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phf: but no in this case israeli is the reason why i was there (for a burek) but the dodgy is everything else about the place. it might as well be starbucks, except they don't have those fancy starbucks machines so the "baristas" can fuck up however they want and they do
phf: oh i see, some movie Brooklyn stereotype, in my experience though israelis run a tight ship
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: rereading, i can see that. i guess it was just ambiguous on first reading. my bad.
pete_dushenski: when i think 'israeli owned dodgy coffee shop' i think of a place with open baklava on the front deli counter, flies buzzing, dirty white linoleum floors, dusty ceiling fans, etc
mircea_popescu: it's just among teh named participants.
pete_dushenski: phf: that could be sbux
phf: pete_dushenski: things that i find dodgy are the kind of things that attract womeninbusiness obviously
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski well they're the only ones with a voice in there.
BingoBoingo: lol trinque http://qntra.net/2016/11/hillary-brod-out-with-epstein-on-sex-island-six-times/#comment-77508
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 02:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-03#1562665 << yeah thinking about it i'm gonna do a democratic thing here. so the recognized participants being diana_coman hanbot and BingoBoingo - agree amonst yourselves to select a winner and let me know who it is.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562842 << looks like only the three writers/contestents are interested in voting huh. democracy inaction! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 14:34 phf: there's a dodgy israeli coffee shop in the neighborhood (they make shakshuka and burek though, which are good, when the israeli guy is running the kitchen), which is a favorite meeting spot for local "career" women. i just spent about an hour half listening to a conversation, and for the love of me i can't figure out what it's about. "yeah should reach out to such and such i was on his board" "yeah such and such is now at such and such
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562882 << one wonders, if coffee shop is so dodgy (ie. only men are comfortable there), what are womeninbusiness doing there ? ☝︎
pete_dushenski: shinohai: moslems too
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562902 << couldn't have timed it better. ☝︎
pete_dushenski reads. finds that it is so. battered and fried pig guts! oooeee!
pete_dushenski: shinohai: is this also 'afroamerican cuisine' ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 18:28 mircea_popescu: the mechanism at issue is this god forsaken bit of americana tardism where recognition = knowledge.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562985 << this ties into the earlier thread about nra membership leading to 'buy gold!' spamola in the post box. just having identified that the stock markets and fiat money markets are rigged or that the gendarmerie are on schedule is considered salvation, and this is cemented with the purchase of talisman xyz against evil spirits of clitlerokracy. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1563019 << that'd be cool. it's been ages since we've had that function. ☝︎
phf: the typo was unintentional
phf suspects hackgod.me has a significantly higher snr than google.com
mircea_popescu: google.com?hackdog.me should go to google com notwithstanding it belongs to hackdog.me by the standard because IT HAS GOOGLE COM IN IT!!1 and hackdog.me doesn't understand how the world works! and anyone who still remembers the standard is just putin's bitch! and hurr durr!
mircea_popescu: how this nonsense is supposed to pass muster is anyone's guess. america dun need to be made great again because according to wikipedia it still is!
mircea_popescu: this is more of the same bullshit "oh you asked a question, OF COURSE you wanted an answer from wikipedia, because in our arbitrary private listing "wikipedia" is what answers questions because we say so, and therefore here's a "search engine" which is a machine of returning the "most relevant" results for your query according to our handmade list of what should be relevant and therefore is."
phf: modern browser will helpfully render that url as "google" for you, so as not to confuse with such complexities as domain hierarchy, protocols, paths, queries, etc. so once they went down that path of madness incorrect parsing becomes a "YOU COULD BE TRICKED" situation, because you could, thank you google
mircea_popescu: they're patching the error of lynx doing the right thing in 2016 as it did in 1996 ; except meanwhile everyone else went fucking clueless.
mircea_popescu: trinque that is true, which is why it should go to hackdog.me. the last dot gives the top level domain, ie me. the thing before that, is the local domain, ie hackdog. the thing before that is in error and thus discarded.
asciilifeform: also yer browser takes every www page it loads, synthesizes into peptide, and injects straight into the nearest vein on yer neck. so going to WRONG!1111 www is a Bad THing.
phf: YOU COULD BE TRICKED!!!
trinque: question mark isn't a valid hostname character, only [a-zA-Z0-9][a-zA-Z0-9-_]* iirc, or thereabouts
mircea_popescu: the fact that "Your browser" fucks up url parsing isn't an argument.
mircea_popescu: that is correct behaviour. http://google.com?hackdog.me should go to hackdog.me
mircea_popescu: l, it's there, and it's a thing. it's also a way of life - apparently, for an entire people by now.
mircea_popescu: the indignity of adult female caught in nonsensical academic expectations on a college campus, trying to "keep up", at least as far as appearances go, through social engineering her way through the teachers, cold reading them like the last lounge lizzard and at all times trying to scent the prevailing opinion in the wind like some sort of illiterate but desperate fox is not apparent to any who've not fucked them as such. stil
mircea_popescu: and therefore to them, "the cathedral" and "quantum computing".
mircea_popescu: to them it's a case of "what do most of the teachers seem to consensus" because then that's "of course" known.
mircea_popescu: a whole whorde of "educated" kids with an interest in "science" and "technology" do not. it's not merely that they do not know what we know ; it's that they do not know HOW we know. to them knowledge isn't this multi-dimensional accounting system which sums to null on all edges.
asciilifeform: aaat least i'd be quite surprised if it turned up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider the case of "quantum computer", picked randomly from a set of these. you, or i, or others here possess the math and physics needed to evaluate that thing. and so we know, as a factual matter, it dun exist.
BingoBoingo: trinque: You worldview may be tinted by Texas colored glasses. Dindus, MENA refugees, and white heroin are rapibly eroding the suburbs elsewhere.
trinque: however, this environmental change doesn't look too hospitable to a clinton. we'll find out.
asciilifeform: trinque: nowhere is there a guarantee of the environmental change pushing in the direction you would like, and on a timescale you can live to see.
trinque: the environment changed; this always matters, and it's the only thing that matters
trinque: where's the (loop do (and-anyway)) thread
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> chinese soy will be grown in american ex-parks etc. regardless of which party wins election << ALready happening in Missouri. Called "Right to farm" implemented through... ballot measure of all things.
trinque: and if I were a fledgling Republic, all the more
trinque: if I were either Russia or China I would be very happy about this
BingoBoingo rather certain that Russian observers in cook and st clair counties in Illinois would be sufficient to turn state "red"
trinque: USG just went from supahpowah to pedowitch infested shitland in a few decades
trinque made no mention of the public
asciilifeform: because, as mircea_popescu correctly described in recent thread re 'wikileaks', 'public opinion' sums to 0.
trinque: when else could terabytes of evidence be dumped upon a "Clintons"
trinque: crypto exists, bitcoin exists, leaking is a thing, ...
asciilifeform: yes - the 'tammany hall' that's run usa for decades ~could~ evaporate overnight. but i've no idea how or why, i dun have the 'seekrit evidence'.
mircea_popescu: guessing "what the word could mean in context" doesn't mean you read the fucking book ; and "things making sense" to you doesn't mean they exist, or they make sense.
mircea_popescu: the mechanism at issue is this god forsaken bit of americana tardism where recognition = knowledge. ☟︎
trinque: aha, agency does not reside in the NYT, Harvard, etc
mircea_popescu: if i go to some idiot boys whose bodies outgrew their minds and both of these their testicles and tell them stories about women, the government and blabla, that they "form an idea" of what i said has no bearing on anything. not on women ; not on government ; and not even on ideas.
mircea_popescu: not even as far as evolution. if i go to a starving village and feed them sushi and tell them sushi is the best meal there is, their dutiful repeating of this does not even constitute an opinion.
asciilifeform: phf: you touched it earlier today in that cafe.
phf: is that sort of like "evolution" being an emergent behavior, so doesn't actually "exist" as an object, likewise asciilifeform is naming processes described in manufacturing consent "cathedral" and claiming that i can go touch it
BingoBoingo: hanbot: ty. "total lack of fear" is part of inner peace that comes from the Big Book. page 83 paragraph beginning at the bottom of the page features a description
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it counts for something. it doesn't count for what you thought it counted - because there is such a thing as unhomogenous medium.
asciilifeform: where, in this model, is the moon ?
mircea_popescu: trinque importantly - powerless. that the algae swing with the tide doth not mean anything about the algae being the moon.
asciilifeform: i watched it, alive. this apparently counts for nothing, whatever.
mircea_popescu: you know what you ate. that.
mircea_popescu: i'm not going to entertain the "plox state our own delusion to us, that we may pretend it wasn't it".
mircea_popescu: in the sense in which it was presented, and in the sense in which you misrepresented it to yourself throughout the past half decade.
trinque: is this a cultural thing? asciilifeform sees same behavior among many, assumes there must be command/control taking place?
asciilifeform: u.s. nomenklatura is every bit as homogeneous as the other one were.
asciilifeform: and in what sense 'was never a thing' ? original 'cathedral' referred to set of folx who all did the right 'internships', 'ivy' schools, etc. consensus 'reality'.
asciilifeform: the shilling for clitler is ~100% consistent across the 'mainstream' organs.
mircea_popescu: but it was never a thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "cathedral" never had any consistency outside of the pointless drivel of some redditard or other. apparently readily swallowed as fact by a certain demographic.
hanbot: BingoBoingo diana_coman mircea_popescu "right mess" indeed lol. anyway, i appreciated bb's story on account of its total lack of fear or restraint, and diana's for its jabs, particularly the spellchecker. i'll be naming myself though, on the simple criteria of having liked it best. as far as second and third places go i'll name bb second and diana third, for no other reason than to see all possible positions expressed. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: woman's got a week or so left of free range time, that's it.
mircea_popescu: lose ? the notion that clinton is walking away from this election seems the height of naivity.
asciilifeform: wonder what happened to the allegedly desaparecido folx.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/lshvu << from same rag. 'preventive mop-up' of 'oathkeeper' types in progress.
asciilifeform: trinque: hangouts designed to make the 'race' 'look close'.
asciilifeform: and what, he wins, sends nyt, wsj, etc. 'cathedral' to börgemoor work camp ? can dream.
trinque: if clitler were the chosen one, where's the leak of trump's tax returns, or w/e else.
BingoBoingo: And seriously Trump united KGB and FBI in harmony.
trinque: why? Trump's going to usher in "NSA is our hero"
asciilifeform: i am not at all sold on the notion that usa is having something like an actual election, of the kind clitler might lose.
trinque: Trump administration will just say the pardon didn't apply to X, neener
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No need for new jails. Obama will pardon the crack epidemic on his way out.
asciilifeform: did martians land and build this jail, i must've missed
mircea_popescu: funny reversal of the "mp is headed to jail" meme. turns out... the entire usg goes there first ? WHO COULD HAVE... predicted.
mircea_popescu: should be funny to watch a few thousand old men and women toil to death in the southern deserts.
mircea_popescu: contrary to popular belief, mexico WILL pay for the wall if the grunts doing the hand labour in chain gangs will be hillary, reid and friends.
mircea_popescu: pretty much everyone anyone ever heard the name of involved in blue politics can go to jail starting tomorrow and stay there for the rest of the century, there's enough paperwork to cover it.
mircea_popescu: anyway. other than end of gop, trump victory likely will also be end of democratic party.
BingoBoingo: Further lol at the polls http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/il/illinois_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6140.html
asciilifeform: (for non-u.s. inmates -- clitler owns state of md, the election in no sense 'counts' there.)
trinque drums on table in anticipation for $holidaysurprise
asciilifeform: nfi, i personally will be holding one in hands for the first time
mircea_popescu: i meant re the paper ballots.