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mircea_popescu: hey. i guess that finally makes me baby jesus on a stick ?
asciilifeform: it isn't orlov's (or putin's) fault that the west ua folks insist on becoming something out of a comic book
asciilifeform: from the standpoint of americans, it is a beautiful thing if poland, ua, baltics, etc. are stuffed with as many missile bases as physically fit, aimed at moscow
mircea_popescu: hm this is a point.
mircea_popescu: "Unlike competing Polish, Russian, Hungarian or Romanian nationalisms in late imperial Austria, imperial Russia, interwar Poland and Romania, Ukrainian nationalism did not include antisemitism as a core aspect of its program and saw Russians as well as Poles as the chief enemy with Jews playing a secondary role." lmao.
mircea_popescu: and inasmuch as this is the case, which exact label one picks serves as a group identification. if you use the russian propaganda terminology you basically are throwing up a flag and little more.
asciilifeform: (not a russian fiction, but straight from the horse's mouth)
mircea_popescu: supposedly a german land since fredrich.
mircea_popescu: it's like telling me you could have a grandee armee in coventry.
mircea_popescu: no, as i say. it can't be a proper nazi party for as long as it seriously contemplates accepting any ukrainian national in its ranks.
asciilifeform: but, what would be needed for it to qualify as a proper nazi party? merely the brand and logo?
mircea_popescu: for instance, a rejection of ukrainians as lower stock ?
asciilifeform: what would be needed for non-emptiness? a resurrected hitler?
mircea_popescu: what did his granpa start ? a kolhoz ?
asciilifeform: if a zoologist were to speak of a lion, he wouldn't merely say 'panthera'
mircea_popescu: as far as i recall the nazis raped ukraine pretty good, the notion someone there actually is much of a nazi is ridicxulous on its face to begin with.
asciilifeform: idiots of a particular rare variety, which survived in a curious 'nature preserve' for quite some time
mircea_popescu: it's purely a problem of terminology, see ?
mircea_popescu: well sure, but it's still a stretch
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "in refusing to acquiesce to the installation of a neo-fascist regime in Kiev"
mircea_popescu: bloctoc but it has a contract if you click it.
blackwhite: thanks. I was considering getting a proper solution. I will look into conformal. My strength is in design (I can code but I am primarily a designer)
mircea_popescu: but if you're a minimum effort sort of guy even a bitcoind can work, you can directly query it from any software stack. python, php, whatever you run
mircea_popescu: trivial to get the data for it, just run a node.
mircea_popescu: so like a blockchain walker ?
mircea_popescu: blackwhite what is "a site based on bitcoin data" mean ?
bloctoc: futures, still right? I was trying to think of a way to play the 30/1000 odds on this bet, but then got distracted.
ninjashogun: so, the doge financier person's loan fell through. what a waste of several weeks of exchanges with him.
bloctoc: Warren Buffet doesn't want to end up with 1,000 sub $650 Bitcoins. Is there a place to borrow 1000 BTC? Assuming his WOT is legit?
benkay: or whatever the equivalent term for a bitcoin wallet operator is?
benkay: hey, assettes: how would you phrase a bitbet to revolve on Blockchain's solvency?
ozbot: Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
dexX7: http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institution-a-guide/ yes! :D
benkay: today a project manager spinning up a new frontend contractor asked "hey how do we import this vm into vagrant without smashing the frontend dev's existing precise64 image?"
bitcoinpete: i'm off for a bit of sport, then book clubbin' (antifragile, somehow people haven't read it) cheers
bitcoinpete: benkay: what can i say? it was a great quote. and one that i would've vehemently opposed 3 months ago.
bitcoinpete: benkay: ya, they definitely made a fuss and not much else. glyph's whole implementation lacks appeal. "Drop me a line at horse-moon-cloverleaf" doesn't reach catch people
benkay: glyph is classic fartup circus nonsense. apple's taken a firm stance on bitcoin+iOS, and Glyph doesn't have the horsepower to fight them. note: social media noise != canonry.
benkay: i demonstrated this to the team accidentally a few months back, when logging into the web console to see messages we sent each other from our phones.
benkay: bitcoinpete: finally, glyph is a scam. they store your messages in plaintext on their servers.
assbot: I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
Neil: I don't think we'll ever see a 25% (perhaps even 20%) difficulty rise again.
Neil: cazalla: I tend to agree it'll be above 10%, but not a lot above
ThickAsThieves: being a programmer wouldnt be enough anyway
kakobrekla: fuck this life, for one night you dont suck a dick and suddenly you are not a hoe anymore.
gribble: A Reminder – The Most Important Word in Bitcoin, Again because Gox: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/02/25/a-reminder-the-most-important-word-in-bitcoin-again-because-gox/>; Why Fractional Reserve Can't Work in Bitcoin | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/11/11/fractional-reserve-bitcoins/>; Bingo Blog | - of Bitcoin and Boingo: (1 more message)
benkay: you could ask someone to broker a transaction for you
benkay: yeah you buy a shitton of mpoe at 80k
LordPutin: anyone have a squawker box link they listen to for real world financial markets?
bitmia: I'm enjoying myself a lot when I buy or sell for Bitcoin. means I'm dumb?
bitmia: does everyone here agree that bitcoin cannot be a consumer technology? want to get this straight
benkay: how many on the welfare roles own a single troy oz?
benkay: because bitcoin isn't a consumer technology.
benkay: yeah but thestringpuller don't you understand bitmia_'s customers can barely swing a bitcent ;)
bitmia_: if only it took less time than a week
thestringpuller: 20 gigs costs less than a beer
bitmia_: hm, what about a browser extension to include the wot (proxied over to gribble) and the escrow thing?
benkay: electrum's still a thing, right thestringpuller?
benkay: you must have a reading problem.
benkay: a bitcoin wallet under user control would suffice
benkay: but if they have a bitcoin wallet, they can sign a thing.
davout: Mats_cd03: e-mails containing a wallet backup ending in .jar
benkay: if i were building that thing (and i'm not, and we haven't even discussed the market use for such a thing in the wake of the other ebay clones that have failed), i'd make it a hard requirement for sellers to have WoT identities.
benkay: probably a non-starter around here without that.
bitmia: both as a seller and a buyer
bitmia: benkay, and what are the hard necessary things in a marketplace?
benkay: inability or unwillingness to do the hard things necessary to raise personal value above a single dollar.
bitmia: benkay, I was doing a marketplace, remember? how the fuck am I supposed to have individual clients with a lifetime value of 500B?
benkay: is there room in a given business model for serving both?
benkay: this is a matter of personal preference, obviously.
benkay: would we rather a billion pennies from a billion paupers, or individual clients with lifetime value to the firm in excess of 500B each?
chetty: but as a buyer I dont really want my crypto too easy
bitmia: benkay: you'd certainly want that if you were a seller
HeySteve2: only, here is another thing that is rare in a woman
Mats_cd03: blackwhite: what an irritating sense of entitlement. have a nice day
only: nubbins`: writing like she does is a rare thing for a woman
nubbins`: the whole "is pr fake? a woman? mp?" thing is pretty entertaining
only: is she really a girl?
ozbot: The Whet | a place for appetites
thestringpuller: can someone fill a bitcoin bar with tungsten for me?
nubbins`: blackwhite_: if i've frustrated you enough to make you waste your own time rather than someone else's when you next have a question, i've done my job
artifexd: There is a whole section on "Before you ask" though...
blackwhite_: nubbins` i got my answers. See not everyone feels like they need to make a statement every time. Someone you know just like to help and make no fuzz about it.
artifexd: nubbins` Interestingly, that link says that IRC is a good first place to ask.
nubbins`: blackwhite_: here's a link, i'm seriously not being saucy: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
blackwhite_: anyway I got a couple of good leads that I hadn't already heard about.
nubbins`: i could just google "bulk deli meat <my area>" but figured i'd spend 10 minutes wasting the time of a bunch of strangers instead
chetty: well maybe if you had asked, hey guys, what do you think of X as a data soirce ... just sayin
nubbins`: just a downer when people pop in here asking others to do their basic research for them
nubbins`: ...then you're not ready to run a business of any sort
nubbins`: if your first instinct is to pop on irc and ask someone rather than do a simple google search which would have already given you answers...
blackwhite_: i am asking in this channel because there are a lot of knowledgeable people here
nubbins`: "hey guys i'd like to open a sandwich shop, is there any place i can buy deli meats in bulk?" ☟︎
blackwhite_: well because this is a good place to ask
blackwhite_: why is that a problem?
punkman: blackwhite_, retrofitting whatever you are buying is gonna be a hassle
Mats_cd03: or hire a few programmers that know their shit and build your own brand, what do you need a trading website for?
blackwhite_: ok guys I have a question. I am considering buying a trading website and turning it into a site based on bitcoin data instead. Is there any good sources for realtime bitcoin data?
benkay: bitmia: if you're trying to make a crypto-related thing less of a hassle, you're undermining the point of crypto-things.
BingoBoingo: If there was a conjunction is this language that functioned as a one way or such that [(A&B) or B] I would have use it instead