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bounce: s/back it up/&, show he has such a team/ etc. bit forgetful with the details today
bounce: guy posing as "CEO" claiming to have lots of minions needs a good team. since claim made, up to him to back it up. that's not quite the same as requiring to know his every move or his every thought.
mircea_popescu: because someone somewhere in a bureaucracy figured it's a good idea to fucking industrialise research.
mircea_popescu: "Now academics learn to take a paper or a class of papers, imitate the style, the organization; copy the phraseology, discuss the historical literature and find some wrinkle on the problem that makes it look like a contribution. This is what tends to be published, and this is what seems to be "original". And these works never survive the author."
bounce: disagree. it'd mean that the only good person be a totally non-anonymous person, so, real personhood is only open to, say, obama. or dubya.
davout: bounce: the way i understand the argument is that ownership is akin to the state of an electron, until you observe it exists in a superposition of states, it can only have a state when you observe it
mircea_popescu: conversely, good cogicity, just like good personhood, relies on not being a sphere. at all.
mircea_popescu: good anonimity, just like good sphericity, relies on not being a cog. at all.
mircea_popescu: let's try a different tack. you know what a cog is. you also know what a sphere is.
mircea_popescu: how are these ends of a stick ? there's no continuum
bounce: you still end up with two ends of a stick. "person", "not a person"
bounce: we're measuring the quality. when is someone a person? whether the scale is actually countable is immaterial.
mircea_popescu: yardstick is a matter of measuring, and thus relegated to quantitative discussions. we're discussing qualitative matters here.
bounce: anyway that doesn't help much, since "distinguishing from the others" implies a yardstick, that in turn is a choice bound by context
davout: what you're saying is pretty much that derps exist in a quantum superposition of owning, and not-owning stuff, and that their actual ownership resolves when i actually observe, aka measure them
bounce: there's this conflation of "person" to mean "someone who matters (to me)", which is highly viewpoint-dependent. your basic definition appears to be "someone who matters in the bitcoin sphere and can be trusted not to fsck up (too badly)". might need a suitable word for that.
davout: i don't think that my ability to distinguish derps is really related to their ability to own stuff, it is not necessary for me to be able to know they are able to destroy a bitcoin for them to actually be able to destroy a bitcoin
mircea_popescu: "A 43-year-old programmer who helped set in motion a class-action lawsuit against the companies and became one of its five class representatives will not be present in the San Jose courtroom. He was shot and killed by the police last December."
bounce: yeah, no. with davout on this one, "anonymity" is lack of a label, not necessarily lack of an underlying identity. on the flip side, you already know what jehova's witnesses will try and tell you without you needing their name, regardless of whether they offer their name. if they do, they're no longer anonymous. it doesn't affect your esteem for what they're trying to tell you.
davout: mircea_popescu: derps might be fungible as anonymous entities, entities we couldn't care to name, it doesn't really impede their ability to each own a bitcent
mircea_popescu: stupid enough to not realise he can't have a "my" as nobody, clueless enough to fail to distinguish a verb from a possessive. this is reddit.
mircea_popescu: it's not even a thing. it's gas.
mircea_popescu: like, joe schmuck on reddit. is not a person.
mircea_popescu: people have a lot of difficulty groking that if you're anonymous... there is no property.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: besides, who's sober enough to scan a QR code?
fluffypony: "No ugly smartphone unlocking, app starting, camera pointing at a fancy QR code. No, all handsfree, how it needs to work."
mircea_popescu: here's a funny story : bar where we watered saturday night, had an advertising above the urinal. on that advertising, aqr code.
mircea_popescu: "Margo I have lived in the theatre as a Trappist monk lives in his faith"
mircea_popescu: Members across three generations: P.L. Chebyshev, A.A. Markov, A.M. Lyapunov, S.N. Bernshtein (ie. Bernstein), E.E. Slutskii, N.V. Smirnov, L.N. Bol'shev, V.I. Romanovskii, A.N. Kolmogorov,Yu.V. Linnik, and the new generation: V Petrov, S.V. Nagaev, A.V. Nagaev, A. Shyrayev, etc.
mircea_popescu: I would like to record here (so people get off my back) that I do not belong to the so-called "Austrian School" of economics, in spite of a few similar positions on bailouts and bottom-up systems. I believe in mathematical statements. But if I were to belong to a school of thought designated by a nationality, the {NATIONALITY} SCHOOL of {DISCIPLINE} it would be the Russian school of probability.
Shakespeare: no cuz its a scam
Shakespeare: like a silent dove but not
fluffypony: like a bat?
Shakespeare: dude a pigeon just flew by me
mircea_popescu: so you know, i go there like a fucking ride of valkiries screaming all the way from like outside, WHO DUN IT!
mircea_popescu: she calls me in a total panic, cause well... he's gone ?! and she suspects the idiot receptionist kicked him out maybne ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c threw me for a fucking loop. cause afaik he was leaving tomorrow, right ? so i had secretary call hotel front desk to sert up lunch, cause i figured... we can do lunch
davout: i really hate being in a rush
jurov: lmao my cabbie (when i got lost a bit on arrival) refused to accept 10 euro bill
mircea_popescu: guy definitely enjoys a lot of stuff huh.
Shakespeare: ASCII gave your cabbie a bunch $20 bills this morning. I couldn't tell which of them enjoyed it more
davout: mircea_popescu: imma explain it all to her a bit later
Shakespeare: it has a retarded ticker too
bounce: curiously, a load of stolen garlic got recovered (border agents smelled something), and the value reported sounded like they used wholesale prices, not "supermarket prices".
fluffypony: "A raid of his home in the wealthy neighborhood of Mexico City produced what police described as "the largest single drug cash seizure the world has ever seen." Almost $207 million sat in the house in cash. Seven high-powered firearms were also in the house, the New York Times reported."
bounce: https://imgur.com/a/DYU2e says it's 22bn
bounce: lbs? what are you, a merkin?
bounce: what was that picture again, of some narco guy's mansion with on the order of 18bn in usd and assorted further currencies in various places, down to simply stacked in a room. one'd think that's enough to buy an underground bunker to store the stuff.
mircea_popescu: lol i wonder if there exists a secret underground ScamCon
mircea_popescu: btw, i kinda have a bet with mpoe-pr as to who shows up here first, asciilifeform or thickasthieves.
mircea_popescu: it's supposed to be a soft joke
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, she was wearing a corset so it kinda looked to me like a playboy bunny of yore
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mircea_popescu: ;;google "with a vicious streak a mile wide"
turbo_ac100: The manticore still is a lion though.
fluffypony: "Sure, but a new CEO would suffice to reestablish trust."
turbo_ac100: trying again (i know right now I'm not authed). There is a flood message I'm gonna reproduce now
mircea_popescu: you may be having a client issue because you got kicked by chanserv.
fluffypony: kanzure: try ghosting yourself as a test :-P
fluffypony: well not kick them off, I think it forces a nick change to GuestXXXXX
bounce: why don't you ask him? op on -otc. could be someone nicksquatted you and he was a little too enthousiastic
cgcardona_: that gives me a -6 total. that sucks
cgcardona_: who is Anduck ? they gave me a -10 on the wot. wot a dick
cgcardona_: I think that (with regards to the W3C) bitcoin's biggest lacking fundimental is that it's not a W3C tech.
cgcardona_: MP - yea I'm *never* surprised when the leader of a working group predicts something will 'take years'
mircea_popescu: he who does not puts ze puzzle together is known as... a putz.
bounce: curious tidbit: there's a reason it's the mother, not the father, that conveys jewishness to the kid. figuring out why should be just a bit of thought.
bounce: better than islam, where getting in is relatively easy (just learn a book by rote and loud repetition), getting out... carries the death penalty. (literally)
fluffypony: if you decided to follow the belief but you weren't born of the 12 tribes you weren't a jew
mircea_popescu: FabianB it's a play on how would a feminine jerusalem sound like
fluffypony: well jews in ancient israel were bound by a common belief, but it was also by birth
bounce: isn't it their creation story that groups them in various tribes, about 12 or so? though to call that a "race" is maybe a bit overly ambitious.
bounce: I think the "jews make up a race according to western languages" premise mostly means the writer is still stuck in wwII-era propaganda.
mircea_popescu: FabianB gotta admit it has a ring to it neh ?
benkay: generalizing concepts. sounds like someone heard about 'general solutions' from someone else with a lil bit o programmery experience and decided it was important to do for their ideas as well.
fluffypony: "Bitcoin itself can be viewed as an early form of DAC. We are generalizing the concept for use in the open source community, building on Bitcoin's proven technology. Bitcoin could be reimplemented as a full open standards-compliant DAC. Perhaps someday it will."
fluffypony: "This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o check what has a wikipedia article!
mircea_popescu: "Having spent more than two decades, as an option trader and book-runner (~ 650,000 trades), I have always been leery of inexperienced academics talking about "prediction markets" when we have organic, spontaneously formed markets, and have had them since civilization started --my reaction is that of an old plane engineer and pilot being lectured by a high school English student who never flew a plane. You can't tell t
mircea_popescu: "Likewise, today when a Westerner tells a Lebanese Shiite that he has a separate "ethnicity", he is baffled. Mazhab is not ethnicity, no more than being a democrat in the US would be a different race (although it should be)."
exchange01: its a small exchanger, we are thinking about making an IPO on havelocks
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo why is this byrne kid so fixated on the entire personal attack angle ? he told thickashtieves the same thing, yet how the heck would his being clueless a personal attack on me. wtf, i'm not his mother.
fluffypony: exchange01: I have a BIRC from the University of the Internet-pre-1995
fluffypony: that's it in a nutshell
mircea_popescu: "Holy shit! What kind of toy random number generator is GPG using? Never mind that the message is printed twice. Never mind that both messages flick by before I have half a chance to read them, let alone do anything to entropize my system. “Wiggle the mouse for moar entropies.” I wouldn’t trust a program that prints messages like this to protect my middle school slambook."
mircea_popescu: "reop is clearly influenced by signify (What can I say? I like my own designs.), but it’s not a clone." done reading there.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: wrt making Sybil attacks harder, isn't there/couldn't there be a GPG-like system that uses a common private key for a single owner, but also hash some sort of easily identifiable GUID as part of the pubkey/signature to indicate which machine it is on? that way an attacker's work becomes slightly more complex, as they need to not only create profiles but have a fresh VM/install/whatever for them ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and also pankkake http://bitcoinism.blogspot.ro/2013/12/lex-cryptographia.html b-a material ?
mircea_popescu: "Marketers have created a profile for young urban millennial males with money to burn, but it's hard to believe this creature exists"
mircea_popescu: whoa done with three days' logs! a hero is me.
mircea_popescu: who was asking about china's political influence a few days ago ? here it is :
mircea_popescu: o which reminds me! if any of the esteemed VIPs can repeat either of my two little latin fables, there's a prize!
mircea_popescu: jurov: Apocalyptic: imagine world directors talking about important topics whole days wrapped in clouds of smoke << this is shockingly true, i think we smoked a small dog's weight of tobacco
mircea_popescu: jurov: mircea will certainly come soon, maybe after a lil fuck << my fucks are not little.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: Put that ink in your printer and make a super sekrit paper wallet. << plain white wallpaper with floral designs that morphs into japanese girls and octopuses once you shine a black light in the dark.
bounce: "journalists not so speshul". funny how that needs a court to tell them journos.
mircea_popescu: do that for a year, audience builts, then she can prolly start her own eyeliner line
mircea_popescu: cgcardona_: just told that to my wife (she's vegetarian), now she's walking around doing her Plants vs. Zombies impersonation << this woman sounds like she needs a daily vlog.
mircea_popescu: "Out of nowhere like a UFO website beegcoin edited by BEEG CORPORATION LIMITED, registered in London and created by young French to be, I think, a huge slap to the ego -centric bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: "You asked a serious article ? A real investigation ? Here I am here I am!"