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mod6: I will do so formally after the Pizarro report is complete. We will be needing to find a replacement for myself as Co-Chair.

mod6: After a lot of consideration this weekend, I'm still interested in stepping down as Foundation Co-Chair.

mod6: I'll be working on the Pizarro report over the next few days. After which time, I'll start looking into creating a keccak version of the TRB tree.

mod6: It seems like the BTC-Dev mailing list is still not working properly. I have posted the September State of Bitcoin Address to my own site in the mean time: http://www.mod6.net/2018/October/1/btcf_address_201809.txt

mircea_popescu: eh, van schman. but yes, sitting down and thinking about it it became obvious enough that it's not all that clear to me neither what problem i'm supposedly solving nor why exactly what i'm doing is a solution. suddenly looked like so much wasted effort.

asciilifeform: ( personally i'd rather not trumpet 'oh he unsheaths key erry morning at 6', it tempts the white van. but mebbe justme)

mircea_popescu: i dunno, seems a great way to go about things, theoretically.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz it was becoming a pain in the ass. always this work/reward paradigm, i tried it out for a while but eventually seemed meh.

asciilifeform: ( on voyage to BingoBoingostan, i left my navigator at home, then alternated between regretting it, and then thinking 'but i can go faster..' )

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 21:22 mircea_popescu: "i didn't really pay for this book" is symmetrical with "amazon stole the item i bought out of my '''shelf'''", provided you use pantsuit definitions of the terms. since when the fuck is random usg asignee getting "paid" for shit some unrelated third party meanwhile deceased did ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856179 << generally i dun buy crippleware unless i a) have or b) plan to bake (e.g. c101pa) a crack. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 20:46 mircea_popescu: can't see the former as anything but "i stupidly gave my data away to some schmuckfarm which now owns me", but then again i don't solobike nor have any interest in navigating-by-map, either i know where i'm going or i'm exploring. but anyways, we don't have to copy each other.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856140 << while i get mircea_popescu's angle of 'linus quisling, was always quisling then' , imho moar complicated, d00d did keep systemdism etc out of the kernel for 20yrs, somehow. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( not esp. surprised that the lone surviver is at&t, the single worst bang-for-bux carrier in usa that i know of )

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 21:23 Mocky: at&t. they gave me the phone and I pay monthly. interest free loan basically

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856181 << lol i was quite certain until today that this practice were extinct ☝︎

asciilifeform: Mocky: there's a commercial variant that's popular where i live, tricycle-motorcycle. all of the hospital bills, none of the vroom, i have nfi what is the appeal..

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 20:08 Mocky: I saw there's a harley store in Montevideo. one in Doha as well

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856134 << this is interesting : i dun think i saw even ONE adult motorcycle in BingoBoingostan, only those starvation-cheap chinese things ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856109 << am i the only one who read this title and thought 'they showed fat chix instead of boxer' ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 18:01 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1851082 << speaking of, i took off the 6am disconnect thing.

Mocky: it does break the comparison. but I still don't see it

Mocky: but i imagine few who go into brothel and get paid by the whores

mircea_popescu: what's next, "i've not really paid wolf for forest" ?

Mocky: at&t. they gave me the phone and I pay monthly. interest free loan basically ☟︎

mircea_popescu: "i didn't really pay for this book" is symmetrical with "amazon stole the item i bought out of my '''shelf'''", provided you use pantsuit definitions of the terms. since when the fuck is random usg asignee getting "paid" for shit some unrelated third party meanwhile deceased did ? ☟︎

Mocky: re unlocking phone, hey if there was a reliable unlock procedure for my phone model I'd take it, but I've failed to find one. 'I don't really own it' is symmetrical with 'I haven't really paid for it'

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 17:54 Mocky: anyway I decided to skip the hostel cuz 100% indian laborer gulag barracks, and went for air bnb room with door lock and kitchen/laundry access

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1856000 << i kinda don't follow the logic here ? i thought unlocking is a take-ownership-of-item-in-possession affair, what's the color of bits to do with anything ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: can't see the former as anything but "i stupidly gave my data away to some schmuckfarm which now owns me", but then again i don't solobike nor have any interest in navigating-by-map, either i know where i'm going or i'm exploring. but anyways, we don't have to copy each other. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i... guess.

Mocky: which i've never been to, only watched on tv

Mocky: also superbike championship will be going on while I'm there https://www.circuitlosail.com/events/2018-world-superbike-championship/

Mocky: that reminds me of a 'bike' i saw in Austin last year

BingoBoingo: I think it is a Chinese import?

mircea_popescu: Mocky i bet you better bike is to be found cheaper 2nd hand there than in the states.

Mocky: I saw there's a harley store in Montevideo. one in Doha as well ☟︎

mircea_popescu: Mocky i somehow doubt you do ; but anyways.

Mocky: well only one week on turist visa, after that need resident permit or something. i may not have the full story

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I am thinking even if I only part with a pair every couple months, that would still be habitacion module power bill paid. Or if they don't sell I'll still have my gringo eyes protected.

BingoBoingo: I'm kinda curious how the local bikes compare over there.

Mocky: course I cant drive in qa, but looking forward to a second summer

BingoBoingo: I am very tempted to price a fuckton of walmart/gas station spec sunglasses and bring them in, sell for 1500 pesos each to foreigners

BingoBoingo: I forgot to bring them when I left the habitacion module on the way to the feria. Didn't feel like turning back to retrieve them. 9 km later nursing a sun induced headache.

mircea_popescu: i have seen waffles baked in the sun!

Mocky: by the time i'm down to nothing but a laptop, generator and waffle maker I'll rule the world

Mocky: I guess I've recently gone through a few years worth of life compaction events, more shaking loose each time

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855891 >> I'm not sure what compact means in this context ☝︎

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855898 >> maybe I'm too eager ☝︎

mircea_popescu: it's a tempting misread, of course, but the fact that i spend the occasional hour interacting with my interfaces with random "social media" site dun do anything to me. it certainly can't be said "oh, mp is on reddit ; robots count".

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 02:42 trinque: pulling bread from shitland, salary or not. so am I

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855888 << i think the important cut is salary-or-theft (ie, are you being raped or being the rapist in the relationship). the mere act of graciously permitting the pantsuited morons to deposit their ~worthless paper bits into your drawers is not in itself anything. children've been doing this since time immemorial, arts-and-crafts'd mom a card for her bday, this doesn't make the woman any mo ☝︎

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I plan to photograph and review it on the blog. I have a suspicion it is constructed in a way that would make it far more popular in its homeland than in this frontier it has adapted to.

BingoBoingo: In other updates I have acquired a copy of the "Código de Comercio" printed in 2000 at the feria. I also spotted an odd syncretic novelty: "Alfajor Oreo"

mircea_popescu: meanwhile i'm sitting here ordering chickies to love me. it's really fucking unfair.

asciilifeform: i thought that one 'fair and square' swindled its phortune out of moneyed chumpers

asciilifeform: i dunno who then best example in the circuses i'm familiar with

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 18:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855879 << for the record, i think it's a uniquely stupid (to the degree of, http://trilema.com/2016/the-life-and-times-of-one-phil-daian-aspiring-nigger-apprentice-cocksucker/ level stupid) to attempt to "mp oneself" off community chests. it is the saddest, most vulnerable derpitude, and it produces http://trilema.com/2010/moartea-ca-o-veste-buna/ 's not mps.

mircea_popescu: contemporary polite way of rendering the concept of "lost", i assume.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855879 << for the record, i think it's a uniquely stupid (to the degree of, http://trilema.com/2016/the-life-and-times-of-one-phil-daian-aspiring-nigger-apprentice-cocksucker/ level stupid) to attempt to "mp oneself" off community chests. it is the saddest, most vulnerable derpitude, and it produces http://trilema.com/2010/moartea-ca-o-veste-buna/ 's not mps. ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 20:34 asciilifeform: ( and e.g. mircea_popescu unsheaths ~erry day, and i dun recall him finding it headache )

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1851082 << speaking of, i took off the 6am disconnect thing. ☝︎☟︎

Mocky: anyway I decided to skip the hostel cuz 100% indian laborer gulag barracks, and went for air bnb room with door lock and kitchen/laundry access ☟︎

Mocky: I don't know, repellent has always been worse for me than any insects. I guess you could call me an insect bite non-responder. Prolly wouldn't use even if I didn't have hard shell luggage

asciilifeform: i still have a dark suspicion that actually changing the logic like this could eventually result in a 'star topology' around a miner

asciilifeform: diana_coman: not particularly urgent experiment, i dun expect we'll do anyffing constructive with the output until after regrinds etc

diana_coman: anyways, I'll get around to patch my node and see what that gets

asciilifeform: ( at pizarro, i mean )

asciilifeform: i've nfi then who it was

diana_coman: I don't see 149.56.19.79 in the list of advertised nodes

asciilifeform: as for others, i dun recall who is 149.56.19.79 but iirc also trb

asciilifeform: (i.e. one where you can make/receive calls, and maybe even read the l0gz)

asciilifeform: aha that's what i was thinking of

asciilifeform: then again possibly i would not today agree that it were good, having since renounced e.g. heapism

asciilifeform: but i dun recall a 'good coad'

diana_coman: really? I thought there was a site you were recommending precisely for "good ada code", wasn't there?

diana_coman: fwiw Mocky I'd suggest unlocking your phone anyway

Mocky: yeah, before I leave

Mocky: I think I'm going to pick up a cheap unlocked phone as mine isn't unlocked

BingoBoingo: Mocky: I got my sim at a mall kiosk. You may find better luck at the airport.

mircea_popescu: in other not-really-news, i had some "old parr" at bar/disco (that had nothing else). that thing is distinctly the sheep bladders whiskey.

jurov: And the IP address mirror is the foundation box where I'm presently migrating the mailinglist.

mircea_popescu: and all the people that put in, a man-hour or a man-decade into his project (i don't mean the fucktards, i mean ~the actual people~) could have done something useful in that hour or decade.

mircea_popescu: linus is the shaman in this picture. i'd have been better off without any linux, than with his sorry ass excuse for an os.

mircea_popescu: i would rather die of the fucking colic, than spend time at the shaman's "office" and then die of the colic anyway.

asciilifeform: not being immortal, i dun deal in 'eventuallies'. fact is that plenty of things for which 'was no linus' still to this day not resolved in any form , and i dun expect to live to see resolved, either masterfully or ineptly

asciilifeform: ( i dun even necessarily disagree, but curious re logic )

asciilifeform: ( i actually have nfi why they havent yet )

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i meant politically, not technologically. yes, technologically they owe us more than they owe their mom & dad.

asciilifeform: ( and no i can't name 1. do ears of corn have names..?)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855820 << the only advantage is that ecology is largely self-minding. i didn't tell the power rangers morons to shoot themselves in the face. i told them not to ; and they did anyway. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i can not possibly think of one single name that satisfies all of a) is relevant to bitcoin ; b) is not in l1 and c) is not so fucking stupid, own feces constitute a good portion of its diet.

mircea_popescu: i see the point of hind-front, though ideally not entirely as a time function.

asciilifeform: and i suppose if other l1 similarly imprisoned but cheaper to ransom than asciilifeform , could potentially make effect

trinque: pulling bread from shitland, salary or not. so am I ☟︎

asciilifeform: i can speak only for self, but at least in my case it is tru

trinque: see what I said about seeding businesses

asciilifeform: ( tho i cannot presently think of any concretes )

a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 02:14 mircea_popescu: i suppose in a sense it's very much a question come to fore, "wtf is foundation actually expected to do". i know for myself it very much is expected to not do anything like hinder keccak adoption, but this seems both a small and a remote point.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855842 << actually imho tbf performed 100% to spec even there. i fully expect tbf to be at the ~hindmost~ of all 'exciting new ideaz' adoptions, not forefront. it's a habsburg art gallery, not avant-garde. ☝︎