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adlai: /pm bsm117532 or whatever his nick is today :(
asciilifeform: should this be a thing
adlai: AIUI (and that's capitalized for a reason -- he may disagree with me, as might any other educated reader of his papers and drafts) , there could be a system wherein clients publish blocks at some frequency, wherein some of the blocks are not valid "bitcoin-according-to-satoshi" blocks, but you still get a sense of how likely is the apparance of the next "bitcoin-as-in-satoshi" block
mircea_popescu: why am i reading this shit anyway. /me skips it.
mircea_popescu: adlai i think you deeply misunderstand deedbot.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: text client a la '80s mud ?
asciilifeform: none of this makes sense, adlai
adlai: currently, the confirmation value has a resolution of ~minuties
adlai: well... i'm not certain that bsmblahblah can produce an algorithm which will be softforked by existing btcminers, and never revoked (ie, miners fired) by existing holders; but he's trying to give a more-quantifiable "confirmation" value
mircea_popescu: but ... takes time
mircea_popescu: as well as making a text-only client to obviate the obnoxious gfx thing
adlai suddenly corrects himself -- pete_dushenski was not part of the highlight. whether he was a member of the can-encrypt set, is a matter too deep to reversee in /me's current state ☟︎
asciilifeform: other than himself
asciilifeform: i tend to count from 0 in my head,
adlai: for this reason, btw, i'm quite pissed that ben_vulpes deeds his shit at deedbot's L1
adlai: because i'm a better troll than publicistL
adlai: he's trying to fix the latency issue. i'm not sure it can be fixed, but he's trying. ☟︎
adlai: well, the bsmprimeprimeprimeprimeprime guy has been publishing reasonably intelligent material for a while
asciilifeform: i have nfi re the other whizzards.
adlai knows that he works for 'ledger x'
adlai: (ftr - guy paid me to write it, i didn't, sent back coin, he sent back 1/3 coin for the "research" i did thus far, and wants it completed someday)
adlai really owes some meatwot guy the spamatron, could use an excuse to build it ☟︎
adlai: the eagles saved sam and frodo (in that order -- who even even gave a shit about the ringbearer?)
asciilifeform: wallowing with the eagles, i see
adlai: ... that's a long-to-archive /stream!
adlai: or should i -- save the page again {KLIK} -- http://archive.is/wnKMH
adlai has tasks to accomplish, pls to not disturb -- https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/
asciilifeform: also does the thing really ~need~ gnu, or would mesa on a fast cpu suffice
shinohai: That's an interesting though .....
asciilifeform: you could use trb-rotor almost as-is, if you went to this.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 18:26 mircea_popescu: if anyone is inclined to maintain forks of any linux distro (much in the manner of trb - to clean, not to "support"/utf/systemd/etc) we can prolly work something out.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551840 << here's a thought - mircea_popescu , didja ever consider having the game come on ~bootable dvd~ ?! 1980s this-floppy-is-game-and-its-os style. ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-latest-lolz-from-the-department-of-state/ << Trilema - The latest lolz from the Department of State
mircea_popescu: for a moment there i thought kerry was diagnosed with cancer and is leaving his diamonds to orphans or somesuch
mircea_popescu: "I am Mr. John Forbes Kerry, United States Secretary of State by profession. This is to inform you officially that after our investigations with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and other Security Agencies in the Country for the year ended 2015, we discovered that you have not receive your fund."
mircea_popescu: the wonderment is how much of the crap to preserve on the way there and in which order
trinque: this handily solves the "I linked this motherfucking item in this state" not "well y'know, it used to be over here ..."
trinque: going over it again, it appears to reduce to gossiping vpatches and seals of a format which can reference vpatch hashes.
trinque: the browser and "cache" is replaced by a proper database which stacks these items and creates a www locally. whether items were retained would be a matter of implementation (perhaps some measure of proximity to one's own wot, or the operator having given the item his V-tronic seal)
trinque: atop gossipd I think the *entire* "this website" thing goes, replaced by "I would like the thing identified by hash ..., do my friends have it?"
trinque: it's a second place for namespacing aside the URL, which ~is simply wwwcruft
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah thinking about it i am not sure we actually wish to salvage that particular aspect altogether. do we ?
ben_vulpes: i can get more ips, did not expect this caltrop
mircea_popescu: i have plenty spare ; i guess in my head it's a thing in the vein of the megawatt standard.
trinque: whole thing is broken until gossipd-year-0
mircea_popescu: i confess i never thought about that
mircea_popescu: ie, the ip sharing aspect of dns you mean ?
trinque: how otherwise to abandon using DNS?
asciilifeform: i dun like turning the missile key unless there is good reason.
mircea_popescu: there's better ways to handle passwords than to ask people to alias things
asciilifeform: (the access control mechanism, not the tool, the tool is spiffy)
asciilifeform: imho this is lame
asciilifeform: aha i did same thing
ben_vulpes: if you hit the ip raw that's all you'll get
ben_vulpes: and in other recent lolz, a block just came through with 2 transactions in it including the coinbase
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu asciilifeform BingoBoingo diana_coman hanbot trinque mod6 danielpbarron mike_c asciilifeform davout phf jurov http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/nd2t0/?raw=true
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1552161 << isn't bpay powered by zombie tears already ? ☝︎
pete_dushenski: bbl. !!ratings removed from directory until further notice from trinque.
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pete_dushenski: sorry, nelly got away from me there
trinque: the damn horses, hold them.
ben_vulpes: i'm fair loathe to make more entries in an informal, non-republican dht
trinque: you can kill dns any time
ben_vulpes: it's in the deedbot link on faq
trinque: isn't on there though, gimme sec ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: trinque: didn't see that.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: plz to add ratings to bots.contravex
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 20:49 mircea_popescu: who the fuck meditates.
ben_vulpes: yeah, reading that pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes does not feel like combing through deedbot's sexpr output at this moment
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 20:54 ben_vulpes: shana tova
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1552051 << shan-to-the-ah, tov-to-the-...-also-ah ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 22:22 asciilifeform: the second prong of this, as described in the leaked mit slides last year, is to declare unbelted coin 'terrorist' and simultaneously shitcoin it from use at coinbase, bitpay, etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-03 16:46 mircea_popescu: how is it that the republic can do just fine progressing at the clip of its own progress, no faster than that, nor slower ; and that while we don't specifically wnat to "do things" or set goals, nevertheless we do things and achieve (other people's) goals ?
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551791 << no quarterly forecasts. no 'double-digit growth estimated'. and yet... there's growth aplenty. in spades. ☝︎
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mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161003/#618 << it's diana not dina ; it's coman not corman and its !~ not $$. but otherwise totally lol.
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mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161003/#607 << just in time for "nobody uses banks anymore anyway"
ben_vulpes: if you're in a hurry, jump to 17:45
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol you're joking rite. no city ? anywhere ? try THE ENTIRETY of airstrip one. the whole thing. it's one big trap of 'time from a to b should be =<x or else ticket mailed to house'
ben_vulpes: "fuck i look like? i'm lookin for a bitch that can fuck right, cook right. and if not, then left foot, right, get to steppin, yeah bitch walk like."
asciilifeform: (incidentally, this principle is applicable - fundamental theorem of calculus!111 - to all speed traps - police could simply observe that your license plate appeared on street S1 too soon after it was seen on street S0 ! BUT observe, this is done in no city anywhere.)
asciilifeform: instead, there are 6 police cars working in shifts, with TRADITIONAL radar...
asciilifeform: BUT they do not do this.
asciilifeform: i.e. folks who reach arch N too quickly after reaching arch 1.
asciilifeform: so they could in THEORY bill 100% of the speeders
asciilifeform: (there is no other way to pay the toll, and license plate cameras look for deadheads)
asciilifeform: several years ago, a massive toll road opened where i live. if you go on it from one end to the other, you go through a dozen or so rfid arches.
asciilifeform: so they are given 'sporting chance'
asciilifeform: there is an imho interesting dynamic in speedtraps though, where the enforcement is never permitted to become ideal, or folks will simply drive very slowly and commerce grinds to a halt
asciilifeform: (think, when you can see the beam, the light is not reaching the victim)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: this is exactly 'camera-on-wheels'
asciilifeform: makes for an impressive 'scifi' blaster beam though.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: conversion long before reaching target.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the linked item appears to feature a normal radar thing
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: tire's emissivity implies decent conversion of non-ir wavelengths to heat, is this mistaken?
asciilifeform: at the very least because mircea_popescu will only believe it if somebody other than asciilifeform says 'won't work'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes however must not take my word for this, ought to set up a tube and camera etc.