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phf: not
to mention avionics
phf: of course, how else would you do
telemetry
mircea_popescu: sure. none of which run stuff made
this decade anyway.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 19:37 mircea_popescu: i dunno who cares about boot
times, a machine
that's booted isn't intended for serious use anyway
mircea_popescu: that was
the lulz of all
time with systemd coupla years ago,
the "selling point" of "faster boot
times. for servers."
mircea_popescu: i dunno who cares about boot
times, a machine
that's booted isn't intended for serious use anyway
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 17:45 phf:
trinque: i'd like
to at least
try it out. i'm unconvinced clim is a good idea, because
there aren't any good implementations. mcclim is
terribly over-engineered (in
the best of java style, with delegates for proxies etc.), clim codebase
that lispworks/allegro share is less so, but more hacky. which makes me wonder if clim spec itself is suspect
trinque: "I am doing
the smart
thing by using Lisp; what blemishes?"
trinque: couldn't agree more
that religion/ritual cannot drive design choices.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "Naturally
there is *no way*
that
this introduction of
the "baked in" line's introduction could have been coordinated." < <<
ty fxd
trinque: I will rape
the
thing with a huge benchmark and speak of it further at
that
time.
trinque: to restate, and
then I'm bored of
this, getting no perceptable lag whatsoever between firing events
to
the event queue and seeing
the screen redraw.
trinque: my claim btw was *not*
that it's perfect.
phf: asciilifeform: i don't actually know about
that, i gotta
try it myself now :) i
think we might've both
tried it around
the same
time
jurov: would be completely sufficient
to say
the reality - new cars with
turbocharger have second lag from gas pedal
mircea_popescu: phf in my head, if
the algo is correct but
the problem
too hard,
then
the problem is just
too hard ; whereas if
the algo is wrong for
the problem, or badly implemented,
then
there's
that. i suppose you could say "linear sort is dog slow",
though.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, because you have a magic ball and know wtf he's looking at as he says
that ?
mircea_popescu: i dun
think
that's
the common meaning ; but if
that's what you use, fair enuff.
phf: so depending on what sort of algorithms are used (i.e. knowing how mcclim works) a "get a faster machine" might be a valid response
to "mcclim is slow", or it can be invalid, if, say,
there's combinatorial exposition in
the component interaction, or if
there's a polynomial behavior in large
text processing (those are
two usual suspects)
phf: mircea_popescu: dog slow is same as intractable but applied
to system design, solution
that
theoretically works but in practice
takes
too long
to be useful. depending on
the kind of algorithms involved dog slow has different solutions, like if it's a linear algorithm,
then you can solve dog slow with a faster machine, but if it's a polynomial complexity algorithm,
then dog slow might be solved by putting constraints on inputs
mircea_popescu: as far as anyone knows, dog slow kinda means exactly
that "irritatingly slow
to me",
to which "i don't feel any delays" is a valid counter.
mircea_popescu: my call
times out,
thereby let us point out
to phf
that what calling something a
term of art means is
that you have a ready and perfect definition of
the
term in
the respective context. no exceptions.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 18:09 asciilifeform: if proggy's job is
to let me fiddle something in real
time,
there must be 0 palpable delay. you would not put up with a light switch
that
takes random(5,10) seconds
to light, and
to switch off.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-24 22:58 asciilifeform: jurov:
tank is a particular
type of
tractor, let's say. it cultivates sovereignty (or did, in
the age of
the
tank, but why nitpick) rather
than edibles.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Naturally
there is *no way*
that
this introduction of
the "baked in" line's introduction could have been coordinated." <
mircea_popescu: i suspect
this list may not be entirely correct. looks autogenerated.
mircea_popescu: odds are
teh usg wrote its own imaginary emails in an outlook server, if you mean
the recent
thing.
mircea_popescu: the us does not have
the intellectual capacity
to develop new
tools in general, and computing in particular. all
they have is inherited, and everything
they lose is irreplaceable.
mircea_popescu: what
this has
to do with
their failure
to obey
the republic will, of course, never be documented.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
the guy has it,
the us lost air superiority sometime in 2010ish and lost cyber presence cca 2015.
they're on par with serbia
today.
mircea_popescu: "CIA is cyber B-Team, yes? Where is cyber A-Team?" << i lollered. where,
they're gone, locked in alf's basement.
mircea_popescu: trinque wasn't waht i meant. just, your spring sprung
too far s'all
trinque: that one might have
to do
that for both cases in
the future granted.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I can't develop on
that imagined computer any more
than Eulora wrote its own OS.
mircea_popescu: should have prolly run uci on
them rather. but of course no uci yet.
BingoBoingo kept
telling self *this* is last US election qntricle before results, but emergent lulz flow from artesian laff fountain
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 17:56
trinque: I do not make decisions in life about what
to do
today based on somebody else's imagined
tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: they're not speaking english. like you know, most females
that a) ever get fucked and b) someone'd ever contemplate fucking
trinque spends
too much
time
trying
to read lips
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 17:45 asciilifeform: '... just over a week before
the presidential election,
top Democrats are demanding
that he level
the playing field and disclose what
the FBI knows about Republican nominee Donald
Trump’s possible
ties
to
the Russian government.'
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 17:43 asciilifeform: '“I would highly doubt
that
they’re armed,” he said, “that poses a greater
threat. Normally, standard operating procedure for
the Secret Service is
to never have armed security around our protectee—ever. Even working closely with sworn law enforcement officers around
the protectee is a very delicate situation.”' << lel, no word on whether clitler and
the monkey disarmed mr
t's guards, but... we'll PRETEND!
they did. appar
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 17:39
trinque: "What's
the matter Mr.
Trump? We already provided you bodyguards!"
phf: trinque: it's a cyberpunk-ish
theme hack from back when you could customize os x's look and feel