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asciilifeform: more or less.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recently i was reading some vintage dan mocsny (circa '91) and spotted szabo in the thread...
asciilifeform: is there really anyone left who doesn't understand that, if you're transmitting plaintext, 'the medium is written' always?
asciilifeform: (http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/01/hanson-moldbug-debate.html)
asciilifeform: ific Bondo, sanded to perfection and painted with meticulous care.'
asciilifeform: 'The basic problem is that the robber-barons of Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office. But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Just scient ☟︎
asciilifeform: mr. mold had a good tidbit on this:
asciilifeform: just about every interesting technology attributed to a mega-organization was done on 'stolen time.'
asciilifeform: same for any idiot organization - see history of 'unix'
asciilifeform: it seems odd, to say the least, to lump together projects done on embezzled government coin, and ones planned/ordered by bureaucrats.
asciilifeform: i'm genuinely curious if any of the 'alt workfunction' folks are going for something other than 'equality!11'
asciilifeform: if you're willing to sign under 'i wish victory to botnet artists but not semiconductor makers', you can work with that.
asciilifeform: there's possible merit to the experiment if you have a specific enemy in mind, who Must Die (tm), rather than some foggy notion of 'equality'
asciilifeform: that is, even a hypothetical permanently 'asic-proof' algo rewards... botnets.
asciilifeform: and the lamers aren't going to like who that turns out to be
asciilifeform: the problem with any such experiment is that, ultimately, 'the race is to the swift.'
asciilifeform: no thanks
asciilifeform: nsacoin.
asciilifeform: so hashers are stuck using external dram - or even disk, if you're sadist
asciilifeform: antephialtic: correct. and, if you're clever, you can have difficulty ramp up to outpace any conceivable growth in vlsi density.
asciilifeform: antephialtic: you can demand an arbitrarily-large 'playing field'
asciilifeform: didn't i post a perfectly usable counter-example?
asciilifeform: if one is to do something, even something foolish, it ought to be done right. cellular automaton proof-of-work.
asciilifeform: i thought every alt was a 'hostile fork' ?
asciilifeform: rms is a special case. he used to be a fairly sociable creature before his motherland was burned to the ground.
asciilifeform: richard stallman...?
asciilifeform: neckbeard == fellow whom age has taught nothing?
asciilifeform: mike_c: i'm here by accident, really.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: that makes 2...
asciilifeform: curious - am i the only one here who never posted to btct ?
asciilifeform: s/nice/intelligent
asciilifeform: here's another crackpot idea. a very 'slow' mailing list, where it costs 1 btc to post. a few days later, you get it back on the sending addr - if you're nice.
asciilifeform: cazalla: exam for write-access
asciilifeform: at one point, i worked on a 'destupidator' (actual working title) - sort of like a 'captcha', but based on the 'raven matrix' iq test.
asciilifeform: this actually reminds me of something fairly foolish that i almost did
asciilifeform: gentlemen, lol! perhaps the log should stay like this
asciilifeform: strangecoin?
asciilifeform: unwritten tradition
asciilifeform: should be good for a small barrel.
asciilifeform: where do these go anyway
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: 1btc for the motherland. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mea culpa.
asciilifeform: https://blockchain.info/tx/b649dbbd792cd03e6a472e53596877a08e41053a6078595ce712c37935445742
asciilifeform: how much
asciilifeform: entire US gross national product would be spent on the land boat. Of course
asciilifeform: had doubled every six months: five more years like the first two, and the
asciilifeform: Congress now began noticing how expensive _Leviathan_ was getting. Costs
asciilifeform: (though thousand-mile flexible pipelines were considered).
asciilifeform: would never be able to stray more than fifty miles from a major water source
asciilifeform: accommodate huge water tanks holding whole lakefuls of water. Even so, it
asciilifeform: found the best to be ordinary water. The _Leviathan_ was now redesigned to
asciilifeform: before moving. After months of experimentation with expensive agents, they
asciilifeform: agent to hold the topsoil in place; _Leviathan_ would spray the stuff out
asciilifeform: solve the topsoil problem. A chemical firm then went to work on a binding
asciilifeform: expensive monitoring equipment to regulate each fan, but this never seemed to
asciilifeform: dust storms and buried small towns in soildrifts. A computer company suggested
asciilifeform: powerful that they blew away the topsoil for miles around the craft, created
asciilifeform: which were to lift the craft were at first too weak, then (redesigned) so
asciilifeform: From the start, there were problems called "teething troubles". The fans
asciilifeform: while the bill was railroaded through.
asciilifeform: who continued to oppose it was sent on a factfinding mission to Antarctica
asciilifeform: _Leviathan_ itself would crush down anything in its path. One junior Senator
asciilifeform: commercial arguments rolled the project over all opposition as one day
asciilifeform: millions of workers. The combined force of industrial, political, military and
asciilifeform: would devastate any land over which it happened to hover. But by now the Armywanted it as badly as any of the dozens of states, thousands of companies and
asciilifeform: were objections that _Leviathan_ would cost too much, would be a sitting duck,
asciilifeform: Both houses of Congress shoved through the necessary legislation. There
asciilifeform: skirt required.
asciilifeform: the rubber company settled for a contract to provide the giant hovercraft
asciilifeform: the alternative suggestions#the entire ship would have to hover. Grumbling,
asciilifeform: hundred yards). Unless a complete rubber factory were taken on board#one of
asciilifeform: turned out to be 135 million, plus spares (a tire change would be needed every
asciilifeform: the interests of a large rubber company. But the number of tires required
asciilifeform: In the first design, _Leviathan_ was to run on wheels, thus promoting
asciilifeform: it would be capable of fast movement around the countryside.
asciilifeform: state of Delaware. It would launch both missiles and planes of all types, and
asciilifeform: would be a monster platform, some fifty miles across and equal in area to the
asciilifeform: The _USS Leviathan_ would not be anything like an ordinary carrier. It
asciilifeform: any subcontractors might fall.
asciilifeform: the largest unions, then the senators and congressmen from every state where
asciilifeform: The major ship-building and steel companies were behind it, as were several of
asciilifeform: enthusiastic (carriers mean planes), so was a large nuclear ship-engine firm.
asciilifeform: then the right project at the right time. Two big aircraft manufacturers were
asciilifeform: The idea of a land ship of that size may seem ridiculous now, but it was
asciilifeform: up costing every man, woman and child in the United States over twenty grand.
asciilifeform: _Leviathan_ was the most successful commercial defense project ever; it ended
asciilifeform: _Leviathan_, America's first (and last) nuclear-powered land aircraft carrier.
asciilifeform: 'It was he who invented
asciilifeform: '
asciilifeform: secretly he was worried, as his diary showed:
asciilifeform: Department of Agriculture now knew much more about binding topsoils. But
asciilifeform: argue eloquently for his monster. He pointed to valuable spin-offs: the
asciilifeform: results, trimming would begin. Doddly went before a Congressional committee to
asciilifeform: the project had too much momentum to cancel, but unless there were visible
asciilifeform: entire US gross national product would be spent on the land boat. Of course
asciilifeform: had doubled every six months: five more years like the first two, and the
asciilifeform: Congress now began noticing how expensive _Leviathan_ was getting. Costs
asciilifeform: (though thousand-mile flexible pipelines were considered).