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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> acquisition anything <
than anything <<
ty fxdx2
mod6: Many
technical challenges lie ahead, but with
the help of
the Lords of
tmsr~ and
the community at large, we'll be successful.
mod6: Anyway, overall, I'm super excited for
the future of
TRB.
mod6: you've
thrown some good punches while
trolling lately. i've lul'd.
shinohai: I'm so
tired of seeing it when I
troll for articles I'm
thinking of writing a script
that blocks it from my browser
mod6: I'm sure
there will be some further re-alignment of
tasks in coming weeks, etc.
mod6: Getting a way from bdb will be a huge long
term scalability effort. And we've had some very interesting ideas suggested for replacement. So I
think
that'll be a whole part of
the Ideal Bitcoin probably. Right now,
tickets 6, 7, and 8 are on a disconnected graph, but could be easily joined
to
the greater "Ideal" effort.
shinohai thinks it is nice
to finally read a Bitcoin development conversation
that doesn't include
the
term `Segwit`
mod6: helping you (among many other end users), have a better/easier
time with
the wallet is a huge win.
mod6: *nod* it's on
the short list for sure.
mod6: It'll be a challenge, but good for all in
the end.
mod6: In all reality, now
that we've gotten
through
the immediate build issues, now
the real hard work begins.
mod6: Another long
term goal is
to possibly get some more unit
tests written for
trb. Might not even need
to be something in
the perm source base, but something as an overlay
to give us confidence when we make critical changes down
the road.
mod6: I would really like
to get some of
the low-hanging fruit
taken care of in
the wallet
though.
mod6: So right now,
the import/dump priv key is being reviewed/reground/updated/tested. Next, I'd say we
take a hard look at maybe
the rawtx one, or maybe even some of
the log cleanup ones?
There were a whole bunch submitted by polar_beard.
mod6: I suspect
the long
term plan will come into better focus as we start
to dig into some of
these short
term ones
though.
mod6: Well, short
term, I
think
the current goal is
to get
through some of
these vpatch submissions as we said we would. Hopefully get
through a bunch by year end. (Jan 8th) However,
the longer
term goal is
to work on Ideal bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: what's
the longer
term plan, gonna
try and
tackle wallets ? dbs ? stick
to general cleaning bit by bit ?
mod6: Perhaps you can see if
there was an error. I didn't get a bounce message, yet. Will let you know if I see anything on my end.
jhvh1: mod6:
The operation succeeded.
mod6: !~later
tell jurov I
tried
to send
the State of Bitcoin Address email
to
the ML, which deeded just fine right now, but nothing seems
to have shown up in
the ML archives yet.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu:
The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !~later
tell gabriel_laddel
this
thing is long, ima read it later
today.
jhvh1: phf:
The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:48 gabriel_laddel:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560716 < it may be
that CLIM itself sucks -- but
the implementation is 100% common lisp and is easy enough
to mechanically alter if you have problems with it. Should
tmsr~ decide
to strip whatever features from CLIM and alter
the spec, at least we have a codebase and spec
to argue about and something working
to us
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:40 phf: gabriel_laddel: i wasn't
thinking of selling your product, but i wouldn't mind
trying
to do
the deployment on a own hardware
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560997 <<
this is exactly how it goes, on one end of
that : everyone has his own boxes / his own process for acquiring boxes. you can't buy
them boxes and mail
them over, not really, and if you could it'd be a specialized job and wouldn't work like
this. and
this isn't even
the only angle, people are also variously allergic
to divers proteins involved etc.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:32 gabriel_laddel:
trinque: I'm just selling
them by hand at
the moment in
the bay area (going
to google for a scheme meetup
to hawk product here in ~.5 hrs)
mircea_popescu: i never had any patience
to begin with ; consequently - i can't ever lose it.
ben_vulpes: "computronium: not
to be handled by children or idiots!"
mircea_popescu: ie very patient
tech support for people who have no business
touching
tech in
the first place.
shinohai: Someone has
to
teach Republican Kindergarten
mircea_popescu: shinohai you know where
there's
the src and everyone sane can ftjam it into a working binary within 20 minutes except you still get o spend your life
telling people
things ?
mircea_popescu: i
think it's a very bad idea
to misrepresent
this (here) as "selling
the box" because it'll cause you nothing but frictive grief.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:34 gabriel_laddel: I've been charging $200 on
top of
the price of hardware, but as of
today (and an extended navigator
that indexes all symbols and
their
types) - 300
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:30 gabriel_laddel:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560469 < would you mind reviewing arsttep? I'm shipping it with each machine as part of
the manual and would like for others
to be able
to understand it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "CenturyLink Acquiring "Level 3" As Internet
Transit Routes Consolidates" << consolidate ?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 20:01 asciilifeform: (recently i was handling some vaguely ubuntu-derived abortion and clicked 'no
thx' and was
treated
to it loading ANYWAY)
BingoBoingo: A Republican Operating System Kernel+Userland should not be referred
to by such hippy dippy
terms like "Distro". It is a "Destro", a
tool like a reciprocating saw, rotary hammer, or blasting cap.
BingoBoingo: *Destro << ben_vulpes stahp using
their vocabulary.
trinque: fwiw ben_vulpes already had a cl-V in
the works
gabriel_laddel: Noted. When I get a chance I will look into V.
This means _after_
the world replication works. Which, for whatever reason, produces a linux kernel
that kernel panics on startup.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 21:48 gabriel_laddel:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560716 < it may be
that CLIM itself sucks -- but
the implementation is 100% common lisp and is easy enough
to mechanically alter if you have problems with it. Should
tmsr~ decide
to strip whatever features from CLIM and alter
the spec, at least we have a codebase and spec
to argue about and something working
to us
trinque: you observed certain cultural hazards inherent in
the way shithub works
trinque: the same was contemplated for
trb; it doesn't rule out use of V
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 18:14
trinque: I'm irritated he didn't genesis v-patch
the
thing
trinque: and even without fancy shit like
that, I don't notice a damn
thing lagging
trinque: re alf's realtime rant, I can't see how
that's not possible, perhaps by interrupting an ongoing redisplay with a condition?
trinque: I am on
the latest from
the pre-fork maintainers
gabriel_laddel: have you seen
the *new* *improved* defsystem layout yet?
trinque: points
to
the alert reader who understands why
this
took so long
to notice
trinque: found
this out a few days ago
trinque: it
turned out
that I was using some ancient mcclim from a copy of
their old CVS on a particular dev machine
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 17:45 phf:
trinque: i'd like
to at least
try it out. i'm unconvinced clim is a good idea, because
there aren't any good implementations. mcclim is
terribly over-engineered (in
the best of java style, with delegates for proxies etc.), clim codebase
that lispworks/allegro share is less so, but more hacky. which makes me wonder if clim spec itself is suspect
gabriel_laddel:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560716 < it may be
that CLIM itself sucks -- but
the implementation is 100% common lisp and is easy enough
to mechanically alter if you have problems with it. Should
tmsr~ decide
to strip whatever features from CLIM and alter
the spec, at least we have a codebase and spec
to argue about and something working
to us
☝︎☟︎☟︎ gabriel_laddel: Since
then all he has done is play around with fonts
to
try and make
them "cross platform" or something.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 02:49 asciilifeform: and over what did gabriel_laddel and
this d00d quibble over, what was it, < 1k usd ?!
trinque: not like I don't want
the source, but you understand my meaning
trinque: death
to "patches welcome"
trinque: and
the "free" can be an excuse
to not produce a complete
tool
trinque: most here are not hurting for money and pay for actual
tools
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 02:50 asciilifeform: where is
the mega-profit he boasted of having from his worx ??
trinque: I can't help but see braindead open-sores-ism in
that.
gabriel_laddel: phf: you can do whatever. It will be free for in-wot people and I encourage you all
to
turn it into money.
phf: gabriel_laddel: i wasn't
thinking of selling your product, but i wouldn't mind
trying
to do
the deployment on a own hardware
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: The inspector needs
to have Isearch across all inspected objects,
the graph walking facility needs
to be integrated into
the GUI..
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I'm working on completing
the whole CLIM environment, but am not
there yet. Still have
to
tie all
the new logic for reflective search for generic functions specialized on arbitrary
types, lambda lists of length, and return values of
type
to
the navigator.
trinque: and more
than you said
there
trinque: would pay for
this *if done*
gabriel_laddel: translates js
to parenscript and parenscript
to js, integrated with
the conkeror web browser (has same keybindings as emacs)
gabriel_laddel: trinque: as for what is included: McCLIM integrated with: macsyma, femlisp, MJRCALC, a manual, nope.js and more-or-less broken prototypes of everything else on
the splash screen screenshot.
gabriel_laddel: I've been charging $200 on
top of
the price of hardware, but as of
today (and an extended navigator
that indexes all symbols and
their
types) - 300
☟︎ trinque: idgaf about free compared
to say *mcclim got finished*
trinque: that "free" can run counter
to
the "life is less shit"
gabriel_laddel: When my life is less shit I'll be setting up a method by which in-WOT people can get it for free. You all, of course, will be able
to sell
the same product I am.
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: trinque: I'm just selling
them by hand at
the moment in
the bay area (going
to google for a scheme meetup
to hawk product here in ~.5 hrs)
☟︎ trinque: where are
they going
to be sold, what's included, how much?
phf: oh i guess you pulled all
the masamune material on account of selling it? i remember
there was a bunch of dedicated content,
that's no longer
there (arsstep being one of
them)
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 04:04 mircea_popescu: anyway,
the linked github is like
the first laddel piece over a few dozen words
that nevertheless made sense from end
to end.
gabriel_laddel: phf: I have. It is called masamune, and you buy a discrete box from me
that comes with everything on it.
ben_vulpes: didja bring
trinque a vpatch, gabriel_laddel ?