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BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> people still use okcupid now that tindr exists? << mp doesn't have a guide to beating tindr
mircea_popescu: "i want it to just fit"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: willingness to depart from routine is orthogonal to virility.
thestringpuller: people still use okcupid now that tindr exists?
mircea_popescu: the difference between the placid capon and the overactive to mask impotence capon is not substantial.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how is that not castrated ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562239 << people love the hope! hence okcupid. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced that it is about castration - the 'actiony' types are just as fixated, they would sincerely rather make a crappy aluminum musket that eventually kills himself and whoever stands next, than a perfectly serviceable rocket.
mircea_popescu: "and what have you learned in the city, billy bob ?" "oh ma, i have learned how to fail before i even try!"
asciilifeform: and that a handmade rocket is more accurate, makes bigger and cheaper hole, than trying out medieval musketry.
asciilifeform: orcs tend to be practical folk. witness, e.g., palestine, even there - they understand rocket.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:45 asciilifeform is of the - admittedly armchair - notion that 'backyard artillerists' oughta focus on rockets, lower pressure, better... 'bang for buck'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562200 << i dunno there's any dispute re this, here. or outside. ☝︎
asciilifeform: (did somebody walk away with the domain..?)
asciilifeform: i have never even ~seen~ this spinner prior.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562351 << thing is under epic ddos or wat. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hasn't changed hands yet, but arguably the iraqis are edging into actual city.
asciilifeform: changed hands for 1st time since then ??
mircea_popescu: aaand teh turks are getting restless.
asciilifeform: wrights - had no plastic. they had wood, and wood flexes well, but glue does not.
mircea_popescu: the problem is material quality. they'd cost ~1mn, which is not what people wanna pay for cessna. they wanna pay 100k, and they do.
asciilifeform: incidentally, wright airplane steered by bending wings, this is another item that could be reintroduced in small flying machines that keep popping up in threads here, 'because we now have computer', but afaik has not been.
mircea_popescu: when i first got laid i had nobody there to show me how it's done so i made do as best i could.
asciilifeform: because there is such a thing as practical craft.
mircea_popescu: if they're there.
asciilifeform: as for airplanes, i recently read, for instance, an entertaining piece, 'stick and rudder', classic, by one w. langewiesche. but if you wanted to fly in an airplane, i would still recommend going with davout at the wheel, or mthreat, rather than asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: this is not to say that nothing is ever usefully automated. just that we aren't at the 'wish and it happens!!11' level for, e.g., organiking.
mircea_popescu: at some point oil was carried by barrel. then by trainload. then piped.
mircea_popescu: that it doesn't happen all the time, or within a short enough interval doesn't change the fact that it's the one mode of industry.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose i missed all those steam pressure gauges in cars etc.
asciilifeform: in practice, none of this happened, it only happened in the imagination of folks who only see the results on paper.
asciilifeform: just like, incidentally, the notion that cnc magicked away machining skill.
mircea_popescu: the way it works is, two chunks of hardware that have to be interfaced are briefly interfaced by biofilm, until a proper solution is put in place.
asciilifeform: this is precisely the kind of notion which gets people into chemical mess.
asciilifeform: magnetic stirrer does not magic away the hand skill.
mircea_popescu: you don't handboil anymore ; there's magnetic stirrers specifically because of this skill being expensive. etc.
mircea_popescu: all of these are temp skills.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how to properly separate layers, for instance. how to boil without 'bumping'. various things that sound braindamagedly simple but many folks fuck up somehow.
hanbot: well in the same manner as'd be a museum of vinyl siding, sure.
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-02: [15:46:51] <mircea_popescu> the cuban wiki entry is fucking hysterical. lengthy discussion of the shitty jobs the dork did in college. how come none of these go "and then he took rhetorics with elena dragos and was the only one to get a b in any of her classes that decade"
hanbot: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161102/#279 << incredible collection of idiot euphemisms on that page. "provides vertically integrated production", srsly?! also, attempted to make some preserves of it with archive.is, which is broken/dead/? atm, so here's another bitchlog on that ongoing fire....
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform name one such basic. "don't suck through your nose from reagent bottle" ?
thestringpuller: i'd rather attempt at raising my own shitty veal rather than continuing to eat mystery meat until end of lie
a111: Logged on 2014-05-29 17:55 asciilifeform: i really can't fathom the purpose of buying a mystery meat hardware rng. if you're willing to eat mystery meat, why not use the vlsi turd found in current cpu?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: not conclusion, more "direction toward edible turd" vs "eat the mystery meat" re: << http://btcbase.org/log/2014-05-29#694660 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i was thinking more of the basics that folks learn 'with spinal cord' in training.
mircea_popescu: note that the place where good training would have helped (concorde crashed into hotel ; smolensk lulz ; etc), the training though present didn't do anything, and nobody thought it proper to blame anyone for this.
mircea_popescu: there is a thin sliver of stuff your training is useful for ; but most accidents, including with planes, including with controlled flight into terrain, come from not having read the book.
mircea_popescu: would you want someone working on trb on the basis of having read the book or on the basis of having watched "the videos" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trainers don't simply hand 'patient' a book..
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:25 asciilifeform: PeterL: would you fly as passenger in a mig that i offer you a ride in after reading 'how to mig' b0000k by, say, mthreat ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562186 << yes, actually. guy is a competent (if self-taught) engine engineer. in between him and the various trainers he had, he's the sane mind i've seen. ☝︎
thestringpuller: looking through my research there doesn't seem to be a conclusion to hardware RNG thread
mircea_popescu: i mean "the miniaturization is important in itself", ie, even if obviously won't work to move large bodies, it's integral to the magical cavity.
mircea_popescu: yeah. just, you know, the miniaturization itself is important.
asciilifeform: hence the monster machines with liquid he etc.
mircea_popescu: guess there's also that.
mircea_popescu: seeing how even thz timers aren't expensive.
mircea_popescu: you can technically use 7 or so to get 500
PeterL: it could work with a flow cell, which would be cool for monitoring a process, but the low resolution would make it very bad for identification work
asciilifeform: PeterL: then what led you to believe that it works ?
PeterL: didn't get to put my hands inside
asciilifeform: PeterL: didja pop the cover on it? what does one need to make it ?
mircea_popescu: not by them polling their inside state at 5kHz
PeterL: at my previous employer there was an equipment showcase, bunch of vendors showing off new stuff, one guy brought a shoebox sized nmr, blew my mind a bit
mircea_popescu: human civilisation was built by very intelligent, special, sensitive doods DOING WHAT THEY WERE MOTHERFUCKING TOLD
mircea_popescu: they'll only do what they can cluck about.
mircea_popescu: this entire "elective" driver for human activity is the pits.
asciilifeform: which theoretically lets you make the entire orchestra, gun, barrel, bullet, from soft aluminum.
asciilifeform: re '3d gun' folk, it boggles my mind that they ignore 'gyrojet'
asciilifeform: (in the somewhat cryptic words of ilkka k.)
asciilifeform: first we do the rape, then - the ape.
mircea_popescu: and we'll be all "oh, good thing you did the rape thing first then mkay. THAT was the emergency"
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be the "surprising nobody could have predicted what will those zany scientist kids think of next" of our old age.
asciilifeform: with the right hands it is 50 months, or 50 days away.
mircea_popescu: but this technology is 50 years away, idiots are too busy making "3d guns" out of the practical equivalent of a large plastic coathanger injector and other stencils.
mircea_popescu: hence your laser suggestion in thread.
mircea_popescu: in ~principle~ all chemistry as practiced now could be changed to phys-chem through the process of, put substance inside magical cavity, shoot the right beams at the right atoms.
mircea_popescu: if you're gonna do that better off doing resonant cavity em
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 19:31 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562159 << he was born in soviet russia. there isn't a purpose, just, electricity is all he's got besides "the power of the soviets", and while neither can fill a hand before pissing in it would, nevertheless at least electricity DOES SOMETHING.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562259 << betcha that one could budge the otherwise astronomically-unfavourable equilibria with modulated arc, or something else unavailable to ancestors. ☝︎
asciilifeform: '“We don’t spy on anyone. We don’t work with any government to spy on others and we never would,” Dominic Carr, General Manager of Public Affairs at Microsoft, said.' << gold
mircea_popescu: (in some ind processes, the "was there a spark" is mn dollar question post disaster)
mircea_popescu: yes but most organics are not "thermodynamically plausible" to use your terminology, making it misguiding. put caveat "if it's not organic, or interesting (ie explosives)"
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 19:29 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562147 << it is, or at least was, the explanation of "how life begun". nevertheless, this method fails amply for organic compounds : fill a tube with a all the organic compounds you can think dilute in the same solvent, run electrictity through it, congrats you have some lightly chlorinated toilet water.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562257 << did i not put in caveat, 'if there is any thermodynamically-plausible path to the end product' ! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:24 asciilifeform: and the feedstock problem is not escapable in postindustrial world. e.g., one can make nitric acid from, say, copper sulfate, saltpetre, and water. but where in the forest do i dig up copper sulfate ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562183 << afaik copper sulphate is one of the naturally occuring presentations. it comesa as mix of carbonate, phosphate and some oxides. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:23 asciilifeform: how the fuck do you write down ~hand skills~
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562181 << same way you teach white chicks to twerk and black chicks to handjob. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:21 PeterL: so we need a sort of "frozen" archive of "how to make X, which you need to make Y", sort of like how trb has frozen deps
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562175 << this is not even half a bad idea. bonus : works natively on v lol. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: fucking savagery. and it probably started "for your own good", as these things always go.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:19 asciilifeform: PeterL: you would be surprised at what commonplace thing can be abolished by great inca. i was astonished, after moving to usa, that you cannot buy potassium permanganate in drug store here.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562173 << i wanted to show girls the thing (it's fucking pretty, innit ?) these idiots don't even know what it IS. i mean, pharmacists. they go to medical school here. NO FUCKING IDEA! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:14 PeterL: what would be the purpose of this?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562159 << he was born in soviet russia. there isn't a purpose, just, electricity is all he's got besides "the power of the soviets", and while neither can fill a hand before pissing in it would, nevertheless at least electricity DOES SOMETHING. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:11 asciilifeform: it is not an ~economical~ way to make (almost) anything.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562147 << it is, or at least was, the explanation of "how life begun". nevertheless, this method fails amply for organic compounds : fill a tube with a all the organic compounds you can think dilute in the same solvent, run electrictity through it, congrats you have some lightly chlorinated toilet water. ☝︎☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: http://news.softpedia.com/news/russian-president-vladimir-putin-wants-microsoft-out-of-the-country-509902.shtml << hey alf, pootie tang heard you.