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fluffypony: benkay: "The protocol was coded to create XCP on any address that sent less than or equal to 1 BTC to 1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr between blocks 278310 and 283810 This was written right into the open-source code. So no individual had to be trusted to accept money then distribute a genesis block like with Next, Mastercoin, Emunie, Ethereum, Levelcoin (ipo scam), Visacoin (ipo scam)"
benkay: a little script that curl otp-url.php | gpg -d | pbcopy on os x is how i do things
cgcardona_: I just recently registered for this room. I had to register my nick w/ nickserv. Then w/ gribble i `register cgcardona_ <gpg ID>`. gribble replies w/ a challenge string which I then signed w/ my gpg key and put on to pastebin. Then to gribble I said `verify <pastebin url>` and my registration was good. Now to assbot I ca n`!up` and it works. Each time to register w/ gribble I `auth cgcardona_ ` to which it replies w/ anoth
benkay: although i guess xcp is a limited time burn thing?
gribble: Error: "bg" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: 'name>' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
ThickAsThieves: someone made a guide i think
benkay: basically paper only has value if there's someone with a gun backing that statement of value.
ThickAsThieves: the push for them comes from a desire to remove centralized exchanges for stocks or property
cgcardona_: i'm wondering how the alt coin scene will change w/ the arrival of mastercoin and/or colored coins and/or sidechains. If I understand correctly these will layer abstractions upon bitcoin which will use a satoshi as a level of abstraction to represent anything (stock option, gold bar, keys to a car, deed to a house, etc). If that's the case then all that value should be driven back into the bitcoin blockchain right?
kakobrekla: asciilifeform i guess we wait until humans manage to grow functional brains on a petri dish, then the argument will be settled.
asciilifeform: how about a herbivorous insect, like cicada
asciilifeform: ever eat a cultured cell?
asciilifeform: 'We shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing, by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium.'
kakobrekla: what sort of a sick joke is this
asciilifeform: strap a 'peltier' to your wrist. body heat. a milliamp or so.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: buy a 'traser' keychain. solar cells. you can get a few microamps.
asciilifeform: and, assuming you are storing only fuel and not oxidizer, you can safely carry it without fear of it releasing all of the energy stored therein within a second
asciilifeform: if you want a portable gizmo that can be 'charged' in seconds, without carrying a bomb, fuel cells on butane (as in cigarette lighter) are probably your ticket.
asciilifeform: which makes it a useful gadget, for powering clocks, etc. rather than what would amount to an unstable explosive.
asciilifeform: if ultracaps did not have large internal resistance, you would not ever want to be near, much less carry, a charged one ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: i was so stoked cuz i bought it with money from winning a juried art show
ThickAsThieves: i had a macbook pro with an ""exploding" battery once
asciilifeform: likewise, go and put 600W for 30 sec. through a phone-sized piece of whatever material you like, then put it in your pocket, get back to us.
asciilifeform: anyone who knows of, say, a MOSFET rated for 600W, that fits in a phone, please wake me up
kakobrekla: anyway these battery 'revolutions' come once a week, for the past, i dunno, 10 years
thestringpuller: maybe you can help. eventually i was hoping to have a script that pulled an insult from the list...
BingoBoingo: ;;rate HeySteve 1 Did a thing with words
benkay: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: google did the same thing with python. spot/coopt an emerging thingy of whatever quality, hire its writers and most active folks, all of a sudden you have access to the best talent in newlang world. speshully the young and easily bamboozled, who get to 'work' 'closely' with the designers of their language.
cedivad: basically by forcing them to disclose the delivery dates in the contract with TSMC you could have a smoking gun to use against them in a fraud proceeding
mircea_popescu: cedivad the reason i say blog is because you seem to have a lot to talk about. bitcointalk, hashfast, etc.
mircea_popescu: you gotta start a blog sometime.
cedivad: the home page is more of a good read http://hashfast.org/Main_Page
mircea_popescu: http://hashfast.org/List_of_Lies << there's a wiki lol
mircea_popescu: at most they run for a year or two
cedivad: and ship it as a MPP in a few months
cedivad: well, i've nothing smart to say, i'm sorry. I've just finished to write a complaint i will send to the public inquiry unit of california, nothing interesting (hashfast sucks)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony a little late for that.
moiety: i think they should host btctalk over in china for a bit
mircea_popescu: "do what a buncha dorks getting in your face tell you to"
fluffypony: and every joke you make she keeps a deadpan face and says "that isn't funny"
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha this is a thing ?
mircea_popescu: now that's a fucking accomplishment, excess flood while muted. guy prolly went all spaz
jurov: yea, and it strives to avoid evil ASICs but as presumably they can't think of one, it will start with a placeholder one
jurov: yet i don't see a good nethod to verify gas expended without redoing whoiole computation
jurov: it has a feel of rogirous math publication, yet it's brimming with unsolved problems
jurov: hm, seems like mircea_popescu recently got a propensity to solutions that break under bad external circumstances
bounce: ``[Erik Naggum] disliked C++, though not as much as he hated Perl, but he generally thought that C++ was too difficult to understand to such a degree that only about 5 people on the planet truly understood it and hence was of little value for humanity.'' (wikipedia) -- how's that for an elitist language, eh. jealous much? *gdr*
moiety: nickserv is having a stroke today
moiety: hope you feel better after a sleep jurov
jurov: it's really not so hard, just become slave to a piece of shitty code that has something to do with mpex
mircea_popescu: cgcardona_ it is a very powerful idea
cgcardona_: This is the first time I've needed to verify my identity w/ a chatroom in that way. seems like a pretty powerful idea.
bitcoinpete: i've definitely been cracking a few eggs around the bitcoin expo in toronto.
moiety: well worth a watch, promise. i feel they are a bit similar withthe trekking and hallucinatory bits
kakobrekla: ill take a look but its got color.
moiety: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479537/ it's a wee bit like Dead Man
kakobrekla: doesnt ring a bell
Mats_cd03: a storm is coming...
asciilifeform: http://static.businessinsider.com/image/534895af6bb3f7f34ffb5390-1200/there-was-also-a-strong-anti-tech-sentiment-throughout-the-protest.jpg
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 just a buncha derpy kids. at least a decade ago
mircea_popescu: it's more expensive, so you actually don't want to run a clean system.
mircea_popescu: the incentive to do it is actually negative. if you run a site as a us business, and they can directly steal your data this way, they will.
asciilifeform: gets a little more interesting:
Mats_cd03: mp: funny enough, ill be living in lowell in a few months with a friend
moiety: apprently " there is no evidence of a successful rib-removal surgery in all of the Western world. "
asciilifeform: (tldr - the pwned didn't give a damn yesterday, and they still don't today)
asciilifeform: nah, a little gizmo that used to be sold at 'science souvenir' shops in the u.s.
asciilifeform: eventually, someone will make a long and flexible version of this toy
asciilifeform: anyone remember the toy where a set of small pins is mounted in a frame - press in hand, and an impression of hand protrudes from the other side of the box ?
mircea_popescu: moiety no, that's for making a woman. different sport.
moiety: just remove a rib
mike_c: if i had one bullet, and I was in a room with gawker, BI, and bitcointalk..
mircea_popescu: founded by the portuguese as EXACTLY a corp town
mircea_popescu: they did to some degree exist in scotland, which WAS a colony of england
mircea_popescu: notrly. it's more of a product of the empty spaces of the colonies, and the peculiar cvasi-catholic sects they followed.
mircea_popescu: be very amused that anyone seriously thinks anyone'd believe they fought a war over that difference.
asciilifeform: i associate buses sans windows with... something else. not sure i'd care to ride in one, given a choice.
mike_c: I just hate BI. such trash. can't decide if they're worse than gawker, but it's a close race to the bottom of the toilet bowl.
mike_c: BI is (as usual) blowing shit out of proportion for headlines. 6 people were pissed they got evicted and made a sign. who cares.
asciilifeform: 'gentrification' is a liberast technical term for the process discussed here a while ago, where slightly better paid wage slaves concentrate in an area and bid up the cost of housing.
mircea_popescu: no but it's like... yo shithead. you make enough to buy me a tie a year and are here protesting ? you're fucked, better hope you enjoy living in a sewer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i imagine the way a large talent stable works is invariant. gotta let people do the stupid shit they wanna do to some degree
asciilifeform: , and could not fathom how to modify its tools without making a whole new language. They never stopped to think about how horribly wasteful this is, they just went on to create yet another language called Dodo, the Titanic, Edsel, Kyoto-agreement..."'
asciilifeform: 'A "new" language that differs from the rest of the crop by one or a couple features is proof positive that both what it came from and what it has become are mutations about to die. There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of such "languages" that people have invented over the yeare, for all sorts of weird purposes where they just could not use whatever language they were already using, could not extend it
[\]: he's a golang dude
mircea_popescu: [\\\] apparently. they were doing some shit about "come have your name on a plaque on this statue we're building"
Azelphur: yea, it was a long time ago
Azelphur: but yea, was just curious, it's such a weird situation, and this getting hacked thing makes no sense
mircea_popescu: dude what the fuck, i just had a coupla shots of brandy
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I would have if I started running a brokerage being in England ;)
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: nah, remember you wanted me to open a brokerage, and I did a lot of code, but didn't release it because of the whole going to jail thing.
Azelphur: back when I was designing your exchange I actually had a conversation with tux about security
kakobrekla: i dunno, it has a lot of qualities i like. its indeed trippy and and well its fuckin hilarious, after about 30min in or so
artifexd: @jy-p> it's a nice little bullshit trick that is used by people who don't get their work done
artifexd: mircea_popescu: I'm starting to understand why you like these guys. Here's a quote that I find particularly compelling:
moiety: kk, not like me to not see a film through tbf
moiety: trainspotting is not a favourite of mine, ican't deny its done well though. I much prefer Shallow Grave
moiety: bounce: it's a Danny Boyle film written by Irvine Welsh http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117951/ hope you don't need subtitles XD
mircea_popescu: "Very difficult. That's very difficult, do you understand? It's difficult because you're selling to a particular group. Fat cats. Big shots. Guys who can afford $200k. And guys who can use a whole fucking suitcase full of cocaine. Basically, Clarence, guys I don't know. And guys you don't know. And more importantly, they don't know you."