asciilifeform: folks who succeed in an intellectually-demanding field - whatever field - besieged by sham artists - tend to develop this condition. or at least, it is certainly a 'professional hazard.'

asciilifeform: (e.g. taleb)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: locklin is one of those folks who never penetrated the btc bozo field

asciilifeform: punkman: or, if you can dig up an ancient mac, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_Practice

asciilifeform: punkman: i like clicking << http://www.letsgolearn.com/bubble.html

asciilifeform: this is generally how 'enthusiastic' lisp-haters are born - they get to study it at uni, and match parens / indent / etc. by hand.

asciilifeform: punkman: if you study, e.g. common lisp, without SLIME, you're inoculating yourself against ever enjoying the language.

asciilifeform: punkman: if x86 or x86-64 - sbcl.

asciilifeform: the only prescription is: barbarians.

asciilifeform: lol yeah

asciilifeform: punkman: and i'm afraid that i cannot in good conscience recommend ide that isn't emacs. because only emacs runs 'SLIME.'

asciilifeform: punkman: what machine do you have ?

asciilifeform: now, if these folks actually risked their arse if the machine fails to perform...

asciilifeform: (always speed-capped by slowest gate, and never arbitrarily)

asciilifeform: an asynch. circuit has interesting properties. for instance, it clocks itself up when you cool it.

asciilifeform: i cannot claim to have invented it (herr muller, 1956?) but might be the only one left taking it seriously.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is known as asynchronous logic. see 'muller's gate.' i vaguely recall that we spoke of it on at least one occasion.

asciilifeform: gets them free press, and keeps the inmates out of trouble

asciilifeform: it's a 'corral' for elderly phds. a kind of 'respectability farm' that many u.s. zaibatsus operate

asciilifeform: 'microsoft research' has nothing to do with the company's product pipeline

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: don't make the classic mistake of reading this as microshit product r&d

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see this ancient thread - http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/not-all-programmers-alike/#comment-3756

asciilifeform: ask the chinese, maybe it helps them get it up, like tiger horns.

asciilifeform: '358375th cockroach found in brooklyn motel. news at 11'

asciilifeform: http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/f868fc6f39a2c45a6c2bab70addc92525d467904

asciilifeform: in other (not quite) news,

asciilifeform: ^ tabloid piece on flying gasenwagen

asciilifeform: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/13/cia_rendition_jet_was_waiting_in_europe_to_snatch_snowden

asciilifeform: who's surprised?

asciilifeform: somebody's gotta be lowered into pederasty. what kind of russian prison can you run without this.

asciilifeform: sucks for the aficionados.

asciilifeform: regardless of who sues/wins

asciilifeform: the thing, as i understand - is dead

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: can presumably contract it out

asciilifeform: ^ interesting

asciilifeform: http://collarme.com/2014/05/an-attempt-to-answer-some-questions/#comment-1764

asciilifeform: if her hands atrophied from grief, sure there's some fellow willing to do it for a %

asciilifeform: fork, wait to be sued, win

asciilifeform: (or i'm thick)

asciilifeform: somehow this doesn't make sense

asciilifeform: why the lament page instead

asciilifeform: if the woman owned the domain - why no fork ?

asciilifeform: as with all such stories, would be interesting to read the 'enemy' side

asciilifeform: (see the 40% figure)

asciilifeform: sure.

asciilifeform: the notion that public knows anything about distribution of hash cycles - is a bit strange.

asciilifeform: chetty: mp is rather like a surgeon - if surgeon could cry, he could not work - somethinglikethat

asciilifeform: until he pissed away the realm

asciilifeform: ^ translation: 'this is comrade stalin. you must know because of whom you still live.'

asciilifeform: http://img11.nnm.me/1/f/7/7/1/38cec3b3fd4898c951e2ee8b9ea_prev.jpg

asciilifeform: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/oadam/33724550/105705/105705_original.gif

asciilifeform: civilized man has to overcome his OD on coke, or reddit, or whatever, to make the jump.

asciilifeform: and the 'civilized man' - not so much.

asciilifeform: the supposed 'savages' get it.

asciilifeform: aye

asciilifeform: (amalrik, 'Will the Soviet Union Survive 1984')

asciilifeform: or dangerous activity.'

asciilifeform: 'Whether because of its historical traditions or for some other reason, the idea of self-government, of equality before the law and of personal freedom--and the responsibility that goes with these--are almost completely incomprehensible to the Russian people...To the majority of the people the very word 'freedom' is synonymous with 'disorder' or the opportunity to indulge with impunity in some kind of antisocial

asciilifeform: to the folks who didn't get dinged, he stood for... order. the empire having its shit together in some form. etc

asciilifeform: phun phact. russian truck drivers had portraits of stalin in their windshields (facing out.) possibly even now. ☟︎

asciilifeform: fail

asciilifeform: ;;google "great chiefs of the iron age"

asciilifeform: 'Great Chiefs of the Iron Age'

asciilifeform: give it another century.

asciilifeform: (didn't work)

asciilifeform: by butchering the staff

asciilifeform: incidentally, stalin's '30s purges are almost universally misinterpreted. he was trying to close down the meatgrinder.

asciilifeform: problem, as seen in soviet example, is that you eventually run out of 'class enemies' and the meat grinder is still standing, well-oiled. then you have korolev doing time

asciilifeform: in fact, this is sorta how the 'prior art' worked.

asciilifeform: let them recommend each other. like the social network derpatrons.

asciilifeform: well, depends on what's a good candidate. does the exhibit need to be pretty to look at ?

asciilifeform can think of plenty of good candidates for zoolag

asciilifeform: we're rather long on christians and short on lions.

asciilifeform: (or at least the spain pictured in 'homage to catalonia')

asciilifeform: spain?

asciilifeform: zoolag.

asciilifeform: 'would you, could you, in the zoo?'

asciilifeform: desaparecido.

asciilifeform: isn't that what is traditionally meant in this context for 'disappear' ?

asciilifeform: uterus odometer?

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i know exactly what mathematical contrievance you have in mind, just not convinced that it applies here

asciilifeform: if he can't do his thing because he's worn a zombie collar from birth and knows his place in the uranium mines, we're at 10.

asciilifeform: i'd say, if mr. newton can't do his thing because the city burns every tuesday, we're at '5000k'

asciilifeform: (or 5000K)

asciilifeform: e.g. we don't know the ideal temperature for a living planet, but we can be pretty sure it isn't 10K

asciilifeform: it's analysable in degenerate cases

asciilifeform: so the question becomes, how vigorously to shake.

asciilifeform: but may very well get stuck in 'local minima'

asciilifeform: the ball bearings will, ideally, end up in the valleys

asciilifeform: you want to find the valleys. so you shake it.

asciilifeform: picture a toy plastic 'landscape' with hills and valleys, and a couple of ball bearings

asciilifeform: more general than this

asciilifeform: ?

asciilifeform: it relates.

asciilifeform: btw, anyone following the discussion who is unfamiliar with 'simulated annealing' method of mathematical wizardry, should open a book and quickly become familiar

asciilifeform still no confucian

asciilifeform: point

asciilifeform: lol