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Framedragger: oh i wasnt referring
to unicode. sorry. scriba just
timed out
Framedragger: can't write
to logs dir anymore, i was
trying
to restrict
things more
trinque: hm check it out; is
that unicode?
trinque: It's currently not possible
to register an account for use with
Tor without connecting at least once over
the Internet. <<
tfa
Framedragger: is it like OFTC where you need an account prior
to doing SASL auth? prolly.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: iirc you can change wp permalinks and pages/posts referred
to by ?id will still work. maybe not for very ancient wp install, would need
to check
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [07:41:28] <mircea_popescu>
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160920/#15 << not so ;
the attitude as well as
the possibility of success are of interest
to
the largest number of people speaking
this language. especially if
they currently don't know
this.
they may "proclaim irrelevant" whatever, but
their green friend is interested in
them.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [07:35:31] <mircea_popescu>
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160920/#6 << nice! but asciilifeform consider fixing your urls,
this ?p=blabla is for
the dogs. and lafond i guess, but really, most yahoo
thing one can do blogging.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: does your wp comments box support basic html
tags (such as href)? (i know it supports
them when posting comments from *within* wp's dashboard)
scriba: Restarting for a small update
to make myself more verbose in case of
trouble / exceptions / etc.
Framedragger: one side-effect from
the above: it may
therefore be
that as one approaches
the gossipd model / state of affairs, cooperation > minmax-style competition
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [21:23:49] <phf> log. so at some point we were in "log according
to btcbase" situation. with
the recent move
to multiple bots and more importantly multiple logs, we now have "log according
to ..." model, which we can still
though attempt
to reconcile. once we move
to gossip
there can't even be a
talk of single log. it's always "log according
to whoever heard and relayed it" by design.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [21:23:49] <phf> asciilifeform: we started with a single canonical log
though, where kako's
testimony was implicitly
the word of
tmsr.
there was some anathem/"A Canticle for Leibowitz" jokes about it,
the log files were deeded, etc. while working on btcbase i realized
that
there can be no canonical log without arbitration, i.e. because of netsplits, lost messages, out of order, clock skews you need a single author
mircea_popescu: however,
the problem with
this
theory is
that in practice changing
the logger is pretty
traumatic.
mircea_popescu: heh. each-reads-his-own was intended as a mechanism
to encourage people
to select
the better package.
Framedragger: now if only bots could signal each other when
they should stop citing each other's corresponding log lines :p but actually, since scriba will be slower
to cite btcbase, it could check if a111 already cited
the line, and if so, cancel retrieval. prolly will do
this later.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: random line cited which includes some html
tags.
scriba: RESTARTING SELF. Reason given: update
to cite btcbase's lines,
too
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you mean join chan before cloak applied? yeah i know :/ will fix later. want
to robustify
things as a matter of priority
Framedragger: making
things more robust, one shitty kiddo-python-line at a
time
scriba: RESTARTING SELF. Reason given: scheduled
test / maintenance
Framedragger: meanwhile have
to do sector research on ICT. some people
think it's a
thing.
Framedragger: (znc is configured
to use utf-8 and
to expect utf-8, before you ask.)
Framedragger: i am not sure if i should spend
time chasing encoding rabbit holes, or start on rewriting
things.
the logging part is otherwise reliable, after all. but i guess znc can be kept as a source of redundancy, and another logger *which knows wtf utf-8 is* does
the primary logging.
framedr_stillghe: i.e. without being
tripped up by nuances of sbcl, which i am sure exist.)
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [07:55:50] <trinque> scriba I'm willing
to bet is some other guy's python
this kid bolted a
thing
to
framedr_stillghe: if i can do
the latter
then
the problem is sorted. except for, you know, still having a viewer without search.
framedr_stillghe: what needs
to happen is, i need
to rewrite
the whole friggin'
thing, and either ditch znc (while using it as backup log history channel, perhaps), or
to understand why znc records some shitty chars.
framedr_stillghe: apparently
though it's not enough for bot
to silently skim
through shitty lines (until it reaches
the quotable
target) -
the whole irc log for
that day is not readable.
framedr_stillghe: regarding bot: so,
the problem is
that on some days, some specific characters are recorded by znc which
trip up
the bot, which expects utf-8.
those chars are not utf-8. not blaming
this on irc,
this should be handled of course
framedr_stillghe: mornin'. so my gpg key is in another place, should have access
this evening, or somesuch. (it's backed up and everything, but simply very inconvenient
to retrieve it right now.)
trinque: scriba I'm willing
to bet is some other guy's python
this kid bolted a
thing
to
mircea_popescu: "The
Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
mircea_popescu: and
the reason coinbase doesn't deserialize for you is
that it contains
that string arbitrarily.
trinque: shame on
the next person who implements any of
this without consulting me first, given I handed you lot a full implementation of
the logging part, and
that I can't remember
the last
time I had
to *touch* deedbot.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes (if you
think about it,
the first block breaks with
the software-as-protocol because eg it doesn't reference a prior block. rather
than bake a
test into code forever, more reasonable
to just make it by hand.)
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [04:25:42] <BingoBoingo>
this latest publication suggests otherwise
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:22:30] <asciilifeform> phf (and any other interested folk) if you have a bit of spare change, buy yourself a 'pcengines api2', either 2 or 4gb model, it's
this comp
that comes with schematics.
then we can play.
mircea_popescu: eh! i guess now Framedragger gets
to make scriba read btcbase for a little bit...
trinque: Framedragger:
thing needs search and sensible nav.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:14:49] <asciilifeform> it is at least
theoretically possible
to resist.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [04:15:39] <asciilifeform> eh BingoBoingo i sat on
this for year+.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [04:15:30] <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform:
The is probably
the biggest Republican news since Phuctor's recent victories.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [04:07:37] <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: dunno if
this is newsworthy, it is only interesting
to VERY small circle of people.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160920/#15 << not so ;
the attitude as well as
the possibility of success are of interest
to
the largest number of people speaking
this language. especially if
they currently don't know
this.
they may "proclaim irrelevant" whatever, but
their green friend is interested in
them.
BingoBoingo:
this latest publication suggests otherwise
jhvh1: 9. Made direct amends
to such people wherever possible, except when
to do so would injure
them or others.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
The is probably
the biggest Republican news since Phuctor's recent victories.
mod6: Yeah, was just clicking on it
to see
the upclose JTAG points, but ya, didn't find
the image.
BingoBoingo: Newsing up
this exciting Republican victory!
shinohai would certainly like
to improve US-Iranian relations with photo subject
shinohai: Yeah I recall a
thread on
this.
shinohai: I see
the ceasefire has collapsed in Syria, meaning Assad saw shadow and
there will be 10 more years of civil war.
shinohai: I didn't archive
the source on
that one because it has stupid javascript or something
that obscued
the article, making it pointless.
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: i haven't seen gribble quit in some
time.
ben_vulpes: yeah actually now
that you mention it, i'm abolishing users altogether.