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a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 13:28 asciilifeform: aaand i'ma skip this morning's 'in trb observatory...' , it's a straight line of 'ACCEPTED' from known trb people

asciilifeform: Mocky: i was speaking of heavy (i.e. fraggable) packets

a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 18:14 asciilifeform: aa i thought that was trinque

asciilifeform: re opiumists, as i understand the procedure was fiddly enuff that it in fact required a second set of hands -- for rich d00d, servant; for poor -- den flunkie

asciilifeform: i recall reading once about an american 'sinologist' type who started by collecting the pipes ( they were often quite ornate, ivory, rhino, exotic woods ) and ended up... reconstructing actual opium den, somewhere

BingoBoingo: I think they did that in San Fran and somewhere near where ben_vulpes is leaving "safe injection site" I believe is the pantsuited newspeak

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm almost surprised, at this point, that they haven't yet reintroduced opium den

BingoBoingo: Now, If Trump makes Maduro sink a USG aircraft carrier the derp squad might try a run at US embassy, but I doubt they would have the commitment they do when serving as hinchas de Peñarol

asciilifeform: i could ask 'why into stadium, and not us embassy' but prolly there is no answer to be had.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The cylinders look like lp tanks from back home. I suspect it is lp, but the locals only ever call it supergas.

asciilifeform: i'm quite reluctant to sink substantial moneys into heathen isps, for obv. reason. in that thread was thinking of 'cash and carry' modest item, strictly for moar-trb.

asciilifeform: ( possibly he even has it nao, i recall seeing a trb noad running from ru not too long ago )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc at one time mircea_popescu actually had a ru box ; but i dun recall him sharing how he bought it, possibly it was a mircea_popescutronic transaction and not repeatable on demand, i have nfi presently

asciilifeform: here is also where i must note that , while i'd like moar / moar-dispersed trb nodez, my time budget for trying to talk sense into remote orcs is quite limited atm

diana_coman: I suppose if not Russia proper, at any rate, Moldova, Ukr, Belarus

diana_coman: having one in the uk is...easy I'd say, but I'm not all that sure it's worth much, lol

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i was not able to discover a 'hard nope', but all of the attempts that answered, ended in this eggog

asciilifeform: diana_coman: pre-pizarro i actually tried a dozen ru isp. they all wanted ru corp.

diana_coman: as for ideas, dunno what/how you ruled out i.e...new zealand?

diana_coman: for all I know he might have it there too? I did not coordinate/ask

asciilifeform: aa i thought that was trinque ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 23:39 asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you have one back in 'old blightey' ? or know of a place there where i oughta put one

BingoBoingo: There have even been times where I rigged www to kill itself

asciilifeform: diana_coman: sadly i dun have just nao the time to re-create packet from list of decimals.. so will have to wait for dump

diana_coman: anyways, I'll let you know if tcpdump sniffs any/ can tell which one it is, but this paste there is the bird in hand atm

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i meant, would like to see hexdump of the packet itself

asciilifeform: so there could be all sortsa strange in various ip stacks, and i would not know of it

asciilifeform: the only commonplace heathen uses i'm aware of , use tiny packets (e.g. dns, iirc, 512)

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect it's a frag, but hard to be certain until one's captured 'alive'

diana_coman: but then who/wtf sends udp on port 7000 ? and meanwhile I left tcpdump sniffing and ...nothing so far

diana_coman: asciilifeform, if it help, here's an example of those packets from the switch - it's from the error log - I can pass you the whole file if it's of any use : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ToYHc/?raw=true

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: item will need some tuning to work as pizarro main switch, presently i only ever used it as a nat ( large-ish lan to 1 external ip ) thing

asciilifeform: if mod6 is overloaded, i can give it a shot myself later this wk, but imho this is suboptimal, asciilifeform does not represent tbf ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( i expect same result as my phuctor propaganda, but imho mircea_popescu is right in that it oughta be tried, repeatedly , before can say 'it all goes to /dev/null' )

asciilifeform: 'i am ogh, son of ugh'

mircea_popescu: (have you noticed, btw, back in the days of free !!ups to allcomers, what large proportion of those? "who are you, x ?" "i am x" "but that's nobody" "nevertheless!")

asciilifeform: ( i.e. why bernstein not replied ? only odin knows )

asciilifeform: pretty sure i pasted some of'em

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for long time i repeatedly 'hi omfg-rsa-xyz-of-the-day people, here's phuctor, i speak for...' etc. 0 result. but possibly was doingitwrong

mircea_popescu: we're europeans, "he did that ? i wonder if i could do it too... check it out i can... guess what, I AM DOING IT FROM NOW ON". and so following.

mircea_popescu: i don't mean, ~once~. i do such things, the once, to instruct and inform. like say that harvard piece.

mircea_popescu: if not, why not "hello x, I am y, i represent tbf, our position is, i can be reached through k j p q in the future" ? ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:51 mod6: I feel like I can be pretty successful in doing that, it's the other things that I feel like I'm lacking -- a senseable direction to a 'Standford'.

diana_coman: I can certainly try and leave a tcpdump going to see what /if it gets anything

asciilifeform: i'd be curious to see the payload

diana_coman: no, but at least gives some idea more than I had on this, lol

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i expect it's pissing broadcast crapola ( dhcp ? BingoBoingo ? ) to the lan

asciilifeform: i'm thinking it's the switch

asciilifeform: i'm pretty curious nao

diana_coman: but yes, I think it's just someone around here playing with the tester?

diana_coman: asciilifeform, I can tell at least some of them, yes, because they got reported as "errors" because not what expected

a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 18:53 asciilifeform: kinda how i boot up that cute x86 systemv and then notice that it is PALPABLY slow on modern pentium because it lacks ANY disk cache etc.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857575 << imho it would be difficult to find a worse example of 'if only could have lived, if not linux!' than beos ( at one point i was quite into archaeology of 'anyffing nonmicroshit', eagerly dug up vintage/'resurrected' pc os, but once actually got close to the things typically found that 'ugh, ~same shit, different bottle' ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: aaand i'ma skip this morning's 'in trb observatory...' , it's a straight line of 'ACCEPTED' from known trb people ☟︎

diana_coman: come to think about it, I can see the case for calling them "messages" since it's not the network level there, indeed

diana_coman: www is up, date is set, everything so far looks fine; I'll give it a more thorough checkup in ~2 hours and get back to you

diana_coman: ahhh, nm, I got confused with the later tell msg

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857574 -> uhm, mainly because I think of network package basically; technically speaking I suppose I should call them..datagrams, uhm ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 23:36 asciilifeform: so presently i end up shelving the idea erry time it makes circle round my conveyor

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo here's a +1 : i return from the beach also! took there, inter alia, girly whom i bought a perfectly see through, 50% of surface holes, inch-over-cunt-if-upright "dress" which i authoritatively declared to be "her bathing suit", last week. and told her she'll have to wear it at the beach. and she fretted over this wearing of this peculiar bathing suit. so today the day came, and she stepped on the beach, and the ne

trinque: i.e. there's this fine gentleman BingoBoingo actually in the bowls of the machine, steadfastly giving a shit.

trinque: I'd lean hard on the "we're humans" thing, communicate that

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857138 << I can also confirm that this was exaaactly what was in my 40gb error log.. oof (btw ty asciilifeform for teh heads-up) ☝︎

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857370 << I can confirm rk is working. ty! ☝︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i think this is all for today in the bilge

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma meatspace for ~20min, should give you enuff time for leg

asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you have one back in 'old blightey' ? or know of a place there where i oughta put one ☟︎

asciilifeform: so presently i end up shelving the idea erry time it makes circle round my conveyor ☟︎

asciilifeform: but it for same reason as stated earlier it wouldn't do so much good if i put a noad in same place

asciilifeform: i've been thinking i oughta conjure up moar trb nodez, but erry time i sit down and look to do it, end up thinking 'why give money to heathen derps'. but on other hand it dun do much good to put 9000 nodes all in pizarro. but to which heathen can give moneys without retching..

BingoBoingo: It's also possible there's another trb node I haven't put my own eyes on running on a residential connection in this country

asciilifeform: ( i have dynamic here also, for some reason local fuckheads want 2x the dough to make static. but it changes 1-2x / year, thus far i live with it )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for all i know he got head amputation.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suppose that's 1 way to 'saint' -- skipping straight to face to face with odin..

asciilifeform: i favour folx who are honest, 'i dun have drivers', over gabriel_laddels

BingoBoingo: It ran openbsd fine, runs a linux fine now, FreeBSD was flakey last time I tried it on this one

asciilifeform: trinque: i dun hate. but gotta point out what it is.

trinque: huh, I ran one of the early x86 Be versions for a bit, didn't hate.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i strongly suspect that a box that smoothly runs the haiku thing will also run freebsd..

asciilifeform: possibly i find novelty 'for sake of novelty' to not be auto-attractive; but imho these folx took the same baccilae that made microshit what it is ( cpp kernel, kernelized gui, 'desktopization' ) and somehow supposed that it'd add up to different result than microshit's..

asciilifeform: i'd stick a kernel that dun crash on these..

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: loox like they lifted various drivers from freebsd, since i last saw

asciilifeform: Fuck Moar Cousins, i guess..

diana_coman: asciilifeform, int8 is indeed meant to be on 8 bits so no idea what that thing there is ; fwiw I added it to my comment on the article with ref to your q here in the logs too because I'm puzzled by it too

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857438 << ok i wasn't sure whether diana_coman's keccak knew how to output arbitrary bitness. but my other point was that a 32bit hash may as well be crc32, there can be no notion of collision resistance when yer output is 32b. ☝︎

asciilifeform: i dun get how 'int8 (equal to 18364757930599072545' worx

mircea_popescu: anyways, i shall now torture girls @ beach. will read all comments and everything tonite.

asciilifeform: 'text, consisting of int32 (keccak hash of top level itemxviii)' << i assume ditto

mircea_popescu: but yes, i am seriousl;y considering this.

asciilifeform: i'd use ordinary crc32 for such item, much cheaper cpuwise

asciilifeform: 'n*(4*int64 + int32) (32 bytes each key followed by a 4 byte ID calculated as the keccak hash of the key itself)' << unless i misread, how does one get a 4byte output from keccak ?

BingoBoingo: s, that was in response to me pointing to that as a precedent for LGBT rights, but I’m not sure that makes it better. I’m just aghast. How can I make him see how wrong he is?"

nicoleci: ahh i see

a111: Logged on 2018-09-28 16:21 asciilifeform: and i'ma never recommend to anyone the use of heathen 'rsa chips'. not even because they all, without exception, work with only 'toy' key lengths, but because srsly wtf.

asciilifeform: i thought pigeon were universal.

asciilifeform: lol i wouldn't have guessed that it'd be ~that~ line..

mircea_popescu: meanwhile @birdcage, "<nicoleci> im getting so frusterated with these logs <mircea_popescu> yssat ? <nicoleci> i understand every 45th line"

ben_vulpes: i was going to ask for a traceroute

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nah, no need, by now i mostly suspect my route was bad.

ben_vulpes: that's odd, i'll look