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mircea_popescu: used
to
take an expert a week
to make you a new font. now it's outside of
the capabilities of
the us government.
mircea_popescu: phf supposedly
they're going
to have >100k glyphs "soon". and somebody's gonna even make glyphs for all
this fucking nonsense.
mircea_popescu: still linked from, eg, w3.org page. you know
the one, where
they importantly whine about stupid.
phf: yeah,
that's how btcbase looks at it. messages are stored and mostly processed as utf-8 encoded byte-arrays
phf: and for
the record, read in python doesn't ever fail, what fails is elevation from str
to unicode
that implicitly happens in places, like when you do "print" or inside
the html encoder or whatever.
the correct way is
to
treat "str" as a byte sequence, and explicitly do encode/decode when appropriate.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: then again, i dun
think anyone seriously maintained any of
this in a decade+, so who even knows.
mircea_popescu: latin-1 should fail on "nonprintables" or w/e
they're called.
phf: but correct way of handling
this in python, is
to read() line by line, which returns whatever, ascii,
then parse
the [date] <nick> bits as ascii,
then
take
the rest of line and
try: msg.decode('utf-8') except: msg.decode('latin-1')
☟︎ mircea_popescu: used
to be latin-1 with $arbitrary fallback, but
THAT insanity (koi-9 chgannels, etc) blessfully went away.
mircea_popescu: (ftr
this is
the irc protocol, even if many clients don't respect it. latin-1 with utf-8 fallback.)
phf: oh
there's a lot of shit like
that in btcbase,
that's what i was working on while not working on stability issues apparently
phf: the way you deal with
this madness you can see in
the guts of a lot of irc clients: you
try and decode just
that line as utf-8, and if
that fails, you decode it as latin-1.
phf: mircea_popescu's xchat specifically still does
that. so his latin-1 encodable
text comes out as such, otherwise it gets promoted
to utf-8
☟︎ phf: but not necessarily your special encoding. so client will guess
the encoding of
the line you're sending, and if it can be encoded as latin-1 it'll send it as such, otherwise utf-8
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 13:18 Framedragger:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160921/#109 << znc puts shitty non-utf-but-should-be-utf chars in logs, bot
trips over
them and can't ignore
them.
that is also (cc mircea_popescu)
the reason why it keeps saying it's
the same char at same position: even if you just read()
the whole file into buffer, it's gonna fail (at
the same place). obviously
this is unsustainable, i.e. i won't put up with
this.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-21#1546322 <<
this behavior has nothing
to do with znc (unless you explicitly configured znc
to recode your messages), it has
to do with
the fact
that irc is encoding agnostic. used
to be you had koi8-r only channels, or latin-1 only channels etc. now utf-8 is
the "standard" but from back in
those days you have a peculiar hack surviging in a lot of clients. everyone's expected
to be able
to read latin-1,
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: attaches
to people ; sinks
their career. even if
they were "not involved".
they were involved.
mircea_popescu: you recommend never ever using anything made by
the PEOPLE INVOLVED. no matter in what capacity involved. not
the fucking dba "vendor" symbol either.
scriba: vulnerabilities involved
to
the public. Without
this information
the public simply assumed
t scriba: Logged on 2016-09-19: [15:34:12] <asciilifeform> in other lulz, 'In
the last
two weeks many security professionals have praised Apple for reacting lightning fast
to
the PEGASUS
threat
that has been actively exploited in
the wild.
This praise was given because
the parties involved kept samples from independent 3rd party researchers and did not reveal any detailed information about
the kernel
mircea_popescu: a minimum of one month after releasing, you notify
the vendor.
mircea_popescu: pro
tip : giving
the perpetrator of crime early warning is criminal. you notify
the vendor MONTHS AFTER release. not at
the same
time as release. not fucking BEFORE release.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry,
this nonsense does not satisfy my criteria for "full disclosure".
mircea_popescu: >
These vulnerabilities have been disclosed
to
the vendor on or before
the 24th of April 2014.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, back
then
the designs were
terrible but still marginally operable.
mircea_popescu: give
them a fatal dose of ricin or w/e + a scale model of uss cole.
mircea_popescu: anti vietnam war songs. plus a lifesize poster of randy from south park going "oh... we can say one
thing and do another! you can be america's muscle i'll be its caring soul!"
mircea_popescu: mine will just contain centerfolds of old playboys, 1970s, rolling stone magazines,
that sorta
thing.
mircea_popescu: which is
the nature and inner core of elitism. A can do whatever he pleases ; B must do whatever he can. guy slaps butt on street, girl
turns and coos ; other guy sort-of-asks-girl-out-with-apology-included, girl looks at him like she never saw
talking geese before, guy stumbles
to his exit stage left. guy is in heaven other guy is in hell, his life is so unfair etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also where's
that "shannonized mp"
thread
mircea_popescu: it's really in no sense a new anything ; just restatement of
the exact same ancient ideas at
the fundament of
the republic.
mircea_popescu: ie, "there;s no formal approach
to life", also news at 11.
mircea_popescu: in any case i'm not saying "you alf, do not do what you want
to do because stupid people also do it". i'm saying "you stupid guy, going
through
the motion of alf as you perceive
them doth not make you alf."
mircea_popescu: quite.
this is
the important
thing here : hanging out with
the "cool kids" doth not make one a cool kid. it's not infectious, some sort of rubeola,
that "all" can in principle catch, excepting genetic weird.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not
the activity ; it's
the activiter. you can have great rapist, ie gengis ; you can have soddy alley scum, ie lavernty beria. many polish lenses, for every spinoza
there's untold leahs.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 03:40 asciilifeform:
http://www.aerohive.com << 'At Aerohive, we believe
that every Access Point is a starting point.'
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 12:26 mircea_popescu: ou are", forever
trying
to change anything and everything except what'd actually help : his dumb fucking self.
that's "sacred" in "humanism"!
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah i saw
that;
they deleted one
thread and locked
the other, it seems. which is lol.
scriba: Something went wrong while attempting
to read
the log.
Framedragger:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160921/#167 << yeah, and i'm still unsure if it should not do
this. i like it as it provides more context, but it's not.. standardized; it's rather ad-hoc; probably better
to
turn
that off in scriba, and add facility for it
to cite multiline passages via privmsg.
Framedragger:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160921/#109 << znc puts shitty non-utf-but-should-be-utf chars in logs, bot
trips over
them and can't ignore
them.
that is also (cc mircea_popescu)
the reason why it keeps saying it's
the same char at same position: even if you just read()
the whole file into buffer, it's gonna fail (at
the same place). obviously
this is unsustainable, i.e. i won't put up with
this.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 12:26 mircea_popescu: ely neurotic self inspection, of which "transgenderism" of
the alice/leah flavour is very strictly a subset, not
to mention plainer nonsense of
the kind displayed by eg. richard kulisz (see
http://trilema.com/2016/full-loper-os-blogroll-review/#selection-847.0-851.1) or for
that matter "lesswrong". between psychotic and neurotic,
the beta boi is forever floating on
this sea of delusional "you are special and perfect
the way y
a111: Logged on 2016-09-21 12:26 mircea_popescu:
http://fexpr.blogspot.com.ar/2016/01/schools-of-artlanging.html <<
the perisocial behaviours of beta males, rejected as
they are from human society, stubbornly decided as
they are
to NOT address
their actual faults is utterly staggering.
the creation and maintenance of "tulpas" ie imaginary friends, of which "artlangs" is very strictly a subset, much like
toy collecting (warhammer, magic
the gathering, etc) also is ; elaborat
Framedragger: (ahh.
to grind some coffee beans, make self some coffee, and open #trilema irc buffer
to find nice rant by mp at
the end.
the small joys of life!)
mircea_popescu: this
then is also
the fundamental ideological difference between republic ("we'll kill you if you continue in
this manner - and we don't care how many losers just like you have
to die") vs empire ("no child left behind! no matter
the cost
this imposes on
the normal children!").
mircea_popescu: of all
the doomed-culture-collapsing dioramas i personally witnessed,
this is readily
the most amusing.
mircea_popescu: ou are", forever
trying
to change anything and everything except what'd actually help : his dumb fucking self.
that's "sacred" in "humanism"!
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
http://fexpr.blogspot.com.ar/2016/01/schools-of-artlanging.html <<
the perisocial behaviours of beta males, rejected as
they are from human society, stubbornly decided as
they are
to NOT address
their actual faults is utterly staggering.
the creation and maintenance of "tulpas" ie imaginary friends, of which "artlangs" is very strictly a subset, much like
toy collecting (warhammer, magic
the gathering, etc) also is ; elaborat
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-09-19 17:44 ben_vulpes: i doubt it, as everything so far is little-endian, and only by convention reversed by early block explorers
to show
the zeros first or who
the fuck knows i've never found a sensible explanation for reversing block hashes (and only block hashes!)
mircea_popescu: ahahaha. "it
took moses 40 years
to lead
the hebrews
through
the desert
to
the only place in
the middle east
that has no oil"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: wants his
three minutes back!
mircea_popescu: it's some sort of javascript gnarl ; failed
to work on first pass and i'm not debugging it. whatever,
two girls next door doing whatever.
trinque: it's better with
the crying