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ben_vulpes: in other jslolz i learned
today
that hyphens are not legal in js var names because not symbolicated on spaces and infix operators
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 18:13 phf: of course, general purpose computer was always a device
that high cast professional would sit in front in order
to do computations, augmented by external systems or additional special purpose interchangeable boards. at least
that was a pretty shared vision from engelbard
to symbolics before
the microcomputer
a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 18:10 phf:
the person
that i was a [big bank] vendor with is actually doing
that right now. a
trained apl-er and mathematician, having spent few years interacting with [big bank] decision makers now consults on a handshake basis for companies
that need a problem solved, but don't care if it comes with a pretty windows gui
a111: Logged on 2016-03-22 00:44 asciilifeform:
trinque: no incoherence, i can remove
the motherfucking nand ~here~ in
this godforsaken hovel
phf: i still
think
that's
the ideal model of computing, mentat approach
Framedragger: (how else will one
try
things
they always wanted
to
try)
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [16:40:25] <phf> well, i do posgresql for money,
the appeal of
tmsr work is
that i can do whatever
the fuck, and
though
that means sometimes suboptimal results,
there's a lot of merit in
trying odd solutions
phf: (i had
to
tweak a postgresql search lexing phase just few days ago, and fwiw it doesn't givey you "grep" out of
the box. you have
to do
Traditional
Text Search approach
tokenize,lex,index by weights, etc.)
phf: well, i do posgresql for money,
the appeal of
tmsr work is
that i can do whatever
the fuck, and
though
that means sometimes suboptimal results,
there's a lot of merit in
trying odd solutions
PeterL: I am running it now into
the past
PeterL: I wrote a script
to submit links from logs
to archive.is
Framedragger: (i.e. i agree, but
there are ways
to leverage
things. but,
takes
time
to do right)
phf: kind of
tricky
to cache search, since it's very one off. most load on server comes from searching (i mean it's miniscule still, but...), but i looked at analytics and search queries are all over
the place. you have n hits from mentions, which ~might~ be worthwhile
to cache. (like ascii does !#s foo, and
then
there's a dozen of hits from random ips and browsers)
phf: xapian will give you full
text search
Framedragger: how about full
text search?
though i know
that a combo of caching and grep-in-memory-map mode (on an ssd, say) may be viable
phf: i guess search
too, but
that's kind of lateral. you can write a bit of python code using xapian
to do parsing and indexing for you, and i suspect it's going
to be ballpark database speeds. postgresql's builtin search is .. special
phf: db is only worthwhile once you start writing analytics on logs. i've been doing
the read directly from znc logs using regex approach for almost a year (actually scratch
that i was querying kako's logs over web), and only decided
to step it up once i realized i want xref
Framedragger: (things will be moved
to proper db with proper unixtime)
Framedragger: yeah. my contrab now has
TZ=UTC LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 /usr/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1 just
to be sure. unfortunately,
that only happened later.
phf: but since i don't have
to expose it
to wild net, and rate of checks is low, i can just have a bottle file per
task, just doing its own specific massaging
phf: well, for my own znc it has
to do like a bunch of retarded
timezone conversions, but at least i sat down and
thought
them
through
this
time
Framedragger: phf: nice. (nice caching setup,
too).
thanks for explaining - i'll want
to set up some 'backup redundant history source' soon, i
think..
phf:
tz =
timezone('EET')
phf: very defensively, because it needs
to do checks like
phf: i'm only querying for what was mentioned in logs ("annotations"), since i didn't want
the split
to break
the xref facility
phf: Framedragger: i'm basically using kako's log format as a universal exchange <id>;<unix
timestamp>;<nick>;<message>, so
there's a python bottle proxy sitting on a machine,
that, very defensively, can serve a copy of your page in a kako format. it caches all pages
that are not
today, and it has like 10 second cache for
today's queries, but otherwise i'm not mirroring your pages
shinohai has soldering iron, also
trying
to source
trinque: but
the debugger comes in
that kit? or I have
to find
that separately?
trinque: asciilifeform: have a preferred distributor for
the sage?
Framedragger: right. see
trinque, you don't see "lazy" in
that context as having any descriptive context (what shinohai's pots); i do. a simple disagreement regarding
the use. but i of course have
to agree with your general sentiment...
trinque: Framedragger: separate what's being said here from any commentary on
the bot, which is coming along fine.
shinohai: Well it *is* much easier
to produce quality items now
that defacto standards are being written.
trinque: and arguing from
the context of a dead culture buys nothing. "oh
this is what people say"
pete_dushenski: sounds like saying 'i'm lazy' in #trilema is like saying 'i'm a
terrorist' on a plane
trinque: what it means is
this limp dicked "I did a
thing but don't judge me pls"
that produced
the mountain of filth in which we live
shinohai: I used "lazy" in my bickening response, which pretty much meant I was focused more on other boiling pots at
the
time.
Framedragger: and yet sometimes we speak colloquially because we prefer
to!
Framedragger: sure, but by
that metric most of software should be discarded a priori. i agree it's not a good
thing;
this will get fixed when other, important stuff gets fixed.
trinque: this programmer
thing "oh I am lazy lolz".
to hell with it.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-20 15:26 Framedragger: yeah i know. i was
too lazy
BingoBoingo: So
true "Imagine a rutabaga or an apple, a living harbinger of an adult plant like Christ in His manger presaging
the deliverance of all mankind boiled, baked, fried, sauteed, steamed, sun-dried (poor raisins!), microwaved, or roasted
to death. Imagine crunching into a fresh green pepper and listening
to it scream as your molars do
their dirty work. "
shinohai: pete_dushenski: bundle will still be coming
to you soon, just waiting until it is fleshed out a bit
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 15:01 phf: manual
tit
tickling
shinohai: I saw
that
tweet and immediately hear asciilifeform start ranting against C++ in my head.
pete_dushenski: "@TuurDemeester: Why C++ is used on Wall Street is
the same reason why it's used for Bitcoin: precision and performance." << expert
trolling or iyi 'expert' ? you decide.
pete_dushenski: lurching, belching buses. Alongside were rousing posters, designed in
that wonderfully retro socialist realism only
the Cubans still embraced: ¡TODO POR LA REVOLUCIÓN! ¡HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE! ¡PATRIA O MUERTE, VENCEREMOS! Meanwhile, I was walking around Facebook, surrounded by stenciled portraits of Mark and equally exhortatory posters: PROCEED AND BE BOLD! GET IN OVER YOUR HEAD! MAKE AN IMPACT!"
pete_dushenski: in other reconfiguring news, fbook vs. cuba : "In Havana, my cousins were forced
to listen
to rambling speeches about maintaining core values inside a one-dimensional cult of personality. In Menlo Park, I was sitting in a
tent full of people wearing identical uniforms of Facebook swag and doing
the same. Back in Havana, my cousins were eyeing posters of Che and Fidel on crumbling buildings and
the sides of
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [04:15:39] <asciilifeform> eh BingoBoingo i sat on
this for year+.
phf: (note
that
the
two arrows are not part of message)
a111: Logged on 2013-05-02 07:10
truff1es: buttsex has been discussed in here dont worry
trinque: you can see it when you use
the inspector in chrome
trinque: hm... not as ­
though; as actual unicode
trinque: does some brain-damaged blogotron do
that?
trinque: apparently
that article has "soft hyphen"
throughout
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform>
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160920/#37 << if
this is fixable without breaking old urls, or reaching into
the guts of a ~decade-old wp install, i'm all ears << Depending on your wordpress species usually if you set up a person readable url scheme
the default numeric one continues working