takes like 40% performance hit.. so deferring on it for now
mircea_popescu: internet of things!
mircea_popescu: i suspect we'll have no url readers ; with the exception that all logreaders may read the line in their own www. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: oh the urls. hm.
pete_dushenski: phf: hehe i don't have a bot atm. though by xmas i'll be in better shape to take that on.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [21:37:23] <trinque> I'm not adding a bunch of retarded state to my bot to be polite to phf's et al
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#952 << not to mention this is a bickening discussion. we'll have to SORT these in an order ? god help me, i'm not doing that.
phf: pete_dushenski: don't you have a bot running? maybe a way for you to reclaim that lordship ;)
pete_dushenski: it came to me not in a dream but just as i was falling asleep. i didn't write the 'bot directory' idea down because... same reason einstein didn't carry notebook
phf: pete_dushenski: i'm sure there's a whole bunch of people who'd want to implement url reading, i suspect it's first come first served
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: that it is
pete_dushenski: good to hear. por la republica!
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski ok this is great.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [21:36:00] <trinque> the prefixes were a good idea *because people's fucking bots wont stay up*
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#949 << not just that ; but botmastering threatens to become a rite of passage. i'd much rather go from 1 to 2chars control seq now, when the inconvenience is mostly baseless bitching ; than in 18 months, when i actually run out of single chars and moving is the worst utter nightmare